Thib Gets Ripped

Coach,
Can you tell me more about your visit in France ? Do you know the time and place ?
Merci.

[quote]zagro wrote:
Coach,
Can you tell me more about your visit in France ? Do you know the time and place ?
Merci.[/quote]

Not yet. I’ll keep you guys posted on that.

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
zagro wrote:
Coach,
Can you tell me more about your visit in France ? Do you know the time and place ?
Merci.

Not yet. I’ll keep you guys posted on that.[/quote]

Cool ! Thanks for the quick answer.

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Lots of potential there as those big Maories are simply huge and freaky strong. I’ll have to go again in September for their final prep.
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Ok I am not trying to be rude or anything but Here in Australia we always called native New Zealanders Maories (since that’s what they call themselves). I was surprised that you referred to guys from Tahiti as Maories as well… Is this a name they give themselves or what?

Again I am not being rude just curious because all the Maories I know are big strong guys… really strong and massive, built lick a brick shit house.

[quote]Simon Forsyth wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Lots of potential there as those big Maories are simply huge and freaky strong. I’ll have to go again in September for their final prep.

Ok I am not trying to be rude or anything but Here in Australia we always called native New Zealanders Maories (since that’s what they call themselves). I was surprised that you referred to guys from Tahiti as Maories as well… Is this a name they give themselves or what?

Again I am not being rude just curious because all the Maories I know are big strong guys… really strong and massive, built lick a brick shit house. [/quote]

Well, I don’t think that they call themselves that. It’s more of an ‘‘origin’’ things. They are both of polynesian decent. They are the same people (same as Samoans too). Maori might be the name exclusive to New Zealanders, I don’t know! All I know is that they are huge, strong and have lots of tattoos :slight_smile:

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Basically I’m shooting for consuming as little saturated fats as possible.
.[/quote]

Does this help with fat loss?

[quote]ovalpline wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Basically I’m shooting for consuming as little saturated fats as possible.
.

Does this help with fat loss?

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It helps with not being dead.

You know, health is important too!

That having been said, the ratio of good essential fat to ‘‘bad’’ fats will affect fat loss, mainly by improving insulin sensitivity.

Interesting study about GABA when it comes to boosting growth hormone production:

Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2007 Dec 4 [Epub ahead of print]Links
Growth Hormone Isoform Responses to GABA Ingestion at Rest and after Exercise.

Powers ME, Yarrow JF, McCoy SC, Borst SE.
1Division of Athletic Training, Shenendoah University, Winchester, VA; 2Department of Applied Physiology and Kinesiology, Center for Exercise Science, University of Florida, Gainesville, FL; and 3Geriatric Research Education and Clinical Center, VA Medical Center, Gainesville, FL.
Oral administration of the amino acid/inhibitory neurotransmitter gamma aminobutyric acid (GABA) reportedly elevates resting serum growth hormone (GH) concentrations. PURPOSE:: To test the hypothesis that GABA ingestion stimulates immunoreactive GH (irGH) and immunofunctional GH (ifGH) release at rest and that GABA augments the resistance exercise-induced irGH/ifGH responses. METHODS:: Eleven resistance-trained men (18-30 yr) participated in this randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, crossover study. During each experimental bout, participants ingested either 3 g of GABA or sucrose placebo (P), followed either by resting or resistance exercise sessions. Fasting venous blood samples were acquired immediately before and at 15, 30, 45, 60, 75, and 90 min after GABA or P ingestion and were assayed for irGH and ifGH. RESULTS:: At rest, GABA ingestion elevated both irGH and ifGH compared with placebo. Specifically, peak concentrations of both hormones were elevated by about 400%, and the area under the curve (AUC) was elevated by about 375% (P < 0.05). Resistance exercise (EX-P) elevated time-point (15-60 min) irGH and ifGH concentrations compared with rest (P < 0.05). The combination of GABA and resistance exercise (EX-GABA) also elevated the peak, AUC, and the 15- to 60-min time-point irGH and ifGH responses compared with resting conditions (P < 0.05). Additionally, 200% greater irGH (P < 0.01) and 175% greater ifGH (P < 0.05) concentrations were observed in the EX-GABA than in the EX-P condition, 30 min after ingestion. GABA ingestion did not alter the irGH to ifGH ratio, and, under all conditions, ifGH represented approximately 50% of irGH. CONCLUSIONS:: Our data indicate that ingested GABA elevates resting and postexercise irGH and ifGH concentrations. The extent to which irGH/ifGH secretion contributes to skeletal muscle hypertrophy is unknown, although augmenting the postexercise irGH/ifGH response may improve resistance training-induced muscular adaptations.

