The War on Drugs

Do you mean homosexual activity is being promoted at every turn, or being accepting of homosexual individuals is being promoted at every turn?

The second one is important in my opinion as homosexuals are discriminated against, and many times have less rights than straight individuals.

I don’t think it is necessary to promote any type of sex. People seem to figure out what they like at least most of the time.

You can’t separate the homosexuals from their homosexual activity, just like you can’t separate drug addicts from drug use.

Anyway, this isn’t even a discussion I want to have because I know it will lead nowhere.

I just gave you an example of homosexual couples who do not have sex. It is less common than those who do have sex.

I will not continue any further with this if you don’t want to.

One key point no one has addressed is the rates of overdose will sky rocket. We can’t afford to enable the addicts. It’ll bankrupt us in no time.

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An overdose death seems pretty cheap? These people almost never get social security, medicare (the expensive things).

I guess if the keep overdosing and living it could be expensive.

Lot’s of men get boners from men online. BBers often pay for their competition cycles that way.

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True, but again I think this is mostly with opioids, until that stuff became the big thing around here there wasn’t a big problem with people overdosing regularly from coke or meth.

Also safe injection sites cost a lot of money to operate, and meanwhile the medical system is underfunded and barely functioning a lot of the time. There are times that no ambulances are available at all, in a city of nearly 1 million.

“the city released figures showing that there had been 329 “level zero” incidents in the first eight months of 2019. Level zero means the paramedic service has no ability to transport patients because paramedics are waiting to offload patients at hospitals.”

Is that what they call “affirmative consent”?

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We had a K2 epidemic here. It was surreal. Nearly 100 transports a day for weeks.

Ew. Im not a BB

I am not the one getting a boner from dudes on the internet.

You believed that… ?

Jokes / sarcasm does not work well though text. I was just joking.

I wasn’t. Boooiiinnnggg

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That stuff never caught on over here because there is so much weed around, fortunately. It’s legal too isn’t it? Or at least until they ban whatever substance is in the current version.

Wishful thinking

It was. Sold as “incense” then sprayed with God knows what.

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I used a data service our fund uses to scan the filings for public US & Canadian firms that deal in alcohol and tobacco. Not a single one has mentioned lost revenue, competition, or even “black markets”. But it’s ok, some detective said something.

Well you see… I’ve been involved with certain activities one could call “homosexual” in nature… I was also picked on about certain thoughts I had (that I’d confided within someone) for years (there was a little bit more to this, such as me being autistic/some other drama… but the brunt was over the initial aspect)… This bullying, alongside certain compounding factors made me very, very, very depressed at a young age. I’m not going to talk about the rest of the situation, however just as some no here vehemently disagree with drug legalisation on the basis of personal anecdote, I vehemently oppose homophobia/discriminiation against homosexuality on the basis of personal anecdote.

I’m not gay… it’s a little bit complicated, I certainly prefer women… I think… I’m almost positive… I don’t have much experience, I’ve only had sex once, this was when I was fifteen.

Aside from Belgium/the Netherlands, statistically you’ve actually got a good chance regarding MDMA purity

An alarming study recently came out regarding Aus that I refuse to believe… supposedly 4.2% of kids aged 14-16 here are currently using anabolic steroids… I don’t believe this statistic, very rarely do I see muscled up kids.

If one looks at this report

you’ll notice within the Netherlands over half of all MDMA tablets contained more than 140mg legitimate MDMA. I believe most tablets are between 1-200mg, furthermore

Generally in the Netherlands, MDMA is MDMA… In Australia it most certainly is not. Hence

This is why I’ve never tried MDMA either. But no one is lacing MDMA with fentanyl, opaites etc… it’s almost always a substitute with similar pharmacological effects comparative to MDMA. However sometimes these substitutes (PMMA etc) are far more toxic. Given that pure MDMA is generally safer than alcohol, it creates the argument “lots of kids are using this shit, usage rates aren’t decreasing despite harsher penalties being implemented… should we allow pill testing and/or legalisation”

Well… with opiates, cocaine yes… with MDMA (requiring 10-20mg/kg to overdose at minimum), cannabis, LSD etc if tightly regulated… who is going to overdose? Where are all the addicts going to come from pertaining to substances not particularly liable for inducing addiction?

I’m with you regarding the notion that certain substances such as heroin simply can’t be legalised, societal detriment is too great… but with cannabis, MDMA, psychedelic drugs etc I don’t think the sky will fall. With harder substances I support decriminalisation for personal use, harsh punishment for distribution.

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Really??? I thought one could overdose from meth fairly easily? (adrenergic storm/facillitation of cardiac arrhythmia). Even cocaine if overdosed can induce some serious problems. Fentanyl is the king though when relating to “how easily can I overdose on this”… carfentanyl is worse, but considering you can’t even come into contact with it (bare skin) without dying I don’t think that’d be relevant.

You can STILL buy this crap here if you know where to look… Sold as “incense” not for human consumption… I wonder if many are still stupid enough to use this… cannabis exists and it isn’t killing people, this is.

Even with heroin, you’ve got highly functioning addicts. I see no problem with government programs being implemented tailored to giving addicts (who have tried going through rehab before) a maintenance dosage. Like methadone/suboxone clinics in Aus random drug screenings could be present (although I’d drop cannabis from the screening process). Such a program will dramatically reduce overdosage rates and have been successfully trialled (now implemented) within The Netherlands.

I think public education is a missing factor here, public campaigns using fear tactics/fear mongering amongst the populace don’t work, this isn’t the 1930’s. We need campaigns educating kids and adults alike of the risks associated with say… Cocaine, prescription opiate abuse (this is where it can start… progress to H), benzodiazepine abuse etc… realistic education, not “one pill kills, take that and you’re dead”.

This is what I believe occurred with marijuana. Placed as a schedule I drug, the populace was taught it was incredibly dangerous. Upon trying it, many realised this was bullshit, if marijuana isn’t dangerous, who is to say PCP is etc

Listen, you can buy black market cigarettes here, usually they come from native reserves, some are in packages and are brands not sold in stores while others come in a big ziploc bag. I don’t care what you data service says, if I wanted cheap cigarettes I could go an buy them. You simply don’t know what you are talking about.

Maybe this is all made up too. Maybe the earth is flat.

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