The kids from the Citadel are coming to mind
The Collector is up there as well
The Titans from Attack on Titan
President Logan in 24 was a villain you just loved to hate.
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
Are we talking in terms of evilness or ability to F shit up?
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Evilness but both [/quote]
Gozilla fucks shit up
For evilness Patrick Bateman and Joker win for sociopath category
Leader of the Borg beats Vader for intergalactic tyrant
Xenomorphs beat Predator for scary alien, mainly because of the whole rape metaphor with their breeding
Freddy beats Jason and Pinhead for horror
Chong Li over Tong Po for long haired ever Asian underground sport fighter
Coolest mother fucker award goes to Simon Pheonix
Worst villains:
Mr Glass
The aliens that die for no reason in war of the worlds
The grass in the Happening
Fucking Mothra
[quote]Waittz wrote:
Worst villains:
Mr Glass
The aliens that die for no reason in war of the worlds
The grass in the Happening
Fucking Mothra
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Haha, The Happening deserves all the shit it gets.
Sadly I have to agree with Mr Glass, however under better guidance I feel that film premise could have really been made into something very well made. I enjoy the idea of a superhuman that doesn’t know he’s superhuman, or rather a superhero growing up with the personality and thoughts of a broken man. I actually tend to like Unbreakable more than a lot of people do, though I do recognise it’s flaws and feel it needed a hell of a lot more work.
Lol a bit… but kinda badass
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
Worst villains:
Mr Glass
The aliens that die for no reason in war of the worlds
The grass in the Happening
Fucking Mothra
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Haha, The Happening deserves all the shit it gets.
Sadly I have to agree with Mr Glass, however under better guidance I feel that film premise could have really been made into something very well made. I enjoy the idea of a superhuman that doesn’t know he’s superhuman, or rather a superhero growing up with the personality and thoughts of a broken man. I actually tend to like Unbreakable more than a lot of people do, though I do recognise it’s flaws and feel it needed a hell of a lot more work.[/quote]
I loved the movie and think S Jackson played the character wonderfully. Just as a villian a wheelchair bound fragile pseudo terrorist was weak sauce.
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
Worst villains:
Mr Glass
The aliens that die for no reason in war of the worlds
The grass in the Happening
Fucking Mothra
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Haha, The Happening deserves all the shit it gets.
Sadly I have to agree with Mr Glass, however under better guidance I feel that film premise could have really been made into something very well made. I enjoy the idea of a superhuman that doesn’t know he’s superhuman, or rather a superhero growing up with the personality and thoughts of a broken man. I actually tend to like Unbreakable more than a lot of people do, though I do recognise it’s flaws and feel it needed a hell of a lot more work.[/quote]
I loved the movie and think S Jackson played the character wonderfully. Just as a villian a wheelchair bound fragile pseudo terrorist was weak sauce. [/quote]
Like seriously, his biggest weakness was lack of a handicap ramp.
When I think of movie villains, the first one that pops in my head just about every time is Bruce Dern’s character in “John Wayne and the Cowboys”.
Pure evil. Pure cowardly evil.
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
Worst villains:
Mr Glass
The aliens that die for no reason in war of the worlds
The grass in the Happening
Fucking Mothra
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Haha, The Happening deserves all the shit it gets.
Sadly I have to agree with Mr Glass, however under better guidance I feel that film premise could have really been made into something very well made. I enjoy the idea of a superhuman that doesn’t know he’s superhuman, or rather a superhero growing up with the personality and thoughts of a broken man. I actually tend to like Unbreakable more than a lot of people do, though I do recognise it’s flaws and feel it needed a hell of a lot more work.[/quote]
I loved the movie and think S Jackson played the character wonderfully. Just as a villain a wheelchair bound fragile pseudo terrorist was weak sauce. [/quote]
Oh he plays every character wonderfully, it’s in his nature as a god damn master human.
Yeah that’s definitely a major part, I think with more of a tragic and vindictive back story it might have been made to work, as opposed to purely intrigue and wonder-driven in his intentions. If he were far more of a logical mastermind with a more emotional manifestation of hate in his personality, I would have liked him far more.
[quote]DarkNinjaa
Frank – Once upon a time in the West – You don’t kill children like that, motherfucker!!
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I don’t know many guys who would recognize the character or the film …shit, I’d be one if my dad didn’t make me watch it when I was a kid!
