Fuck it…peer pressure worked.
I have to say I agree with this. The youth of today (ppl in their 20s) have no work ethic. The “kids” I work with? They’re barely in the door before they start asking to go home early. And the less they work, the better. I don’t know how they afford to go out and party or pay bills when they hardly work. But, damn! You mess with their day off requests or holiday pay? You better be prepared to get your ass chewed. And heaven forbid they should get in trouble for doing something wrong or having too many absences. Someone even started complaining about how the two guys who work at night never have to work during the day (because they hate it and LIKE working at night) so now they have to work day shifts, which means I get to hear their bitching about working day shifts for 8 hours. And breaks? OMG! We’re now required to take our 2 optional 15 minute breaks b/c that same someone complained about the smokers taking smoke breaks. Thank God she is leaving in early January.
I’m sure I’ll get chewed out for this but here’s a radical idea: Maybe it’s not our fault. As a 23 y/o, I’ve worked my way through a damn good college, while playing football before going on to a Master’s program, I’m really really sick of being criticized by the previous generation saying we’re just the laziest SOBs out there. “Attitude reflects leadership,” is it possible that maybe the fact that SO many parents today are crappy and take no responsibility for their children’s actions, just let their kids do/say as they please, is the reason we have so many “lazy” and entitled kids. And I mean common, it’s not like our parents were the perfect youth.
The “mature adults” are the ones who gave us Woodstock, Free-sex, and massive cocaine and pot use. Adults want to blame kids for being lazy and entitled and whatever, but maybe the blame should go inwards, because I like my friends had responsible parents who punished us for being lazy, took active roles in learning what we were doing and were less interested in being our friends and more in being Parents.
I’m not saying it’s not the individuals responsibility to be a good citizen, because ultimately, it is US who make the decisions, but we have to LEARN from the previous generation how to have integrity and grit if we will be expected to have it.
What a load of utter fuckin shit, your kids will largely be a product of how they are raised, making the people who complain about this stuff largely to blame if there is indeed anything “wrong” with the kids of today
I can’t wait to smother you old people with a pillow while you sleep.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
I can’t wait to smother you old people with a pillow while you sleep.[/quote]
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nah dude, we fill their oxygen tanks with farts.
[quote]knight9009 wrote:
I’m sure I’ll get chewed out for this but here’s a radical idea: Maybe it’s not our fault. As a 23 y/o, I’ve worked my way through a damn good college, while playing football before going on to a Master’s program, I’m really really sick of being criticized by the previous generation saying we’re just the laziest SOBs out there. “Attitude reflects leadership,” is it possible that maybe the fact that SO many parents today are crappy and take no responsibility for their children’s actions, just let their kids do/say as they please, is the reason we have so many “lazy” and entitled kids. And I mean common, it’s not like our parents were the perfect youth.
The “mature adults” are the ones who gave us Woodstock, Free-sex, and massive cocaine and pot use. Adults want to blame kids for being lazy and entitled and whatever, but maybe the blame should go inwards, because I like my friends had responsible parents who punished us for being lazy, took active roles in learning what we were doing and were less interested in being our friends and more in being Parents.
I’m not saying it’s not the individuals responsibility to be a good citizen, because ultimately, it is US who make the decisions, but we have to LEARN from the previous generation how to have integrity and grit if we will be expected to have it. [/quote]
Oh, I know it’s the parents’ fault. I work at a hotel and last year we had a ginger bread house, roped off with stanchions and signs that said “DO NOT TOUCH” and of course little kids would get under the ropes and we would tell them they had to get back and not touch the ginger bread house, and you know what the parents said? They said “oh, he’s fine, don’t worry.” WTF? Can you not read? “DO NOT TOUCH” Also, the ropes are a BARRIER. They’re there for a reason. I love the parents whose kids are acting up and we tell them to control their kids and their response is “don’t tell me how to parent my kids.” Well, we wouldn’t have to if you KNEW how to parent your kids! Most of the parents of little kids nowadays are of my generation and it’s horrible. When did kids become in charge? When did “parent” become another word for “friend”? I agree with you, your parents aren’t your friends, they’re your parents. I wish adults would realize THEY ARE IN CHARGE.
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
I can’t wait to smother you old people with a pillow while you sleep.[/quote]
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nah dude, we fill their oxygen tanks with farts.[/quote]
Nah, I’m gonna kill them the old fashioned way. But you do whatever makes you feel good.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
I can’t wait to smother you old people with a pillow while you sleep.[/quote]
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nah dude, we fill their oxygen tanks with farts.[/quote]
Nah, I’m gonna kill them the old fashioned way. But you do whatever makes you feel good.[/quote]
dude, you know what kind of evil that will entail? UNHOLY KNIGHT!!
I dont believe in any generalisation.
[quote]knight9009 wrote:
I’m sure I’ll get chewed out for this but here’s a radical idea: Maybe it’s not our fault. As a 23 y/o, I’ve worked my way through a damn good college, while playing football before going on to a Master’s program, I’m really really sick of being criticized by the previous generation saying we’re just the laziest SOBs out there. “Attitude reflects leadership,” is it possible that maybe the fact that SO many parents today are crappy and take no responsibility for their children’s actions, just let their kids do/say as they please, is the reason we have so many “lazy” and entitled kids. And I mean common, it’s not like our parents were the perfect youth.
