The Walking Dead Season 5

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[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I started watching this show late and am not familiar with the guy with the staff. Can someone tell me who he is and why Rick seemed surprised when he saw him at the end of the show ?[/quote]

That’s Morgan. He saved Rick’s life at the very beginning.

I could say more, but it would ruin too much for you. Go watch the rest of the episodes. You’ve missed a lot.[/quote]

I enjoyed the episode a lot. Like the wolves as antagonists. Like Morgan.

The timing of Rick doing-what-he-did when Morgan arrived was perfect.
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Like the wolves, but having them running around with no lead in their pencils is a little weird. If they’re really pillaging the fuck out of everything in their path I would think they’d have ammo. It seriously limits their legitimacy as a threat if they don’t.

Maybe they mistook Morgan as an easy target and didn’t think they’d need it? I did like the deception they tried to pull on him though. Reminded me of the raptors in Jurassic Park.[/quote]

I imagine ammo is running low for everyone.

Reminds me why I have a reloading set up and a working knowledge how to make salt peter out of horse piss.[/quote]

I understand that realistically ammo would be low for most, but this show has not been all that realistic when it comes to weaponry. Daryl still has crossbow arrows FFS.

And you’d think if the wolves are raiding and trapping people that they would have accumulated a decent stash.[/quote]

Would it be? According to the way this world was written the virus took hold fast, people died or turned FAST plus they started off in the south (an ammo rich environment)so with all the ammo still in stores and gun shops and now empty police HQ’s, and local ranges, why would anyone left alive from millions to dozens be ammo deficient? I mean the shooting population of the world is now dead the ammo didn’t die with them.
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Plus, if every shot is a headshot, you dont need THAT much.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I started watching this show late and am not familiar with the guy with the staff. Can someone tell me who he is and why Rick seemed surprised when he saw him at the end of the show ?[/quote]

That’s Morgan. He saved Rick’s life at the very beginning.

I could say more, but it would ruin too much for you. Go watch the rest of the episodes. You’ve missed a lot.[/quote]

I enjoyed the episode a lot. Like the wolves as antagonists. Like Morgan.

The timing of Rick doing-what-he-did when Morgan arrived was perfect.
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Like the wolves, but having them running around with no lead in their pencils is a little weird. If they’re really pillaging the fuck out of everything in their path I would think they’d have ammo. It seriously limits their legitimacy as a threat if they don’t.

Maybe they mistook Morgan as an easy target and didn’t think they’d need it? I did like the deception they tried to pull on him though. Reminded me of the raptors in Jurassic Park.[/quote]

I imagine ammo is running low for everyone.

Reminds me why I have a reloading set up and a working knowledge how to make salt peter out of horse piss.[/quote]

I understand that realistically ammo would be low for most, but this show has not been all that realistic when it comes to weaponry. Daryl still has crossbow arrows FFS.

And you’d think if the wolves are raiding and trapping people that they would have accumulated a decent stash.[/quote]

Would it be? According to the way this world was written the virus took hold fast, people died or turned FAST plus they started off in the south (an ammo rich environment)so with all the ammo still in stores and gun shops and now empty police HQ’s, and local ranges, why would anyone left alive from millions to dozens be ammo deficient? I mean the shooting population of the world is now dead the ammo didn’t die with them.
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Plus, if every shot is a headshot, you dont need THAT much. [/quote]

They really do make it out that there is a LOT of walkers though.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I was able to watch a few older episodes from 2010, where Rick and Glenn were trapped inside a store with Daryl’s brother cuffed to a pipe on the roof. They were able to get out, and Rick was reunited with his wife and Carl.

This show is much better than I thought, I do need to binge watch this some weekend.[/quote]
In my opinion the first season is the best one.

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[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

I understand that realistically ammo would be low for most, but this show has not been all that realistic when it comes to weaponry. Daryl still has crossbow arrows FFS.

And you’d think if the wolves are raiding and trapping people that they would have accumulated a decent stash.[/quote]

Would it be? According to the way this world was written the virus took hold fast, people died or turned FAST plus they started off in the south (an ammo rich environment)so with all the ammo still in stores and gun shops and now empty police HQ’s, and local ranges, why would anyone left alive from millions to dozens be ammo deficient? I mean the shooting population of the world is now dead the ammo didn’t die with them.
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I haven’t read the comics so I don’t know how it all started other than what they showed on TWD. This is one of the aspects of Fear the Walking Dead I’m looking forward to the most.

With TWD, at this point they’re a few years post-ZA. I think most of the ammo in a realistic scenario would be either spent or hoarded by now. I can’t see there being any stashes that haven’t been claimed. However, Rick’s group always seemed to have an ample supply, even when they were nomads.

