Hey CT,
Are you doing any cardio during the diet?
Hey CT,
I know back in the day when you were heavier, what kind of diet did you use to trasform your body.
Have you always used the ketogenic diet when dieting.
Does Kentogenic diet work for everyone or only certain bodytypes.
At what point do you now when your in a ketogenic state. Also what sort of transition diet did you use, as you get into your precontest diet?
Thanks CT
[quote]scheung wrote:
Hey CT,
I know back in the day when you were heavier, what kind of diet did you use to trasform your body.
[/quote]
The old ‘anabolic diet’ by DiPasquale (5 days keto, 2 days carb-up), mostly.
[quote]scheung wrote:
Have you always used the ketogenic diet when dieting.
[/quote]
Pretty much ,yes.
[quote]scheung wrote:
Does Kentogenic diet work for everyone or only certain bodytypes.
[/quote]
It will work for everyone willing to put in the effort and who is able to avoid falling off the wagon.
[quote]scheung wrote:
At what point do you now when your in a ketogenic state.
[/quote]
You can use ketostic, but they are inaccurate as they only measure the ketones in your urine, i.e. those you don’t use. If you use all the produced ketones for energy, you will not register as in a ketogenic state even if you are.
The only way to know, is that you are feeling psychologically good and have normal energy levels despite not consuming carbs.
[quote]scheung wrote:
Also what sort of transition diet did you use, as you get into your precontest diet?
Thanks CT [/quote]
None. Caloric intake (fat intake) might be slowly decreased and activity level (cardio is increased).
[quote]scheung wrote:
Hey CT,
Are you doing any cardio during the diet? [/quote]
Not right now.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
scheung wrote:
Also what sort of transition diet did you use, as you get into your precontest diet?
Thanks CT
None. Caloric intake (fat intake) might be slowly decreased and activity level (cardio is increased).
[/quote]
So, if I start to plateau or fat loss slows, fat is the macronutrient I should decrease? And increase cardio? I’m using this to get to 6%. Currently around 10%. Very happy with it so far!
Hey CT thanks for answering my question! But i got some more,
Alright since your on your diet, you have one cheat meal a week, are you worried about not being in a ketogenic state after that meal, or does that meal not effect your ketones being use primarily as energy.
Also about old ‘anabolic diet’ by DiPasqual, is there a book out or numerous article online on how to follow that
thanks again
[quote]scheung wrote:
Hey CT thanks for answering my question! But i got some more,
Alright since your on your diet, you have one cheat meal a week, are you worried about not being in a ketogenic state after that meal, or does that meal not effect your ketones being use primarily as energy.
[/quote]
Okay, first of all it’s not really a ‘cheat meal’… as I will rarely eat crap. It’s more of a higher carbs meal. It normally contains 100-150g of clean carbs.
YES it will take you out of a ketogenic state. But since it’s only ONE meal (compared to two full days of high carbs for the Anabolic Diet and the Bodyopus diet) it is possible reach ketosis again within around 8-12 hours. I have my carbs meal as the last meal of a Sunday and train Monday morning. But Monday post-workout I’m normally back in ketosis.
With a traditional cyclical ketogenic diet like the AD and bodyopus it can take as long as 3 days to re-establish ketosis.
[quote]scheung wrote:
Also about old ‘anabolic diet’ by DiPasqual, is there a book out or numerous article online on how to follow that
thanks again [/quote]
Have you tried that brand new internet option called ‘‘Google’’ and searching for Anabolic Diet Mauro DiPasquale? Or Bodyopus Dan Duchaine?
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
scheung wrote:
Also what sort of transition diet did you use, as you get into your precontest diet?
Thanks CT
None. Caloric intake (fat intake) might be slowly decreased and activity level (cardio is increased).
So, if I start to plateau or fat loss slows, fat is the macronutrient I should decrease? And increase cardio? I’m using this to get to 6%. Currently around 10%. Very happy with it so far![/quote]
Ok, first of all people are way to anxious to modify diet and activity levels when fat loss slows down. OF COURSE IT WILL SLOW DOWN! It is impossible to maintain the same rate of fat loss for an entire diet. People have unrealistic expectations. Sure you can lose 4-5lbs of mostly fat per week when you are around 20% body fat (actually you can even lose more than that). As you reach 10-12% you should be happy with a 2-3lbs loss of fat per week (make that ectatic) and when you drop below 10% you can expect a 1-2lbs loss per week or per TWO weeks.
