Fair enough. Executions would definitely slow down drug dealers. Can’t argue with that
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I’d be perfectly ok with dismembering drug dealers / traffickers in public. And drivers that text.
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In some places a non-dealer with a couple ounces of weed (in some states I think 1 oz is the cut-off) is considered as having intent to distribute. I would think we would need to change the possession laws around what qty = dealer. This would get messy fast.
We can come up with a reasonable amount. 5 gms = distrubution = Blood Eagle
You should switch to LE in the Philippines.
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Again, there seems to be this notion that people are going to do what they want no matter the consequences. I disbelieve this considering that many people do follow rules, fear consequences, don’t want to ruin their lives and aren’t impulsive. This fits, like, oh… nearly all T-mag posters, which is highly complimenting to say.
Again, in such conversation one tends to talk with people who argue in favor of choices they don’t even make and severely lower their kids chances of making too.
A quick story of how fear worked on me. When I was very young, like at seven to eight years old, I was mesmerized by the NYC graffiti. My mom would schlep me from Northeastern Queens (which has many writers itself) to the Bronx and Manhattan several times a month. I would look at the tons of graffiti on the highways, streets, and even caught some glimpses of the then-fading “train era.” I thought to myself “who are these people, like super heroes or something?” I would see some of the same names in the BX, Manhattan, Queens, and Long Island. I thought I definitely want to be a part of it.
So in 1988, at nine years old (like seriously too young to hold my weight against robbery and assault by other writers in their teens and 20s) I found a can and took a tag. It took me soooo long to write a measly four letters because I kept looking around and was awkward with the can. A second time I attempted a marker tag on a lamppost near my house but couldn’t bring myself to do it.
Fast forward to junior high and I met some writers, even hung out a little. Little did I know as a only a boy that the graffiti scene was filled with violent, confrontational, and anti-social people who not only wrote, but regularly fought, including swarm attacking people, robbed people, did drugs, died early deaths from accidents while writing, etc. I said to myself “I am not cut out for this.” Never again did I attempt to be a part of that scene.
The fear of both legal penalties and scary people, many of whom would gladlyknock someone out or swarm attack one if given some of the sarcasm we see online, worked well. Of the older “retired” writers I know now, truly changed people, all of them Have fought a lot or been attacked or robbed by others, with the scars to show it. Many stopped writing because of increasingly harsh punishment too, including prison sentences.
Fear is a big deterrent.
Probably more satisfying…
Fear is a powerful deterrent. Personally, I just don’t want to be surrounded by drug addled weirdos. I’ve seen enough to know it’s fanciful thinking to think enough users will function in an agrreable way and or at all.
Where will they work ? How will they pay for their addiction / cravings ? Who will raise their kids ? Etc…
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This is exactly what I think. After they wreck themselves enough who will support them and their kids. Hence I ask in these conversations if anyone operates in drug-ridden areas. I assume no one or almost no one in here lives in one.
I do. Been a St Louis city policeman for 11 years. People have NO idea the destrcution and how far it reaches thanks to drugs. These people simply can’t function in a way that’s not detrimental to the rest of us.
They go to the suburbs now to car clout, rob, steal, burglarize.
I don’t want to see a society that’s already increasingly stressed out, lonely, prone to depression,etc… become more degenerate via drugs being legallized.
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Many seem to function just fine with MJ. Have good jobs, don’t spend all of their money on it. One of the smartest guys I have met was a chronic smoker. Got kicked out of 2 universities for low level dealing before I met him at college. Guy graduated above 3.8 gpa in mechanical engineering, and was in really good shape too. Examples of the opposite exist as well. Just making a point that some seem to function well above average even when baked 24/7.
Another question I’ve had on the topic is why should a society adjust itself for the desire for getting high on any drugs by a few, unless we consider drug use some type of human/civil right. I can’t think of one reason a man can’t self actualize because he can’t indulge in any fun he feels like. And I’m not even thinking of more repressive societies unreal has mentioned for comparison. Your acquaintance would’ve been an engineer without weed. And although I don’t know the man, I assume he’s doing just fine.
Another good thing to think about is what kind of precedent we set by legalizing drugs, which has a major cultural effect.
Maybe. he we kinda a dick when not baked. One of the classes I had with him resulted in him getting kicked out after yelling at the professor for being wrong. He was sober that day. It seemed to even him out.
IMO, we should make laws to limit rights in the case that they infringe upon other’s rights. I don’t think we should make laws just upon the feelings of a certain group even if they are the majority.
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Now that weed is legal here I guess I would agree, there is no good excuse to be selling hard drugs. Texting while driving requires and even harsher punishment though, like torture them to the brink of death then nurse them back to health and do it again and again.
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OK, a successful dick, not unusual.
Are you a libertarian?
It could be he was just cranky from being sober too.
Social issues pretty close to libertarian. I think we need a safety net though, so not libertarian. Anti-authoritarian for sure.
A lot of people smoke weed regularly and still live normal lives, and with those who don’t it’s not just because of weed. There are also seemingly normal people who do coke, ecstasy, or other “party drugs” now and then and still manage, although many start out like that and end up addicted. Also there are rich cokeheads in high places, but you need a lot of money to be able to support that.
If it leads to executing some crooked politicians it’s a double win!
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