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http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Television_Show_Timeline

This is kind of interesting. According to this, it’s been basically a year and a half since the outbreak.

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[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

I understand that realistically ammo would be low for most, but this show has not been all that realistic when it comes to weaponry. Daryl still has crossbow arrows FFS.

And you’d think if the wolves are raiding and trapping people that they would have accumulated a decent stash.[/quote]

Would it be? According to the way this world was written the virus took hold fast, people died or turned FAST plus they started off in the south (an ammo rich environment)so with all the ammo still in stores and gun shops and now empty police HQ’s, and local ranges, why would anyone left alive from millions to dozens be ammo deficient? I mean the shooting population of the world is now dead the ammo didn’t die with them.
[/quote]

I haven’t read the comics so I don’t know how it all started other than what they showed on TWD. This is one of the aspects of Fear the Walking Dead I’m looking forward to the most.

With TWD, at this point they’re a few years post-ZA. I think most of the ammo in a realistic scenario would be either spent or hoarded by now. I can’t see there being any stashes that haven’t been claimed. However, Rick’s group always seemed to have an ample supply, even when they were nomads.[/quote]

Actually I’m only going off the TV show. I mean Rick was shot and was unconscious. A couple of weeks maybe when everything went to shit. He was still able to walk and was not really dehydrated when he woke so it could not have been that long. When he walked out of the hospital everything had already gone to Sh*t the world was zombified. From Millions to dozens and all the ammo is gone…Seems its more likely that we would have plenty of ammo or we wouldn’t have so many zombies. It just all happened to fast. But hey its TV so the writers are the gods of this world.

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Finally got caught up. I’m glad Gabriel’s cry baby antics are hopefully done now that someone has “forgiven” him. Pretty big emotional swings for the group there at the end. I liked the complete lack of hesitation for Rick to pull the trigger- didn’t even flinch.

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[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

I understand that realistically ammo would be low for most, but this show has not been all that realistic when it comes to weaponry. Daryl still has crossbow arrows FFS.

And you’d think if the wolves are raiding and trapping people that they would have accumulated a decent stash.[/quote]

Would it be? According to the way this world was written the virus took hold fast, people died or turned FAST plus they started off in the south (an ammo rich environment)so with all the ammo still in stores and gun shops and now empty police HQ’s, and local ranges, why would anyone left alive from millions to dozens be ammo deficient? I mean the shooting population of the world is now dead the ammo didn’t die with them.
[/quote]

I haven’t read the comics so I don’t know how it all started other than what they showed on TWD. This is one of the aspects of Fear the Walking Dead I’m looking forward to the most.

With TWD, at this point they’re a few years post-ZA. I think most of the ammo in a realistic scenario would be either spent or hoarded by now. I can’t see there being any stashes that haven’t been claimed. However, Rick’s group always seemed to have an ample supply, even when they were nomads.[/quote]

Actually I’m only going off the TV show. I mean Rick was shot and was unconscious. A couple of weeks maybe when everything went to shit. He was still able to walk and was not really dehydrated when he woke so it could not have been that long. When he walked out of the hospital everything had already gone to Sh*t the world was zombified. From Millions to dozens and all the ammo is gone…Seems its more likely that we would have plenty of ammo or we wouldn’t have so many zombies. It just all happened to fast. But hey its TV so the writers are the gods of this world.
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My understanding is that many, many people were not resistant to the plague, died, and turned into zombies right off the bat.

It’s about a 5,000 walkers to 1 human ratio.

I am kind of an extreme weapon nut, and have maybe 50,000 rounds of various kinds of ammo at home/work/car.

And without me to open safes or various hidey holes, I have probably 2,000 that someone could find easily.

Going by ammo shot in Afghanistan to people shot, it take 250,000 rounds to kill one bad guy (because of the use of suppressive fire, which eats ammo).

I would say, it would realistically take 3 rounds to kill one zombie because they don’t take cover and there would be no suppressive fire, but head shots are a lot harder than you think.

So, yeah, I would see an ammo shortage quickly, even with people like me to supply ammo.

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Agreed, however I will say that this season they have moved to more use of blunt weapons and knife kills for zombies.

Saving ammo for the living.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Agreed, however I will say that this season they have moved to more use of blunt weapons and knife kills for zombies.

Saving ammo for the living. [/quote]

that and loud noises tend to bring more zombies where blunt head trauma or machetes (the “ch” pronounced like in “chair” … machete)/sharp edged tools are quieter and possibly more efficient when dealing with a moderate group of zombies AND knowing what the hell you’re doing.

