everyone in the gym isnt a bodybuilder
they all dont need the sweep or teardrop
diamond calves do not matter to everyone
why cant any of you understand this? lol
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
everyone in the gym isnt a bodybuilder
they all dont need the sweep or teardrop
diamond calves do not matter to everyone
why cant any of you understand this? lol
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Yeah, but if you can even start to argue that legs aren’t the biggest muscles that burn the most energy during any workout then that is the problem. Most people that aren’t what you call body builders are there for some sort of weight loss or try to improve some sort of physical activity. every activity starts with strong legs.
[quote]starshooter wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
everyone in the gym isnt a bodybuilder
they all dont need the sweep or teardrop
diamond calves do not matter to everyone
why cant any of you understand this? lol
[/quote]
Yeah, but if you can even start to argue that legs aren’t the biggest muscles that burn the most energy during any workout then that is the problem. Most people that aren’t what you call body builders are there for some sort of weight loss or try to improve some sort of physical activity. every activity starts with strong legs.[/quote]
That’s true.
But, if a person gets what they feel is a good leg work out from sprinting, let them be. If they are in soccer season like a few people here have said…sprinting is no doubt enough.
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]starshooter wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
everyone in the gym isnt a bodybuilder
they all dont need the sweep or teardrop
diamond calves do not matter to everyone
why cant any of you understand this? lol
[/quote]
Yeah, but if you can even start to argue that legs aren’t the biggest muscles that burn the most energy during any workout then that is the problem. Most people that aren’t what you call body builders are there for some sort of weight loss or try to improve some sort of physical activity. every activity starts with strong legs.[/quote]
That’s true.
But, if a person gets what they feel is a good leg work out from sprinting, let them be. If they are in soccer season like a few people here have said…sprinting is no doubt enough.
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enough? i suppose that statement is purely subjective. YES, if he/she is satisfied with being sorta-fast, and sorta-quick, then sure, sprinting may be enough. but if he/she really wants to step up their game, and be on a different level than all the other athletes on the field(that dont train legs), then he/she MUST incorporate leg training.
People can train the way they feel. Training legs is hard. If I didn’t want to be even moderately successful at powerlifting and bodybuilding I would not do it. I will never understand why there’s such a need to put down people for how they train if they do it for the purpose of general recreation and improved health.
[quote]eightohfive wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]starshooter wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
everyone in the gym isnt a bodybuilder
they all dont need the sweep or teardrop
diamond calves do not matter to everyone
why cant any of you understand this? lol
[/quote]
Yeah, but if you can even start to argue that legs aren’t the biggest muscles that burn the most energy during any workout then that is the problem. Most people that aren’t what you call body builders are there for some sort of weight loss or try to improve some sort of physical activity. every activity starts with strong legs.[/quote]
That’s true.
But, if a person gets what they feel is a good leg work out from sprinting, let them be. If they are in soccer season like a few people here have said…sprinting is no doubt enough.
[/quote]
enough? i suppose that statement is purely subjective. YES, if he/she is satisfied with being sorta-fast, and sorta-quick, then sure, sprinting may be enough. but if he/she really wants to step up their game, and be on a different level than all the other athletes on the field(that dont train legs), then he/she MUST incorporate leg training.[/quote]
Subjective^
Statement?
[quote]Samir wrote:
Carles Puyol, FIFA World-cup winning soccer player. He trains legs. [/quote]
Haha, at FIFA World Cup winning player, soccer is a team sport, hence 10 other guys legs won that match also
; )
Had this been MMA or a individual sport that statement would have been better used
; p
Legs get worked to a certain degree no matter what, but we need to keep in mind what the objective is for these athletes, is it to have the biggest legs, developed sweep, diamond cut calves, explosiveness, endurance, agility, etc
They (the athletes) will work on their legs accordingly, as will the trainers that these multi million dollar worth teams provide for the development of their players
[quote]young n wrote:
[quote]Samir wrote:
Carles Puyol, FIFA World-cup winning soccer player. He trains legs. [/quote]
Haha, at FIFA World Cup winning player, soccer is a team sport, hence 10 other guys legs won that match also
; )
Had this been MMA or a individual sport that statement would have been better used
; p
Legs get worked to a certain degree no matter what, but we need to keep in mind what the objective is for these athletes, is it to have the biggest legs, developed sweep, diamond cut calves, explosiveness, endurance, agility, etc
They (the athletes) will work on their legs accordingly, as will the trainers that these multi million dollar worth teams provide for the development of their players[/quote]
i think samir is just trying to prove the point that regardless of whether you are, in this case playing siccer, an athlete or anyone else that training legs is important. and it training legs isn’t just a subjective thing for anyone. there is truck loads of research proving it, from every population sedentary and active
[quote]starshooter wrote:
[quote]young n wrote:
[quote]Samir wrote:
Carles Puyol, FIFA World-cup winning soccer player. He trains legs. [/quote]
Haha, at FIFA World Cup winning player, soccer is a team sport, hence 10 other guys legs won that match also
; )
Had this been MMA or a individual sport that statement would have been better used
; p
Legs get worked to a certain degree no matter what, but we need to keep in mind what the objective is for these athletes, is it to have the biggest legs, developed sweep, diamond cut calves, explosiveness, endurance, agility, etc
They (the athletes) will work on their legs accordingly, as will the trainers that these multi million dollar worth teams provide for the development of their players[/quote]
i think samir is just trying to prove the point that regardless of whether you are, in this case playing siccer, an athlete or anyone else that training legs is important. and it training legs isn’t just a subjective thing for anyone. there is truck loads of research proving it, from every population sedentary and active[/quote]
I agree
These players do train legs, (other than just playing matches)
Somebody might consider training legs to be doing power squats while somebody else might consider it to be sport specific drills
Subjective?
As T-Nations resident semi-pro soccer player I think I should give my 2 cents to this thread.
I agree with Edevus, too much leg work with weights can have a deterimental effect on your game performance. I agree with a cyclical approach. In season reps should be kept around the 8-10 range.
I had followed a bodybuilder like split in the season just gone(see ‘the bird cage’ training log), in which I did legs on thursday and played my game on sunday. There was a couple of incidences where my legs struggled on game day. Next season I will probally lift two-threee times a week, and I am considering doing full body workouts on each day.
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