The “mature adults” are the ones who gave us Woodstock, Free-sex, and massive cocaine and pot use. Adults want to blame kids for being lazy and entitled and whatever, but maybe the blame should go inwards, because I like my friends had responsible parents who punished us for being lazy, took active roles in learning what we were doing and were less interested in being our friends and more in being Parents.
I’m not saying it’s not the individuals responsibility to be a good citizen, because ultimately, it is US who make the decisions, but we have to LEARN from the previous generation how to have integrity and grit if we will be expected to have it. [/quote]
-I agree
[quote]ActionJackson wrote:
I am speaking in generalizations here but, here is what I see in the youth of today:
ENTITLEMENT-the youth of today believe that it is their right to do what they want, when they want, without regard for others. They don’t think they need to work hard to get it, wait their turn, or work under people to learn skills. They think their parents and others owe them whatever they want, with no regard for respect, earning their salt, or any ethics in general.
LACK OF DESIRE FOR ACHIEVEMENT-they couldn’t care less if they do their best, or if they ever do anything at all. There are also no consequences to this apathy, especially at school, so their behavior is reinforced on a daily basis.
LACK OF ATTACHMENT TO OTHER HUMANS-the youth of today float in and out of everything, quit jobs/teams/activities without giving notice or thought to how it affects others. They have never had to face another and ask him/her on a date and feel a chance of rejection, instead they text message 40 people who they “met” on the internet and the first response is their date for Friday night…going with that they are incredibly casual about forming any attachment to this person as they know they can discard and replace them with the greatest of ease. If you doubt their lack of attachment to other humans…try taking away their phone, or telling them they can’t text message while at work…they are addicted to the device and the ease of saying anything to anyone via text that they would NEVER say to their face. Many kids would rather be confined to the house without being able to see others than lose their cell phone…I can’t imagine choosing a phone over freedom to go do things and be with friends.
Any other opinions? [/quote]
This is the same thing my dad said and my the same thing my grandfather told my dad. So apparently nothing really changes.
Being a teacher, I can tell you that far more kids care about their grades than what you’re saying.
I’m going to assume when you were a teenager that you worked extra hours without being asked and never tried to get out early? I’m also going to assume you did a bunch of extra tasks not expected to when you were working at those wonderful fast food places as a teenager.
I remember bartending and waiting tables while going through college. I had student loans and grants and tried to work as less as possible because I necessarily didn’t need to make a bunch of money. I mean, why be at work when money is not an issue when you can be doing other things.
As far as punishment goes, the same set of standards are still in place for schools. You do X wrong, you X punishment. If they skate by on Cs, so be it. They’re not doing anything wrong. If this is okay with their parents, then this is what is reinforced as okay. They are meeting the expectations expected of them.
Remember when you were in middle school and you’d ask one of your friends that were a girl to find out if so and so liked you but to be on the down low about it?
I mean…do you really think the majority of adolescents are like what you described? What do you do for a living and how much interraction do you have with teenagers?
i feel the exact same about old people.
ENTITLEMENT- just because you’ve lasted this long doesnt mean you’re the winner and get a prize.
LACK OF DESIRE FOR ACHIEVEMENT- “i’m old now so i have the old person fat thats impossible to get rid of”
LACK OF ATTACHMENT TO OTHER HUMANS- they forget who the hell you are!
i’m just kidding. young people actually are the worst.
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
I dont believe in any generalisation. [/quote]
Though you DID generalize in the Brittany Murphy thread.
I work at a University and I constantly hear female students complaining because the male students don’t want to get “real” jobs and are really lazy.
That might have happened in previous generations but I doubt it.
that’s a really good point! men back in the day not only were more manly, they were more willing to work.
men’s hands are all soft now.
People who complain about one generation being better than another are like racists. A bit more benign, but it’s a similar ignorance and the same kind of pathetic.
At it’s very core, and whether you’ll admit it or not, it’s a bunch of old people deriving some sort of confidence/feeling of superiority by being a part of a group that’s “better”. Look at pretty much any old guy that says this and you’ll see either someone who hasn’t done much for himself at all, or someone whose career/life has stalled.
People with enough individual success don’t bother with this shit, be it racism, radical feminism, this, etc.
That being said, I wouldn’t make this argument for people who say that the country’s going down the shitter. That’s a different sentiment altogether, and the reasons for those feeling could be entirely different.
what a thread, thanks op, you just reminded me that i should get the fuck up off my lazy ass and do something, like hell maybe take school more seriously . . . . . naaaawwww, hell i’ll just go workout . . . . . . after i finish watching this movie, and txting one of my bitches to see if she is still awake at his time, and if she doesnt rrespond i always have time on my agenda for brenda!
brenda is the go to girl, but at times i get tired of her, i like getting different brains every now and then
“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place
of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their
households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They
contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties
at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”
You now who said that? Socrates.
Bitching about kids today is not a new phenomenon.
I know just as many lazy and unmotivated people in their 40’s as in their 20’s.
I think one of life’s scariest moments is whne you realise that you’ve become one of the ‘grown ups’ and that really there’s no big change. Everyone’s personality is pretty much set in their teens/ early 20s.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
I dont believe in any generalisation. [/quote]
Though you DID generalize in the Brittany Murphy thread.
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You got me. I am wrong and I take back what I said
‘‘Every generalisation is dangerous, even this one’’