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Interesting study about GABA when it comes to boosting growth hormone production:

Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2007 Dec 4 [Epub ahead of print]Links
Growth Hormone Isoform Responses to GABA Ingestion at Rest and after Exercise.

Powers ME, Yarrow JF, McCoy SC, Borst SE.
1Division of Athletic Training, Shenendoah University, Winchester, VA; 2Department of Applied Physiology and Kinesiology, Center for Exercise Science, University of Florida, Gainesville, FL; and 3Geriatric Research Education and Clinical Center, VA Medical Center, Gainesville, FL.
Oral administration of the amino acid/inhibitory neurotransmitter gamma aminobutyric acid (GABA) reportedly elevates resting serum growth hormone (GH) concentrations. PURPOSE:: To test the hypothesis that GABA ingestion stimulates immunoreactive GH (irGH) and immunofunctional GH (ifGH) release at rest and that GABA augments the resistance exercise-induced irGH/ifGH responses. METHODS:: Eleven resistance-trained men (18-30 yr) participated in this randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, crossover study. During each experimental bout, participants ingested either 3 g of GABA or sucrose placebo (P), followed either by resting or resistance exercise sessions. Fasting venous blood samples were acquired immediately before and at 15, 30, 45, 60, 75, and 90 min after GABA or P ingestion and were assayed for irGH and ifGH. RESULTS:: At rest, GABA ingestion elevated both irGH and ifGH compared with placebo. Specifically, peak concentrations of both hormones were elevated by about 400%, and the area under the curve (AUC) was elevated by about 375% (P < 0.05). Resistance exercise (EX-P) elevated time-point (15-60 min) irGH and ifGH concentrations compared with rest (P < 0.05). The combination of GABA and resistance exercise (EX-GABA) also elevated the peak, AUC, and the 15- to 60-min time-point irGH and ifGH responses compared with resting conditions (P < 0.05). Additionally, 200% greater irGH (P < 0.01) and 175% greater ifGH (P < 0.05) concentrations were observed in the EX-GABA than in the EX-P condition, 30 min after ingestion. GABA ingestion did not alter the irGH to ifGH ratio, and, under all conditions, ifGH represented approximately 50% of irGH. CONCLUSIONS:: Our data indicate that ingested GABA elevates resting and postexercise irGH and ifGH concentrations. The extent to which irGH/ifGH secretion contributes to skeletal muscle hypertrophy is unknown, although augmenting the postexercise irGH/ifGH response may improve resistance training-induced muscular adaptations.[/quote]

WOW CT that made my eyes bleed a bit. Informative as always.
Good luck with your cut and wedding! Is there an invitation we T-Nation guys can download :stuck_out_tongue:

I thought you were anti-estrogen. Oh well, congratulations anyway! Who is the lucky girl? Have you posted her before?

Thib,

24 weeks seems to be a long time to diet down and it is very stressful on the body to maintain low body fat levels. Considering the 6 week estimate why not double it and try to get where you want to be at 10 weeks?

[quote]chiquita wrote:
Have you posted her before?
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HAHAHA! That just sounds naughty! Anyway, I’m not to trying to derail Thibs thread. Congratulations Coach and good luck with all you have planned.

