It was actually road warrior on the screens, not mad max, however I agree. I think it was a subtle reference to the removal of the rorshach bit earlier.
I think they didn’t change the feel of it. The main thing is that they couldn’t spend the screen time building the story of the missing artists and scientists that created the “something is brewing, but what is it?” feeling in the books. Without that undertone, just making it some other monster would have seemed non-sequitur and pointless. Dr. Manhattan at least already had the backstory built up of being powerful enough, and detached enough, that the citizens of the USSR and USA would buy that he nuked them.
I think in the end, the main plot part that suffered for me was why Viedt had to kill the Comedian. They had to move by all of that so fast, that characters like Moloch seemed pointless, almost even confusing.
[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
I guess that makes a little sense (I dont think so, but I’ll grant you that)… But why involve Manhattan? I can see if they didnt want to use the “psychic squids” for whatever reason (really, much more sinister I think)… but why change the feel of it by using Manhattan to blow up multiple cities? He had nothing to do with it in the book. Why not just use some other kind of monster if you feel you must change the ending.
Yes, the moment where Adrian asks Manhattan if he did the right thing in the end, and then he says “nothing ever ends” is devastating to Adrian. Its much more poignant than the way they did it in the movie.[/quote]
[quote]skaz05 wrote:
I would have also thrown down a little train action on her too, I mean if I could make several clones of myself… Shiiiiiiiit.[/quote]
Ahaha that reminds me my gf and I are laying in bed at 2 in the morning just about to fall asleep and I thought of that. I think my exact words were “hey remember when Dr. Manhattan had two of himself with that one chick? I want to see the deleted scene in which he pig roasts that bitch…it’d look like she is impaled on a light saber.” I then started making dolphin noises and almost pooped my pants.
I think the bigger question, that no has yet seemed to address is this.
Who is going to play Dr. Manhattan when Southpark spoofs it?
[quote]BradTGIF wrote:
I think the bigger question, that no has yet seemed to address is this.
Who is going to play Dr. Manhattan when Southpark spoofs it?[/quote]
lol
Maybe Mr. Slave
[quote]GhorigTheBeefy wrote:
Maybe Mr. Slave[/quote]
Might be funnier if it was Cartman.
[quote]AngryVader wrote:
GhorigTheBeefy wrote:
Maybe Mr. Slave
Might be funnier if it was Cartman.[/quote]
BEEFCAKE!!!
[quote]AngryVader wrote:
GhorigTheBeefy wrote:
Maybe Mr. Slave
Might be funnier if it was Cartman.[/quote]
No no no no, Cartman will be Ozymandias. It’ll be like when he was a televangelist.
[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
AngryVader wrote:
GhorigTheBeefy wrote:
Maybe Mr. Slave
Might be funnier if it was Cartman.
No no no no, Cartman will be Ozymandias. It’ll be like when he was a televangelist. [/quote]
I thought The Commedian would be played by Cartman…
[quote]BradTGIF wrote:
Doug Adams wrote:
AngryVader wrote:
GhorigTheBeefy wrote:
Maybe Mr. Slave
Might be funnier if it was Cartman.
No no no no, Cartman will be Ozymandias. It’ll be like when he was a televangelist.
I thought The Commedian would be played by Cartman… [/quote]
Nah, Timmay is The Comedian.
[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
BradTGIF wrote:
Doug Adams wrote:
AngryVader wrote:
GhorigTheBeefy wrote:
Maybe Mr. Slave
Might be funnier if it was Cartman.
No no no no, Cartman will be Ozymandias. It’ll be like when he was a televangelist.
I thought The Commedian would be played by Cartman…
Nah, Timmay is The Comedian.[/quote]
Who should be Rorschach? Jimmy? Tweak or Butters could work, especially when Butters goes to the dark side.
[quote]AngryVader wrote:
Doug Adams wrote:
BradTGIF wrote:
Doug Adams wrote:
AngryVader wrote:
GhorigTheBeefy wrote:
Maybe Mr. Slave
Might be funnier if it was Cartman.
No no no no, Cartman will be Ozymandias. It’ll be like when he was a televangelist.
