The Walking Dead Season 2 Pt. 2

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[quote]Christine wrote:
This is the first episode that I have been annoyed with Lori.

It is still bugging me. Why the fuck did she think that she needed to follow Rick and Glen on their search for Hershal? Did she think she would find them drinking booze singing love ballads? When they left, their plan was to find Hershal and bring him home. What could she have added to expedite this?

Dumbass.[/quote]

I didn’t understand that either. At first I couldn’t remember if the girl collapsed before or after Rick left, so maybe Lori was going to tell them to rush back. But Rick told Herschel the girl was in some kind of state, so wtf was Lori doing?

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[quote]overstand wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:
This is the first episode that I have been annoyed with Lori.

It is still bugging me. Why the fuck did she think that she needed to follow Rick and Glen on their search for Hershal? Did she think she would find them drinking booze singing love ballads? When they left, their plan was to find Hershal and bring him home. What could she have added to expedite this?

Dumbass.[/quote]

I didn’t understand that either. At first I couldn’t remember if the girl collapsed before or after Rick left, so maybe Lori was going to tell them to rush back. But Rick told Herschel the girl was in some kind of state, so wtf was Lori doing?[/quote]

Trying to test the air bag and seat belt reliability in the event of a flip on that particular brand of car. You know, in case Carl was driving it, she wanted to be sure he’d be ok so she had to test it out first…

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[quote]Christine wrote:
This is the first episode that I have been annoyed with Lori.

It is still bugging me. Why the fuck did she think that she needed to follow Rick and Glen on their search for Hershal? Did she think she would find them drinking booze singing love ballads? When they left, their plan was to find Hershal and bring him home. What could she have added to expedite this?

Dumbass.[/quote]

I was hoping that she was going to tell Rick what Dale said about Shane, but if that’s the case then why ask Daryl first? I resort back to she’s just a dumb bitch.

And I think the fat dude pissing on the floor was what first tipped Rick off that these guys aren’t the kind of folks to be friends with. I mean, what kind of person pisses on the floor right in front of people they just met? People who have been in prison, that’s who.

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[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]overstand wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:
This is the first episode that I have been annoyed with Lori.

It is still bugging me. Why the fuck did she think that she needed to follow Rick and Glen on their search for Hershal? Did she think she would find them drinking booze singing love ballads? When they left, their plan was to find Hershal and bring him home. What could she have added to expedite this?

Dumbass.[/quote]

I didn’t understand that either. At first I couldn’t remember if the girl collapsed before or after Rick left, so maybe Lori was going to tell them to rush back. But Rick told Herschel the girl was in some kind of state, so wtf was Lori doing?[/quote]

Trying to test the air bag and seat belt reliability in the event of a flip on that particular brand of car. You know, in case Carl was driving it, she wanted to be sure he’d be ok so she had to test it out first…[/quote]

LOL i thought that was obvious.

Seriously it was to tell rick about shane, but why it couldn’t wait is beyond me.

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[quote]waldo21212 wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:
This is the first episode that I have been annoyed with Lori.

It is still bugging me. Why the fuck did she think that she needed to follow Rick and Glen on their search for Hershal? Did she think she would find them drinking booze singing love ballads? When they left, their plan was to find Hershal and bring him home. What could she have added to expedite this?

Dumbass.[/quote]

I was hoping that she was going to tell Rick what Dale said about Shane, but if that’s the case then why ask Daryl first? I resort back to she’s just a dumb bitch.

And I think the fat dude pissing on the floor was what first tipped Rick off that these guys aren’t the kind of folks to be friends with. I mean, what kind of person pisses on the floor right in front of people they just met? People who have been in prison, that’s who.[/quote]

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[quote]borrek wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]Robert A wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:
Also, for such a “tough guy” did anyone else find it ironic that, while cleaning the hands of the woman who just saw her daughters head blown off, Shane was only talking about himself? Shane needs to get a grip on himself[/quote]

That seemed like good writing to me. Shane IS self-centered. Holding true to that even when he was going for “sensitive” was well done.

I am wondering if Daryl is going to get written as “bad buy” again.

Regards,

Robert A[/quote]

I hope not … he might be an ambiguous character who might fall on one side of the line here and the other there … I don’t think he’ll be considered a bad guy, maybe more like a loner than anything. Daryl has the potential to be an extremely deep and complex character.