The lower your body fat is; the more ‘‘defense mechanisms’’ your body will initiate to prevent fat loss.
YES at some point, to continue losing fat you will need to adjust either your energetic intake or your activity level. But peoples often freak out because they ‘only’ lose 2lbs in a week while they are used to losing 4-5lbs.
To me, adjustments must be made only when fat loss STOPS or is too slow for the individual’s body fat level. For example if you are 25% body fat then losing only 1lbs per week is not normal. But losing 1-2lbs per week if you are 12% is not unusual.
Making changes too soon or being too drastic in your changes can lead to muscle loss and an even faster halt in fat loss.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
scheung wrote:
Also what sort of transition diet did you use, as you get into your precontest diet?
Thanks CT
None. Caloric intake (fat intake) might be slowly decreased and activity level (cardio is increased).
So, if I start to plateau or fat loss slows, fat is the macronutrient I should decrease? And increase cardio? I’m using this to get to 6%. Currently around 10%. Very happy with it so far!
Ok, first of all people are way to anxious to modify diet and activity levels when fat loss slows down. OF COURSE IT WILL SLOW DOWN! It is impossible to maintain the same rate of fat loss for an entire diet. People have unrealistic expectations. Sure you can lose 4-5lbs of mostly fat per week when you are around 20% body fat (actually you can even lose more than that). As you reach 10-12% you should be happy with a 2-3lbs loss of fat per week (make that ectatic) and when you drop below 10% you can expect a 1-2lbs loss per week or per TWO weeks.
The lower your body fat is; the more ‘‘defense mechanisms’’ your body will initiate to prevent fat loss.
YES at some point, to continue losing fat you will need to adjust either your energetic intake or your activity level. But peoples often freak out because they ‘only’ lose 2lbs in a week while they are used to losing 4-5lbs.
To me, adjustments must be made only when fat loss STOPS or is too slow for the individual’s body fat level. For example if you are 25% body fat then losing only 1lbs per week is not normal. But losing 1-2lbs per week if you are 12% is not unusual.
Making changes too soon or being too drastic in your changes can lead to muscle loss and an even faster halt in fat loss.
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Point taken! I won’t reduce if fat loss merely slows. Just if I truly plateau and am really not losing fat anymore. Thanks!
CT- what is your favorite way to train when you are in a lean mass gaining phase- looking to add as much lean mass as possible? What does your volume/workout split look like?
[quote]skinnymuscles wrote:
CT- what is your favorite way to train when you are in a lean mass gaining phase- looking to add as much lean mass as possible? What does your volume/workout split look like? [/quote]
The best workout is the one you are not doing right now.
In case you have not noticed from my articles, I do not have one style of training… let alone a favorite split or volume scheme. I understand the physiological stimulus from training and have learned to change it depending on how my body is reacting.
Sometimes I will train one muscle/day for 3 weeks, then move on to a push/pull/legs split for 3 weeks or a lower/upper split and sometimes I will even do whole body training.
I really like mirror training when it comes to stimulating growth. Basically you train one way for 3-4 weeks then do the exact opposite for 3-4 weeks.
Hey CT,
I was curious as how you feel about the Targeted Keto Diet(TKD) vs. what you are doing. I know that in TKD you ingest carbs before and after the workouts and keep the carbs low and fats high throughout the remander of the week.
You being a bodybuilder wouldnt you want to at least keep the carb pre/post workout to keep an even more effective training session. I am thinking about using the TKD but i figure that by doing that i will never be in a state of ketosis, therefore not burning fat as fuel. What do you think?
Thanks for the help!!
Hello CT
I noticed you’re an advocate for healthy fats, but would someone (me) that uses saturated fats such as hamburger, cream, steak, butter, cheese in a keto state not lose fat as much as someone that does use healthy fats?
Sure, the fish oils will increase insulin sensitivity, but does it matter if I don’t eat carbs (less than 20g per day). As far as fish oils reducing inflammation, what does that mean to the hard training athlete I profess to be?
[quote]coloradosteve2 wrote:
Hello CT
I noticed you’re an advocate for healthy fats, but would someone (me) that uses saturated fats such as hamburger, cream, steak, butter, cheese in a keto state not lose fat as much as someone that does use healthy fats?
Sure, the fish oils will increase insulin sensitivity, but does it matter if I don’t eat carbs (less than 20g per day). As far as fish oils reducing inflammation, what does that mean to the hard training athlete I profess to be?[/quote]
Ask this in ‘‘The Thib zone’’ this thread is about my own training and diet.