One of the things I appreciate about the show is as they’ve lived in the apocalypse longer they’re more adapt to using hand to hand techniques first and fire arms as a second or last resort or as to distract.

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Still waiting to see someone or a group using spears, shields, and axes. Especially outside when there is room to maneuver. Yes, getting medieval.

But yeah, this was the most satisfying ending to date, there was really no cliff hanger.

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just a taste of what to expect next season w/ the Wolves

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[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

I understand that realistically ammo would be low for most, but this show has not been all that realistic when it comes to weaponry. Daryl still has crossbow arrows FFS.

And you’d think if the wolves are raiding and trapping people that they would have accumulated a decent stash.[/quote]

Would it be? According to the way this world was written the virus took hold fast, people died or turned FAST plus they started off in the south (an ammo rich environment)so with all the ammo still in stores and gun shops and now empty police HQ’s, and local ranges, why would anyone left alive from millions to dozens be ammo deficient? I mean the shooting population of the world is now dead the ammo didn’t die with them.
[/quote]

I haven’t read the comics so I don’t know how it all started other than what they showed on TWD. This is one of the aspects of Fear the Walking Dead I’m looking forward to the most.

With TWD, at this point they’re a few years post-ZA. I think most of the ammo in a realistic scenario would be either spent or hoarded by now. I can’t see there being any stashes that haven’t been claimed. However, Rick’s group always seemed to have an ample supply, even when they were nomads.[/quote]

Actually I’m only going off the TV show. I mean Rick was shot and was unconscious. A couple of weeks maybe when everything went to shit. He was still able to walk and was not really dehydrated when he woke so it could not have been that long. When he walked out of the hospital everything had already gone to Sh*t the world was zombified. From Millions to dozens and all the ammo is gone…Seems its more likely that we would have plenty of ammo or we wouldn’t have so many zombies. It just all happened to fast. But hey its TV so the writers are the gods of this world.
[/quote]

My understanding is that many, many people were not resistant to the plague, died, and turned into zombies right off the bat.

It’s about a 5,000 walkers to 1 human ratio.

I am kind of an extreme weapon nut, and have maybe 50,000 rounds of various kinds of ammo at home/work/car.

And without me to open safes or various hidey holes, I have probably 2,000 that someone could find easily.

Going by ammo shot in Afghanistan to people shot, it take 250,000 rounds to kill one bad guy (because of the use of suppressive fire, which eats ammo).

I would say, it would realistically take 3 rounds to kill one zombie because they don’t take cover and there would be no suppressive fire, but head shots are a lot harder than you think.

So, yeah, I would see an ammo shortage quickly, even with people like me to supply ammo.[/quote]

But who was doing the shooting? The police station Rick went to was full of ammo the first season, and the town was overtaken by Zombies so it does not seem anyone had time to react with firepower. A virus that moved that fast that only left dozens alive to flee the towns and run to the hills. Or at least that is the world painted by writers. I would however be curious to see what happened to any national guard units on duty at the time of the outbreak. That would be a scene I would love to see the writers explain.

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[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Agreed, however I will say that this season they have moved to more use of blunt weapons and knife kills for zombies.

Saving ammo for the living. [/quote]

that and loud noises tend to bring more zombies where blunt head trauma or machetes (the “ch” pronounced like in “chair” … machete)/sharp edged tools are quieter and possibly more efficient when dealing with a moderate group of zombies AND knowing what the hell you’re doing.

One of the things I appreciate about the show is as they’ve lived in the apocalypse longer they’re more adapt to using hand to hand techniques first and fire arms as a second or last resort or as to distract.[/quote]

When I first read the book and scene the show my fantasy “if this was me” weapon of choice was a machete, if it ever went dull just sharpen it on the pavement. But someone on this site mentioned a bat and I thought, yeah!!! An aluminum bat since these zombies sculls seem to be soft would be my number 1 pick. As long as you can live with the splatter effect. That would be my go to weapon

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[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Agreed, however I will say that this season they have moved to more use of blunt weapons and knife kills for zombies.

Saving ammo for the living. [/quote]

that and loud noises tend to bring more zombies where blunt head trauma or machetes (the “ch” pronounced like in “chair” … machete)/sharp edged tools are quieter and possibly more efficient when dealing with a moderate group of zombies AND knowing what the hell you’re doing.