Plus, he’s not a character in the comics so the writers kind of have free range with what they can do with him. Shane was established in the comics as a “villain” and Rick “leader” and mostly everyone else…Daryl and T-Dog are the exceptions. And with T-Dog, I read an interview with Kirkman saying he is based off of a couple different characters … So Daryl is the only character (to my knowledge) of being soley a show entity.[/quote]

I agree RE Daryl. I was worried that he was turning into a little bit of a cliche last season, being the angry tough guy with a secret good heart. It’s the male version of the hooker with a heart of gold. Hopefully they’ll give him some more depth because at this point he is my favorite character (although Rick took strides by shooting Rene from True Blood)[/quote]

He sort of swung cliche to cliche from season 1 to season 2.

Started off - Tough, racist, redneck. A character put in place to root against.

Then - Holy shit, you mean bigot might still be able to be one of the antagonists? Kind of brave for the writers. I figured they wrote him in because 88’s/KKK types are one of the few completely safe bad guys.

Little Later - Tough guy heart of gold cliche like you mentioned. Still, he was one of the few characters who seemed skilled/crafty/adaptable enough to actually be surviving. This deep into the apocalypse I would think “exceptional” people would be the new “normal” for the living. The dumb/weak/non-coping are all among the walkers or are pretty much being kept alive by those who are not.

Regards,

Robert A

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[quote]overstand wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:
This is the first episode that I have been annoyed with Lori.

It is still bugging me. Why the fuck did she think that she needed to follow Rick and Glen on their search for Hershal? Did she think she would find them drinking booze singing love ballads? When they left, their plan was to find Hershal and bring him home. What could she have added to expedite this?

Dumbass.[/quote]

I didn’t understand that either. At first I couldn’t remember if the girl collapsed before or after Rick left, so maybe Lori was going to tell them to rush back. But Rick told Herschel the girl was in some kind of state, so wtf was Lori doing?[/quote]

Even if Beth (I think that’s her name) collapsed after they left, what is the point still?

It’s not as if Rick is known for being a total dumbass to waste time lollygagging around during a zombie apocalypse. She must know that he wants to get back to family, allies safely as soon as possible.

It simply makes no sense.

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[quote]Robert A wrote:

[quote]borrek wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]Robert A wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:
Also, for such a “tough guy” did anyone else find it ironic that, while cleaning the hands of the woman who just saw her daughters head blown off, Shane was only talking about himself? Shane needs to get a grip on himself[/quote]

That seemed like good writing to me. Shane IS self-centered. Holding true to that even when he was going for “sensitive” was well done.

I am wondering if Daryl is going to get written as “bad buy” again.

Regards,

Robert A[/quote]

I hope not … he might be an ambiguous character who might fall on one side of the line here and the other there … I don’t think he’ll be considered a bad guy, maybe more like a loner than anything. Daryl has the potential to be an extremely deep and complex character.

Plus, he’s not a character in the comics so the writers kind of have free range with what they can do with him. Shane was established in the comics as a “villain” and Rick “leader” and mostly everyone else…Daryl and T-Dog are the exceptions. And with T-Dog, I read an interview with Kirkman saying he is based off of a couple different characters … So Daryl is the only character (to my knowledge) of being soley a show entity.[/quote]

I agree RE Daryl. I was worried that he was turning into a little bit of a cliche last season, being the angry tough guy with a secret good heart. It’s the male version of the hooker with a heart of gold. Hopefully they’ll give him some more depth because at this point he is my favorite character (although Rick took strides by shooting Rene from True Blood)[/quote]

He sort of swung cliche to cliche from season 1 to season 2.

Started off - Tough, racist, redneck. A character put in place to root against.

Then - Holy shit, you mean bigot might still be able to be one of the antagonists? Kind of brave for the writers. I figured they wrote him in because 88’s/KKK types are one of the few completely safe bad guys.

Little Later - Tough guy heart of gold cliche like you mentioned. Still, he was one of the few characters who seemed skilled/crafty/adaptable enough to actually be surviving. This deep into the apocalypse I would think “exceptional” people would be the new “normal” for the living. The dumb/weak/non-coping are all among the walkers or are pretty much being kept alive by those who are not.

Regards,

Robert A[/quote]

This is why he can’t be a leader. He simply isn’t consistent enough and gives into his base emotions too easily.

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[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]overstand wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:
This is the first episode that I have been annoyed with Lori.

It is still bugging me. Why the fuck did she think that she needed to follow Rick and Glen on their search for Hershal? Did she think she would find them drinking booze singing love ballads? When they left, their plan was to find Hershal and bring him home. What could she have added to expedite this?

Dumbass.[/quote]

I didn’t understand that either. At first I couldn’t remember if the girl collapsed before or after Rick left, so maybe Lori was going to tell them to rush back. But Rick told Herschel the girl was in some kind of state, so wtf was Lori doing?[/quote]

Even if Beth (I think that’s her name) collapsed after they left, what is the point still?