Impressive choice
He was a motherfucker, and the only bad guy role I knew Henry Fonda to play (?)
Vaas, Far cry 3.
[quote]Stiglitz wrote:
[quote]DarkNinjaa
Frank – Once upon a time in the West – You don’t kill children like that, motherfucker!!
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I don’t know many guys who would recognize the character or the film …shit, I’d be one if my dad didn’t make me watch it when I was a kid!
Impressive choice
He was a motherfucker, and the only bad guy role I knew Henry Fonda to play (?)
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I hadn’t even decided to view it until recently. Henry Fonda played a ruthless, arrogant post-civil war general in Fort Apache, but really it depends whether or not you count that, Frank is his only clear-cut villain role as far as I know.
I agree, having seen it only recently, Frank is a brilliant choice for top-end villains.
[quote]Stiglitz wrote:
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
[quote]Stiglitz wrote:
[quote]DarkNinjaa
Frank – Once upon a time in the West – You don’t kill children like that, motherfucker!!
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I don’t know many guys who would recognize the character or the film …shit, I’d be one if my dad didn’t make me watch it when I was a kid!
Impressive choice
He was a motherfucker, and the only bad guy role I knew Henry Fonda to play (?)
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I hadn’t even decided to view it until recently. Henry Fonda played a ruthless, arrogant post-civil war general in Fort Apache, but really it depends whether or not you count that, Frank is his only clear-cut villain role as far as I know.
I agree, having seen it only recently, Frank is a brilliant choice for top-end villains.[/quote]
Or maybe “On Golden Pond”
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Ha, scum of the Earth that ‘Old Man Thayer’. Semi-unrelated, but I do adore “On Golden Pond”, it’s an incredibly good film.
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
Worst villains:
Mr Glass
The aliens that die for no reason in war of the worlds
The grass in the Happening
Fucking Mothra
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Haha, The Happening deserves all the shit it gets.
Sadly I have to agree with Mr Glass, however under better guidance I feel that film premise could have really been made into something very well made. I enjoy the idea of a superhuman that doesn’t know he’s superhuman, or rather a superhero growing up with the personality and thoughts of a broken man. I actually tend to like Unbreakable more than a lot of people do, though I do recognise it’s flaws and feel it needed a hell of a lot more work.[/quote]
I loved the movie and think S Jackson played the character wonderfully. Just as a villain a wheelchair bound fragile pseudo terrorist was weak sauce. [/quote]
Oh he plays every character wonderfully, it’s in his nature as a god damn master human.
Yeah that’s definitely a major part, I think with more of a tragic and vindictive back story it might have been made to work, as opposed to purely intrigue and wonder-driven in his intentions. If he were far more of a logical mastermind with a more emotional manifestation of hate in his personality, I would have liked him far more.[/quote]
Unbreakable is one of my favorite movies. Mr.Glass is a far more complex antagonist than he is given credit for. He’s been committing acts of mass murder in the hope that he’ll find an unbreakable man -with no guarantee that such a person exists - and it’s only relatively late in the movie that we find out that David Dunn really IS superhuman (the near drowning, car accident and even the bench press scene all red herrings, to imply that Elijah is a kook).
In the world that these characters inhabit, the concept of a super human actually existing is just as far-fetched as in ours. Elijah Price is just as much a reluctant villain as David Dunn is a reluctant hero.
Price only accepts his role when Dunn accepts his. Elijah has been killing innocent people for an unspecified length of time, not through curiousity or pleasure but to find his purpose in the world . We only find out he’s responsible for the train wreck, among other disasters at the end. While that seems obvious, Price never had any assurance that his theories were true: he could just as easily turned out to be a madman killing innocent people because he read it in a comic book - that possibility is there right up until David tackles the Orange Man.
M. Night originally conceived Unbreakable as a trilogy. This is the origin story that places Dunn as the hero and Price as the villain (one who “fights the hero with his mind”). They never come into direct conflict, as Price serves as a mentor/guide until his true nature is revealed and, apart from that one montage, all of Mr. Glass’s villainy is committed off-screen. The revelation that he is a villain is enough. Presumably the plan was to allow Elijah to ease into more a conventionally villainous role in later movies.
Hokey name? OK. Easy to beat up? Guilty as charged. Still managed to kill hundreds of people. Not bad for a crazy haired cripple.
[quote]drunkpig wrote:
When I think of movie villains, the first one that pops in my head just about every time is Bruce Dern’s character in “John Wayne and the Cowboys”.