One of the things I appreciate about the show is as they’ve lived in the apocalypse longer they’re more adapt to using hand to hand techniques first and fire arms as a second or last resort or as to distract.[/quote]

When I first read the book and scene the show my fantasy “if this was me” weapon of choice was a machete, if it ever went dull just sharpen it on the pavement. But someone on this site mentioned a bat and I thought, yeah!!! An aluminum bat since these zombies sculls seem to be soft would be my number 1 pick. As long as you can live with the splatter effect. That would be my go to weapon
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Mine would be either a machete (just so I can pronounce it the way I imagine Danny Trejo pronouncing it) or a cro-bar for it’s multiple uses aside from smashin’ zombie skull

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[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Agreed, however I will say that this season they have moved to more use of blunt weapons and knife kills for zombies.

Saving ammo for the living. [/quote]

that and loud noises tend to bring more zombies where blunt head trauma or machetes (the “ch” pronounced like in “chair” … machete)/sharp edged tools are quieter and possibly more efficient when dealing with a moderate group of zombies AND knowing what the hell you’re doing.

One of the things I appreciate about the show is as they’ve lived in the apocalypse longer they’re more adapt to using hand to hand techniques first and fire arms as a second or last resort or as to distract.[/quote]

When I first read the book and scene the show my fantasy “if this was me” weapon of choice was a machete, if it ever went dull just sharpen it on the pavement. But someone on this site mentioned a bat and I thought, yeah!!! An aluminum bat since these zombies sculls seem to be soft would be my number 1 pick. As long as you can live with the splatter effect. That would be my go to weapon
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Mine would be either a machete (just so I can pronounce it the way I imagine Danny Trejo pronouncing it) or a cro-bar for it’s multiple uses aside from smashin’ zombie skull[/quote]

LMAO, outside of wishing I could change my scene to seen I would still have a machete as a back-up

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[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Agreed, however I will say that this season they have moved to more use of blunt weapons and knife kills for zombies.

Saving ammo for the living. [/quote]

that and loud noises tend to bring more zombies where blunt head trauma or machetes (the “ch” pronounced like in “chair” … machete)/sharp edged tools are quieter and possibly more efficient when dealing with a moderate group of zombies AND knowing what the hell you’re doing.

One of the things I appreciate about the show is as they’ve lived in the apocalypse longer they’re more adapt to using hand to hand techniques first and fire arms as a second or last resort or as to distract.[/quote]

When I first read the book and scene the show my fantasy “if this was me” weapon of choice was a machete, if it ever went dull just sharpen it on the pavement. But someone on this site mentioned a bat and I thought, yeah!!! An aluminum bat since these zombies sculls seem to be soft would be my number 1 pick. As long as you can live with the splatter effect. That would be my go to weapon
[/quote]

Mine would be either a machete (just so I can pronounce it the way I imagine Danny Trejo pronouncing it) or a cro-bar for it’s multiple uses aside from smashin’ zombie skull[/quote]

Mine would be a Ruger SR-22 with a suppressor and plenty of Ruger 25 round mags. Back up would be a lowly Browning .22 with a screw-on barrel.

You could carry 5,000 rounds in a light napsack.

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[quote]LarryH wrote:
Still waiting to see someone or a group using spears, shields, and axes. Especially outside when there is room to maneuver. Yes, getting medieval.

But yeah, this was the most satisfying ending to date, there was really no cliff hanger.[/quote]

If you could choose the battlefield, which the Greeks did carefully, a phalanx would be a zombie grinder.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]LarryH wrote:
Still waiting to see someone or a group using spears, shields, and axes. Especially outside when there is room to maneuver. Yes, getting medieval.

But yeah, this was the most satisfying ending to date, there was really no cliff hanger.[/quote]

If you could choose the battlefield, which the Greeks did carefully, a phalanx would be a zombie grinder.[/quote]

It irks me to no end that these people live in wooded areas with soft soil and haven’t done basic things like dig ditches and place out Cheval de frise – you could quickly expand these to make large fields safe.

Is there not at least one soldier alive? Maybe someone who studied the Civil War?

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[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]LarryH wrote:
Still waiting to see someone or a group using spears, shields, and axes. Especially outside when there is room to maneuver. Yes, getting medieval.

But yeah, this was the most satisfying ending to date, there was really no cliff hanger.[/quote]

If you could choose the battlefield, which the Greeks did carefully, a phalanx would be a zombie grinder.[/quote]

It irks me to no end that these people live in wooded areas with soft soil and haven’t done basic things like dig ditches and place out Cheval de frise – you could quickly expand these to make large fields safe.

Is there not at least one soldier alive? Maybe someone who studied the Civil War?[/quote]

Yeah, I am not a great warrior but if you funnel them like this, attack them like that, rotate your front lines equipped with the most mediocre of chain mails…

Biking leathers…

Anything…