[quote]viking44 wrote:
Thib,

24 weeks seems to be a long time to diet down and it is very stressful on the body to maintain low body fat levels. Considering the 6 week estimate why not double it and try to get where you want to be at 10 weeks?[/quote]

I’m not saying that I will take 24 weeks to get ripped. For all I know in 6 weeks I’ll be in contest shape. If that happens I’ll simply manipulate my nutrients intake to gain some muscle while maintaining my degree of leanness.

I do very well on a low-carb diet (I once spent 18 months without carbs). And there is no reason why the body cannot stay healthy at around 5-6% body fat. Maintaining 3% is very hard on the system, but staying within 2 weeks of a contest shape is doable. It’s not so much the fact that you are staying lean that constitutes a stress on the body, but rather:

  1. The lack of essential nutrients.
  2. Spending too much time in a caloric deficit (either due to too much activity and/or too little calories).
  3. Trying to stay at a level of bodyfat that is too low to be healthy.

No.1 wont be a problem since my diet provides all the necessary amino acids and healthy fatty acids to function optimally (there is no such thing as an ''essential carbohydrate).

No.2 wont be problem either since when I reach my desired level of leanness I can always reduce the caloric deficit I’m on (I have held a nutrition journal for the past 4 years and know exactly how much nutrients/calories I need to maintain, lose or gain).

No.3 A level too low to be healthy is either when you don’t even have the “survival” amount of fat needed in your body (fat protecting the organs, in the bone marrow and brain)… this is why maintaining 3% is not healthy… 5-6% is not a problem.

A level that is too low might also be when you are trying to maintain your body fat levels much lower than your natural set point. For example, maintaining 6% body fat year round is stressful for someone for whom 15% is the natural set point. But since I’ve been between 6 and 10% for 3-4 years, 5-6% doesn’t represent a physiological stress.

I could have spent 10 more week trying to add more size, then diet down. The problem with that is that I want to compete as a lightheavy (I know several of the heavies competing and it would me next to impossible to make a top 3 and qualify for the nationals since most of these guys would out weight me by 30-40lbs…). At my current level of muscle mass, it will already be hard to squeeze into the lightheavies (198lbs), so trying to add even more size doesn’t make much sense.

[quote]chiquita wrote:
I thought you were anti-estrogen. Oh well, congratulations anyway! Who is the lucky girl? Have you posted her before? [/quote]

No, she is a “new one.” In my articles I use pics of my former girlfriend, who was a competitive bodybuilder.

Genevieve (let’s say Genny since those who speak English have a hard time saying her name) is more of an overall fitness person who competed in gymnastics for years.

Hi Coach,

Regarding your sleep stack, I’m wondering your thoughts on melatonin?
thanks for your time.

[quote]downwardog wrote:
Hi Coach,

Regarding your sleep stack, I’m wondering your thoughts on melatonin?
thanks for your time.[/quote]

I answered this in “The Thib Zone” a few hours ago.

Melatonin can be used from time to time, but it shouldn’t be abused or relied on more than once or twice a week.

It can lead to morning grogginess as well as a bad mood, loss of motivation, and chronic fatigue if abused. Of course, all of these can negatively impact the quality of your workouts. There is also some evidence than long-term use will lead to a decrease in libido and possibly a reduction in testosterone production.

Very nice, Thib. Seems like you have lots of great things in store. Good luck!

Sorry, just two other questions.

  1. What is your peri-workout regimen? Pre and during workout? Are you taking any additional BCAA’s and whey?

  2. Are you taking a fiber supplement? It looks like the greens supplement is your only carb/vegetable source. I’m planning my own shred beginning February 15. I’ve restricted carbs to 50g a day, all coming from vegetables. But I’ve never done a ketogenic diet. I’m considering it this time, however. I just have a few concerns.

Thanks!

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
ovalpline wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Basically I’m shooting for consuming as little saturated fats as possible.
.

Does this help with fat loss?

It helps with not being dead.

You know, health is important too!

That having been said, the ratio of good essential fat to ‘‘bad’’ fats will affect fat loss, mainly by improving insulin sensitivity.[/quote]

LOL! Thanks, CT.

Hi CT, what´s the ratio of good/bad fats you use or recommend when diet down ?