It’s not as if Rick is known for being a total dumbass to waste time lollygagging around during a zombie apocalypse. She must know that he wants to get back to family, allies safely as soon as possible.

It simply makes no sense. [/quote]

I felt most of her decisions didn’t make much sense over the last season and a half. I know you have been able to give her a pass/mitigating circumstances ruling on the other stuff so this latest WTF might seem a bit out of character to you. It was not. This was an escalation of her being captain of Team Fail.

Regards,

Robert A

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[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]Robert A wrote:

[quote]borrek wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]Robert A wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:
Also, for such a “tough guy” did anyone else find it ironic that, while cleaning the hands of the woman who just saw her daughters head blown off, Shane was only talking about himself? Shane needs to get a grip on himself[/quote]

That seemed like good writing to me. Shane IS self-centered. Holding true to that even when he was going for “sensitive” was well done.

I am wondering if Daryl is going to get written as “bad buy” again.

Regards,

Robert A[/quote]

I hope not … he might be an ambiguous character who might fall on one side of the line here and the other there … I don’t think he’ll be considered a bad guy, maybe more like a loner than anything. Daryl has the potential to be an extremely deep and complex character.

Plus, he’s not a character in the comics so the writers kind of have free range with what they can do with him. Shane was established in the comics as a “villain” and Rick “leader” and mostly everyone else…Daryl and T-Dog are the exceptions. And with T-Dog, I read an interview with Kirkman saying he is based off of a couple different characters … So Daryl is the only character (to my knowledge) of being soley a show entity.[/quote]

I agree RE Daryl. I was worried that he was turning into a little bit of a cliche last season, being the angry tough guy with a secret good heart. It’s the male version of the hooker with a heart of gold. Hopefully they’ll give him some more depth because at this point he is my favorite character (although Rick took strides by shooting Rene from True Blood)[/quote]

He sort of swung cliche to cliche from season 1 to season 2.

Started off - Tough, racist, redneck. A character put in place to root against.

Then - Holy shit, you mean bigot might still be able to be one of the antagonists? Kind of brave for the writers. I figured they wrote him in because 88’s/KKK types are one of the few completely safe bad guys.

Little Later - Tough guy heart of gold cliche like you mentioned. Still, he was one of the few characters who seemed skilled/crafty/adaptable enough to actually be surviving. This deep into the apocalypse I would think “exceptional” people would be the new “normal” for the living. The dumb/weak/non-coping are all among the walkers or are pretty much being kept alive by those who are not.

Regards,

Robert A[/quote]

This is why he can’t be a leader. He simply isn’t consistent enough and gives into his base emotions too easily.[/quote]

Agreed.

Daryl, great to have on the team but should not be calling the plays.

Regards,

Robert A

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[quote]Robert A wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]Robert A wrote:

[quote]borrek wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]Robert A wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:
Also, for such a “tough guy” did anyone else find it ironic that, while cleaning the hands of the woman who just saw her daughters head blown off, Shane was only talking about himself? Shane needs to get a grip on himself[/quote]

That seemed like good writing to me. Shane IS self-centered. Holding true to that even when he was going for “sensitive” was well done.

I am wondering if Daryl is going to get written as “bad buy” again.

Regards,

Robert A[/quote]

I hope not … he might be an ambiguous character who might fall on one side of the line here and the other there … I don’t think he’ll be considered a bad guy, maybe more like a loner than anything. Daryl has the potential to be an extremely deep and complex character.

Plus, he’s not a character in the comics so the writers kind of have free range with what they can do with him. Shane was established in the comics as a “villain” and Rick “leader” and mostly everyone else…Daryl and T-Dog are the exceptions. And with T-Dog, I read an interview with Kirkman saying he is based off of a couple different characters … So Daryl is the only character (to my knowledge) of being soley a show entity.[/quote]

I agree RE Daryl. I was worried that he was turning into a little bit of a cliche last season, being the angry tough guy with a secret good heart. It’s the male version of the hooker with a heart of gold. Hopefully they’ll give him some more depth because at this point he is my favorite character (although Rick took strides by shooting Rene from True Blood)[/quote]

He sort of swung cliche to cliche from season 1 to season 2.

Started off - Tough, racist, redneck. A character put in place to root against.

Then - Holy shit, you mean bigot might still be able to be one of the antagonists? Kind of brave for the writers. I figured they wrote him in because 88’s/KKK types are one of the few completely safe bad guys.

Little Later - Tough guy heart of gold cliche like you mentioned. Still, he was one of the few characters who seemed skilled/crafty/adaptable enough to actually be surviving. This deep into the apocalypse I would think “exceptional” people would be the new “normal” for the living. The dumb/weak/non-coping are all among the walkers or are pretty much being kept alive by those who are not.

