[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Has anyone watched a Webepisode yet?
I watched the first one with the family in the house and the redneck in his basement…nice lil snack between shows.
[quote]gregron wrote:
if you dont like the show then please stop derailing this thread that is discussing how awesome it is.
k thanks.[/quote]
You’re a zombie aren’t you?
Yea I remember that tattoo…
[quote]gregron wrote:
if you dont like the show then please stop derailing this thread that is discussing how awesome it is.
k thanks.[/quote]
Hey, I only said that zombies were stupid. I’m not dissin’ on the show.
This would make you a zombie then?
Can we please keep this thread for talking about Walking Dead.
I really hope they start killing off more characters in brutal/interesting ways. There is a lot of emotional drama and while it’s nice to see character development I sometimes feel like I am watching a Halloween special of Bold and Beautiful.
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]waldo21212 wrote:
Question for all you guys who read the graphic novels - do they ever go into the back story of how each member ended up in the group?
[/quote]
Not really, and for good reason.
Look at The show as a Train with many cars that you got on right outside your house. You look up at the destination sign and it reads as “Fucking Hell”.
Every couple miles a guy walks thru the cars and beats the shit out of 1-7 passengers and throws the Dead bruised bodies off at the next stop as new people get on.
You know your heading to hell. You are just not sure who will still be on the train when it gets there.
So the books don’t have much time for Backstory.[/quote]
Thanks for the info, and I definitely get what you are saying, even though in book/film flash backs are easy to do and can be done at anytime before you kill off who everyone thinks is a “main” character.
I was just curious how a redneck, an old geezer, a good old boy cop, a black guy, and an asian dude end up in a group together.
If rick dies first would that ruin the show?
[quote]waldo21212 wrote:
I was just curious how a redneck, an old geezer, a good old boy cop, a black guy, and an asian dude end up in a group together.[/quote]
It’s called “Season One”… ; )
Edit: After thinking about it, it’s only apparent how Rick hooks up with them. You are right, the rest of the group was already together without explanation.
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
If rick dies first would that ruin the show?[/quote]
No. It would make it interesting in the fact you get to watch the group re-establish pecking order. Though it would probably be between Shane and Daryl. Daryl would probably be the more level headed of the two but Shane would probably be the “leader” since he’s already kind of second-in-command.
I would imagine things would be a lot more chaotic without Rick around.
I think they’d all if if left in shanes hands. It would definitely be more chaotic.
To me, rick dying means shane dies too. Shane will be plotted against because the group will find out how dark he really is.
Shane needs rick so he looks half decent.
[quote]waldo21212 wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]waldo21212 wrote:
Question for all you guys who read the graphic novels - do they ever go into the back story of how each member ended up in the group?
[/quote]
Not really, and for good reason.
Look at The show as a Train with many cars that you got on right outside your house. You look up at the destination sign and it reads as “Fucking Hell”.
Every couple miles a guy walks thru the cars and beats the shit out of 1-7 passengers and throws the Dead bruised bodies off at the next stop as new people get on.
You know your heading to hell. You are just not sure who will still be on the train when it gets there.
So the books don’t have much time for Backstory.[/quote]
Thanks for the info, and I definitely get what you are saying, even though in book/film flash backs are easy to do and can be done at anytime before you kill off who everyone thinks is a “main” character.
I was just curious how a redneck, an old geezer, a good old boy cop, a black guy, and an asian dude end up in a group together.[/quote]
I just like to think the Creator of the show is playing god. And lets be honest if you want to have some drama, you will get a whole lot more mixing up people that have nothing in common other than wanting to live.
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
I think they’d all if if left in shanes hands. It would definitely be more chaotic. [/quote]
Good chance.
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
To me, rick dying means shane dies too. Shane will be plotted against because the group will find out how dark he really is. [/quote]
And I bet it would be Daryl executing the plan.
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
Shane needs rick so he looks half decent. [/quote]
Shane will eventually show himself in spite of Rick being around. Rick won’t be able to cover it up, even if he realizes he needs to. And Rick has no clue who Shane really is right now. The only thing keeping shane’s true character in the dark is he can operate behind the scenes since he’s not the leader. He certainly knows how to pick the right times to play dirty.
Wasn’t the group doing just fine before Rick showed up?
Rick is going to get worse than Shane .
[quote]Christine wrote:
Wasn’t the group doing just fine before Rick showed up?