I thought The Commedian would be played by Cartman…
Nah, Timmay is The Comedian.
Who should be Rorschach? Jimmy? Tweak or Butters could work, especially when Butters goes to the dark side.[/quote]
Tweak is Moloch.
[quote]AngryVader wrote:
Doug Adams wrote:
BradTGIF wrote:
Doug Adams wrote:
AngryVader wrote:
GhorigTheBeefy wrote:
Maybe Mr. Slave
Might be funnier if it was Cartman.
No no no no, Cartman will be Ozymandias. It’ll be like when he was a televangelist.
I thought The Commedian would be played by Cartman…
Nah, Timmay is The Comedian.
Who should be Rorschach? Jimmy? Tweak or Butters could work, especially when Butters goes to the dark side.[/quote]
Kyle. His mom can be like Rorschach’s landlady.
Stan is Night Owl.
Butters is one of the chump scientists who get wasted by Ozy.
Mr. Garrison is Dr. Manhattan
Rorschach’s landlady is the bus driver!
[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
Rorschach’s landlady is the bus driver![/quote]
Got it. And Kyle’s mom can be…well, Rorschach’s mom.
[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
Rorschach’s landlady is the bus driver![/quote]
She died permanently when Cartman turned psychic…
[quote]SSC wrote:
pushmepullme wrote:
Rorschach’s landlady is the bus driver!
She died permanently when Cartman turned psychic…[/quote]
Dammit, this is what I get for taking South Park off the DVR!
[quote]pookie wrote:
pushmepullme wrote:
mahwah wrote:
Going to see it this weekend.
I’ve read that they did leave out one of the side stories (The Black Freighter) but it will be included as a special feature on the DVD.
I can see how that would be confusing and difficult to include.
Alan Moore said that Watchmen used a lot of techniques that only work in comic form. The “story inside a story” that meshes perfectly with the outer story is one of those. I guess another one would be the recurring themes or pictures that spawn all the issues. One issue goes from bright and cheery colored to dark and heavy as the story progresses to strengthen the sense of impending doom.
It’s a very interesting series; one of those rare story where you can still be picking up new stuff on the fifth or sixth read through.
[/quote]
I’ve heard that Snyder acknowledged that Moore created Watchmen to fully exploit the medium of the comic book. Snyder’s approach was to take the story, and structure it in a way that would fully utilize the medium of film, instead. It seems that is exactly what he has done, given the amount of extras he plans to include on the DVD - among those will be a ‘final cut’ of the movie, which will be far longer than the theatrical version.
The Black Freighter subplot will be placed appropriately in the DVD cut, as will (hopefully) many other subplots that were cut for time. It will be interesting to see how close Snyder will get to the GN without having to worry about the running time.
Just as the GN references and subverts a lot of comic book conventions, the movie is supposed to reflect the whole movie superhero genre - the most obvious example is the general re-design of the costumes to resemble those of the movie Batman, etc…
[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
ratm41 wrote:
I read the comic and i think the change in the ending may have been disappointing for the comic geeks like myself but was necessary to make the movie more appealing to the main stream, i mean a bunch of squid aliens might have worked fine in the 80s but for this generation it would have just seemed stupid, my biggest problem was the fact that in the end dr.Manhattan was asked by adrian if he did the right thing in the comic he left Adrian wondering in the movie he said yes
I guess that makes a little sense (I dont think so, but I’ll grant you that)… But why involve Manhattan? I can see if they didnt want to use the “psychic squids” for whatever reason (really, much more sinister I think)… but why change the feel of it by using Manhattan to blow up multiple cities? He had nothing to do with it in the book. Why not just use some other kind of monster if you feel you must change the ending.
Yes, the moment where Adrian asks Manhattan if he did the right thing in the end, and then he says “nothing ever ends” is devastating to Adrian. Its much more poignant than the way they did it in the movie.[/quote]
The only other thing i can see justifying the ending change was that it gave a reason for Manhattan to leave that the person watching the movie would understand but i agree that the ending was better in the comic i was dissapointed in it being changed but at the same time it was a creative twist that gave a different spin on the story