Regards,

Robert A[/quote]

This is why he can’t be a leader. He simply isn’t consistent enough and gives into his base emotions too easily.[/quote]

Agreed.

Daryl, great to have on the team but should not be calling the plays.

Regards,

Robert A[/quote]

Daryl is the perfect right hand man/weapon. The leader gives direction, the weapon strikes.

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[quote]Robert A wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]overstand wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:
This is the first episode that I have been annoyed with Lori.

It is still bugging me. Why the fuck did she think that she needed to follow Rick and Glen on their search for Hershal? Did she think she would find them drinking booze singing love ballads? When they left, their plan was to find Hershal and bring him home. What could she have added to expedite this?

Dumbass.[/quote]

I didn’t understand that either. At first I couldn’t remember if the girl collapsed before or after Rick left, so maybe Lori was going to tell them to rush back. But Rick told Herschel the girl was in some kind of state, so wtf was Lori doing?[/quote]

Even if Beth (I think that’s her name) collapsed after they left, what is the point still?

It’s not as if Rick is known for being a total dumbass to waste time lollygagging around during a zombie apocalypse. She must know that he wants to get back to family, allies safely as soon as possible.

It simply makes no sense. [/quote]

I felt most of her decisions didn’t make much sense over the last season and a half. I know you have been able to give her a pass/mitigating circumstances ruling on the other stuff so this latest WTF might seem a bit out of character to you. It was not. This was an escalation of her being captain of Team Fail.

Regards,

Robert A[/quote]

You’re right that I have given her a pass, but this is just dumbassery of the most dumbassest moves I can think of…

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I have seen all of this season and 3-4 episodes from the 1st. I missed the series premier- is it worth checking it out from the beginning? Does it explain how this all started?

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[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
I have seen all of this season and 3-4 episodes from the 1st. I missed the series premier- is it worth checking it out from the beginning? Does it explain how this all started?[/quote]

First episode is one of the best. Would check it out.

I think they are all on Netflix.

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[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]Robert A wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]Robert A wrote:

[quote]borrek wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]Robert A wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:
Also, for such a “tough guy” did anyone else find it ironic that, while cleaning the hands of the woman who just saw her daughters head blown off, Shane was only talking about himself? Shane needs to get a grip on himself[/quote]

That seemed like good writing to me. Shane IS self-centered. Holding true to that even when he was going for “sensitive” was well done.

I am wondering if Daryl is going to get written as “bad buy” again.

Regards,

Robert A[/quote]

I hope not … he might be an ambiguous character who might fall on one side of the line here and the other there … I don’t think he’ll be considered a bad guy, maybe more like a loner than anything. Daryl has the potential to be an extremely deep and complex character.

Plus, he’s not a character in the comics so the writers kind of have free range with what they can do with him. Shane was established in the comics as a “villain” and Rick “leader” and mostly everyone else…Daryl and T-Dog are the exceptions. And with T-Dog, I read an interview with Kirkman saying he is based off of a couple different characters … So Daryl is the only character (to my knowledge) of being soley a show entity.[/quote]

I agree RE Daryl. I was worried that he was turning into a little bit of a cliche last season, being the angry tough guy with a secret good heart. It’s the male version of the hooker with a heart of gold. Hopefully they’ll give him some more depth because at this point he is my favorite character (although Rick took strides by shooting Rene from True Blood)[/quote]

He sort of swung cliche to cliche from season 1 to season 2.

Started off - Tough, racist, redneck. A character put in place to root against.

Then - Holy shit, you mean bigot might still be able to be one of the antagonists? Kind of brave for the writers. I figured they wrote him in because 88’s/KKK types are one of the few completely safe bad guys.

Little Later - Tough guy heart of gold cliche like you mentioned. Still, he was one of the few characters who seemed skilled/crafty/adaptable enough to actually be surviving. This deep into the apocalypse I would think “exceptional” people would be the new “normal” for the living. The dumb/weak/non-coping are all among the walkers or are pretty much being kept alive by those who are not.

Regards,

Robert A[/quote]

This is why he can’t be a leader. He simply isn’t consistent enough and gives into his base emotions too easily.[/quote]

Agreed.

Daryl, great to have on the team but should not be calling the plays.

Regards,

Robert A[/quote]

Daryl is the perfect right hand man/weapon. The leader gives direction, the weapon strikes.
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i mean hes no tig from sam cro…

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[quote]westdale warrior wrote:

i mean hes no tig from sam cro…[/quote]

I see more parallels between Tig and Shane…Daryl is essentially becoming Opie IMO

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