Rick is going to get worse than Shane . [/quote]
If Rick had not showed up and told them about the guns they would almost all be dead. Remember they had a nice zombie attack in the middle of the first season.
I also think Rick is going to go into full Ape-Shit-Crazy mode soon.
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Christine wrote:
Wasn’t the group doing just fine before Rick showed up?
Rick is going to get worse than Shane . [/quote]
If Rick had not showed up and told them about the guns they would almost all be dead. Remember they had a nice zombie attack in the middle of the first season.
I also think Rick is going to go into full Ape-Shit-Crazy mode soon.[/quote]
Yeah, but why did the zombies show up last season?
Was it the one-handed redneck who led them to the camp? The only reason he has one hand now is because Rick and some handcuffs.
Also, I think they could have mostly survied if Rick wasn’t there.
[quote]Christine wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Christine wrote:
Wasn’t the group doing just fine before Rick showed up?
Rick is going to get worse than Shane . [/quote]
If Rick had not showed up and told them about the guns they would almost all be dead. Remember they had a nice zombie attack in the middle of the first season.
I also think Rick is going to go into full Ape-Shit-Crazy mode soon.[/quote]
Yeah, but why did the zombies show up last season?
Was it the one-handed redneck who led them to the camp? The only reason he has one hand now is because Rick and some handcuffs.
Also, I think they could have mostly survied if Rick wasn’t there.[/quote]
If you recall Rick’s choices when encountering Merle in Ep.1 was a.) Shoot him b.) stand by and watch as he beat T-Dog to death c.) subdue him and handcuff him.
Merle is out of control and a wild card. He makes for interesting scenarios but is dangerous to the group and to himself. By doing what he did, Rick isolated an extremely dangerous variable and by doing so increased the groups chances of survival exponentially.
You do recall when we were introduced to Merle he was taking target practice (wasting ammunition un-neededly) on walkers outside of the store in Downtown Atlanta (possibly and probably attracting more to their location).
Hell, the more I think about it, it’s Glenn’s fault for Merle being a one-handed red neck loose cannon. If he had been more assertive and went on his scavenging mission as he had always done in the past (alone) it would’ve been just him and Rick and they could’ve easily gotten out of their predicament with little planning (of course, that doesn’t really make for a compelling narrative.)
Fuckin’ Glenn
Yeah, he was a crazy red-neck before.
But now he is an even crazier, one-handed red-neck.
Rick should have gone with option ‘a’.
[quote]Christine wrote:
Yeah, he was a crazy red-neck before.
But now he is an even crazier, one-handed red-neck.
Rick should have gone with option ‘a’.[/quote]
At the time, Rick wasn’t willing to eliminate the crazy red-neck. It wasn’t in his character. He was still ‘Deputy Friendly’ and valued Merle’s life more (thus establishing himself and moralistic and humane). Without that we wouldn’t have the Rick/Shane dynamic. He also wouldn’t have the respect of the group and he wouldn’t be their unabashed leader.
But that’s what’s great about this show is we get to see (at least this is what I hope) how Rick’s values, morals, and ethics change over time as a result of the situations he (as the group’s leader) must resolve.
If Rick had shot Merle, he’d be a flat character. He wouldn’t change over time and there wouldn’t be an internal struggle for him that is more compelling than him solving all problems by shooting it. It’s this reason why I find Rick to be a much more intriguing character than Shane. Shane would’ve just shot him as he just beat up Carol’s husband in season 1. If Rick had opted to shoot Merle, he would’ve been Shane. And the show wouldn’t be as intriguing if we had two Shane’s. Shit, there wouldn’t be a group as everyone who caused any problems would’ve gotten shot. Including Daryl, whom is my favorite character at the moment.
I like Daryl too, but I have no doubts. When the zombie apocalypse comes, I am shooting anyone in my way.
Fuck all of you!
[quote]Christine wrote:
I like Daryl too, but I have no doubts. When the zombie apocalypse comes, I am shooting anyone in my way.
Fuck all of you![/quote]
Remind me not to join your group lol
[quote]polo77j wrote:
[quote]Christine wrote:
I like Daryl too, but I have no doubts. When the zombie apocalypse comes, I am shooting anyone in my way.
Fuck all of you![/quote]
Remind me not to join your group lol[/quote]
Just don’t get in my way or be an overall asshole not worth saving.