Pure evil. Pure cowardly evil.
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Man, I watched The Cowboys for the first time as a kid and it ruined Bruce Dern for me. I could never watch anything else he was in without seeing Long Hair.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
Worst villains:
Mr Glass
The aliens that die for no reason in war of the worlds
The grass in the Happening
Fucking Mothra
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Haha, The Happening deserves all the shit it gets.
Sadly I have to agree with Mr Glass, however under better guidance I feel that film premise could have really been made into something very well made. I enjoy the idea of a superhuman that doesn’t know he’s superhuman, or rather a superhero growing up with the personality and thoughts of a broken man. I actually tend to like Unbreakable more than a lot of people do, though I do recognise it’s flaws and feel it needed a hell of a lot more work.[/quote]
I loved the movie and think S Jackson played the character wonderfully. Just as a villain a wheelchair bound fragile pseudo terrorist was weak sauce. [/quote]
Oh he plays every character wonderfully, it’s in his nature as a god damn master human.
Yeah that’s definitely a major part, I think with more of a tragic and vindictive back story it might have been made to work, as opposed to purely intrigue and wonder-driven in his intentions. If he were far more of a logical mastermind with a more emotional manifestation of hate in his personality, I would have liked him far more.[/quote]
Unbreakable is one of my favorite movies. Mr.Glass is a far more complex antagonist than he is given credit for. He’s been committing acts of mass murder in the hope that he’ll find an unbreakable man -with no guarantee that such a person exists - and it’s only relatively late in the movie that we find out that David Dunn really IS superhuman (the near drowning, car accident and even the bench press scene all red herrings, to imply that Elijah is a kook).
In the world that these characters inhabit, the concept of a super human actually existing is just as far-fetched as in ours. Elijah Price is just as much a reluctant villain as David Dunn is a reluctant hero.
Price only accepts his role when Dunn accepts his. Elijah has been killing innocent people for an unspecified length of time, not through curiousity or pleasure but to find his purpose in the world . We only find out he’s responsible for the train wreck, among other disasters at the end. While that seems obvious, Price never had any assurance that his theories were true: he could just as easily turned out to be a madman killing innocent people because he read it in a comic book - that possibility is there right up until David tackles the Orange Man.
M. Night originally conceived Unbreakable as a trilogy. This is the origin story that places Dunn as the hero and Price as the villain (one who “fights the hero with his mind”). They never come into direct conflict, as Price serves as a mentor/guide until his true nature is revealed and, apart from that one montage, all of Mr. Glass’s villainy is committed off-screen. The revelation that he is a villain is enough. Presumably the plan was to allow Elijah to ease into more a conventionally villainous role in later movies.
Hokey name? OK. Easy to beat up? Guilty as charged. Still managed to kill hundreds of people. Not bad for a crazy haired cripple.
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Perhaps you’re right, normally I would argue certain parts of that, (albeit reluctantly, I love Unbreakable too, perhaps even more than The Sixth Sense.) however the revelation that it was made to be a trilogy may answer some particular flaws, most notably the abruptness and unexplored nature of the ending. Unless of course Shyamalan decided against a trilogy before his finalities were set in, and resorted back to that ending knowing he would probably not make another, in which case it retains some of my dissatisfaction.
I will give the benefit of the doubt that I have unfairly judged Price as a villain. While I think his potential as a villain was not quite reached, and his insanity was not explored enough to justify the final revelation of his character coming so close to the ending, there may indeed just be something I’m missing hidden in the film, or some kind of bad light I have painted on him because of the superficial aspect of how he’s been shown to us.
I do still feel that the film could have been better under the wing of someone other than Shyamalan, who couldn’t quite bring it to the level it deserved to be at, but as it is I will not go out of my way to denounce it’s ridges and bumps so rudely. I will think this one through for tonight, to see if I was being silly in retrospect.
[quote]doogie wrote:
[quote]drunkpig wrote:
When I think of movie villains, the first one that pops in my head just about every time is Bruce Dern’s character in “John Wayne and the Cowboys”.
Pure evil. Pure cowardly evil.
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Man, I watched The Cowboys for the first time as a kid and it ruined Bruce Dern for me. I could never watch anything else he was in without seeing Long Hair.[/quote]
Me too. I hated him so much, I rooted for the dinosaurs to kill his daughter in Jurassic Park.