[quote]scheung wrote:
Hey CT,
I was curious as how you feel about the Targeted Keto Diet(TKD) vs. what you are doing. I know that in TKD you ingest carbs before and after the workouts and keep the carbs low and fats high throughout the remander of the week.
You being a bodybuilder wouldnt you want to at least keep the carb pre/post workout to keep an even more effective training session. I am thinking about using the TKD but i figure that by doing that i will never be in a state of ketosis, therefore not burning fat as fuel. What do you think?
Thanks for the help!![/quote]
Ask this in ‘‘The Thib zone’’
Hey coach,
I’m curious as to what type of training you’ll be doing during your V-Diet. I know Shugart recommends the Waterbury workouts but you’re definitely more advanced and not really a fan of total body training from what I’ve read.
[quote]Qaash wrote:
Hey coach,
I’m curious as to what type of training you’ll be doing during your V-Diet. I know Shugart recommends the Waterbury workouts but you’re definitely more advanced and not really a fan of total body training from what I’ve read.[/quote]
I’m not against total body workouts. Heck, my background is as an Olympic lifter and we train the whole body at every session, sometimes twice a day. I did this for 5 years!
I will be lifting for strength as it’s less draining physically (requires less fuel than higher volume lifting) something along the line of:
DAY 1 Upper body 1
A1. Horizontal push
1 x 6, 1 x 4, 1 x 2, 1 x 6, 1 x 4, 1 x 2
60 sec. rest
A2. Horizontal pull
1 x 6, 1 x 4, 1 x 2, 1 x 6, 1 x 4, 1 x 2
90 sec. rest
B1. Vertical push
1 x 6, 1 x 4, 1 x 2, 1 x 6, 1 x 4, 1 x 2
60 sec. rest
B2. Vertical pull
1 x 6, 1 x 4, 1 x 2, 1 x 6, 1 x 4, 1 x 2
90 sec. rest
DAY 2 Lower body 1
A1. Quads dominant compound
1 x 6, 1 x 4, 1 x 2, 1 x 6, 1 x 4, 1 x 2
90 sec. rest
A2. Hips dominant compound
1 x 6, 1 x 4, 1 x 2, 1 x 6, 1 x 4, 1 x 2
120 sec. rest
B1. Quads dominant isolation
4-5 x 6-8 reps
45 sec. rest
B2. Hamstring isolation
4-5 x 6-8 reps
60 sec. rest
DAY 3 Upper body 2
A1. Semi-vertical push (e.g. incline press)
1 x 6, 1 x 4, 1 x 2, 1 x 6, 1 x 4, 1 x 2
60 sec. rest
A2. Semi-vertical pull (e.g. lat pulldown leaning back)
1 x 6, 1 x 4, 1 x 2, 1 x 6, 1 x 4, 1 x 2
90 sec. rest
B1. Triceps exercise
4-5 x 6-8 reps
45 sec. rest
B2. Biceps exercise
4-5 x 6-8 reps
60 sec. rest
DAY 4 Lower body 2
A1. Quads dominant compound
2 x 8, 2 x 6, 2 x 4
90 sec. rest
A2. Hips dominant compound
2 x 8, 2 x 6, 2 x 4
120 sec. rest
B1. Unilateral quads movement
3-4 x 10-12 reps
60 sec. rest
B2. Unilateral hams movement
3-4 x 8-10 reps
90 sec. rest
The schedule will be 2 days on, 1 day off, 2 days on, 1 day off, repeat.
Not to toot my own horn, but today I had a kickass workout! Without going into too much detail I did 395lbs x 2 reps on the incline press and 315 x 2 reps on the seated shoulder press.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Not to toot my own horn, but today I had a kickass workout! Without going into too much detail I did 395lbs x 2 reps on the incline press and 315 x 2 reps on the seated shoulder press.[/quote]
You sure you’re not tooting a little bit? Just kidding 
I’m glad you’re doing the V-Diet along with me Coach.
[quote]novagreg wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Not to toot my own horn, but today I had a kickass workout! Without going into too much detail I did 395lbs x 2 reps on the incline press and 315 x 2 reps on the seated shoulder press.
You sure you’re not tooting a little bit? Just kidding
I’m glad you’re doing the V-Diet along with me Coach. [/quote]
Ok, just a little!!! But I always sucked at inclines so this is a big victory for me.
Regarding the V-diet… it’s only to save a few bucks for my wedding since I receive my Biotest goodies for free… I’ll save at least 800$ in groceries this next month!