The UFC Thread | STRICKLAND BEATS IZZY

I think your right. Haha I guess cause those guys have gotten so much press it skewed my perception.

But I maintain that I see more taller bantamweights than before.

Also, have you seen Mendes training again. He is looking sharp.

Lastly Miranda Maverick just got robbed. Barber did not win that fight.

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Funny comparison - I feel similarly about both of them apart from the distinctions you mentioned

Yes. He said these words. It’s on you if you believe them. Nobody having trouble cutting takes EPO. It’s for endurance purposes. Purposes he never got to take advantage off after having his head bounced off the floor by Henry.

It was quick, but I’ve watched it, MANY times, in slow motion, from every angle that I could find. After trying to get up, he was hit many times, and then he was ROCKED, and his head went bobbing back down to the ground. The “single leg takedown” never happened, he was just grabbing Cejudo’s leg, who had stepped over him, putting his leg in that position.

Watch, starting at 5:20

As many as 5 or 6 unanswered shots to the face. Fight isn’t stopped, TJ is still moving around, but he gets onto his knees, gets hit with another uppercut that doesn’t hit that hard, gets up further, and at 5:31, he gets his head SNAPPED back with a hook, into the OTHER fist of cejudo, crumples back down to the ground. It was an absolutely justified stopping. He wasn’t doing anything to answer anything. Plenty of refs would have stopped that fight. Not saying it was perfect - obviously TJ was walking around after, but he could potentially have had some serious damage done if it wasn’t.

HOWEVER - this is absolutely something we can disagree on, and I have no problem debating that. What I do find incredible, is anyone believing an MMA fighter who says he took EPO for medical reasons.

Also, to your other post - yeah, Mendes looks sharp. Like a lil’ Tyson with those hams he’s walkin around on.

Let me preface this response. Not looking for an argument. But.

It makes sense physiologically that your hermatocrit crashes when your starving yourself. Happens with anorexics. So low hermatocrit = impaired endurance. So yeah it has to do with endurance.

But if at 135 his hermatocrit is 50 % which is normal but cutting to 125 it goes to 30 %. He is claiming that he took the EPO to bring him back to normal.

Snapped is a bit of a hyperbole.

Yeah he got rocked. These are flyweights. They can throw a flurry of punches in a short time.

I feel the same with the stoppage with Cruz vs Cejudo. Also early in my opinion.

Cejuda vs Dillashaw was a “super fight”.

So yeah we disagree. On that.

I’ve mentioned that above. The rules state you cannot take that substance. I am not arguing he didn’t break the rules. But I am saying the notion that that cut could have compromised his physiology is very believable. Now he made the decision to make that cut.

So to come full circle. The statement was he was crying about his loss to Cejudo was because he didn’t get to take advantage of the effects of the EPO.

That is not true. That is not what he said at all. Not even in the slightest. To say that he said that makes me think for some reason your not a fan of the guy.

Jesus, dude. Do you want people to die? At least the Dillashaw one can be questioned.

15:40. Shows the entire sequence in slow motion.

Rocked with an absolutely devastating knee. Goes limp and falls backwards. Close-up of his face shows the wonky mouth, he was nearly out. Cejudo runs up and hits him right on the temple with a right hand. Switches stances, takes 8 unanswered shots to the side of the head while looking down and barely moving. That stoppage was good.

And no - I’m not a fan of Dillashaw, but I respect his abilities. He lost to Cejudo though, and nobody takes EPO to fix a hematocrit problem. Pro fighters blood dope for endurance purposes. When you’re going 5 rounds of high intensity with a wrestler at 125 pounds, you need that endurance. There are medications and other avenues to fix a low hematocrit.

Also, I never said that TJ said that about the EPO. I said that the reason he was crying in his loss was because that 30 seconds meant he couldn’t take advantage of it. I never attributed a quote to him about it, at all.

Just finished watching the main event.

My humble opinion, close competitive fight but Sandhagen got robbed. He landed the bigger shots and largely was able to keep the fight on the feet by stopping TJ’s takedown attempts and consistently was able to find his way off the fence back to the open areas of the mat.

Just too bad becuase you could tell he was really trying to finish Dillashaw. Also if TJ’s future gameplans involves absorbing that kind of damage his career will probably be done sooner than later.

I guess if Cory had kept the “spinnin’ s*&!” to a minimum it could have made the difference.

Bro. I’ve seen all these fights. Multiple times. You don’t need to repost them. We disagree. Thats ok.

Actually. That is exactly why EPO is given. In the context of sports it is given for improved performance.

But I am going off the narrative TJ is sharing. That the cut crashed his hermatocrit so he was trying to correct his hermatocrit.

Thats not so hard to comprehend.

Thats your quote. What does that mean. When did he say anything about his loss in 30 seconds meant he couldn’t take advantage of using PEDS? Your making shit up man.

Virtue of being a close fight would preclude a decision from being a robbery. Don’t you think.

I think fight could have gone either way. Depends on how you judge it.

TJ put a fucking pace on Corey. Also had some great shots. Had some take downs. Had great clinch work.

Corey. Landed more significant shots in a few rounds. But it was a small lead when he did have it. TJ’s face did get that nasty cut.

So overall I agree with the decision. I think in the top five that was the hardest fight for TJ.

I think he beats Aljo and Petyr. So TJ might be champ in next 8 months.

I dunno. Got no love for TJ but I thought he won.

Why is this the third time you’ve said this? I never said he said anything. I said it was WHY he said what he said. I even said, directly to you, that he never said that. Don’t know how many times I have to type “said”, either, haha.

Ok I must be crazy.

Did you not say this:

That is literally you saying TJ said he lost to Cejudo because he couldn’t take advantage of the EPO.

Unless what your saying is actually that.

  1. TJ is complaining about a early 30 second stoppage.
  2. YOU believe the reason he is complaining about a 30 second stoppage is because that is not a long enough time for him to have benefited performance wise from having taken EPO.

If thats what you meant then you should have structured that sentence differently because as it stands it reads as if your saying something else.

It says the second thing you said. It doesn’t read differently. This is silly to be explaining this, but “his crying about losing to Cejudo was because…” referring to him crying, and the reason that he is crying, is because…

Grammatically, it just reads that way. It’s of course, my opinion, but that sentence does not read that way.

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Anyways - I’m sorry if I was unclear there. As I said - he’s really talented, and he showed that tonight, again. Not many people come back after a hiatus like that and perform up to standard, so I can’t hate THAT.

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Fascinating main event. Sandhagen appeared to outstrike Dillashaw throughout. Dillashaw’s wrestling and jiu-jitsu coaches are likely to have words for him after this fight. I can’t believe he had that body lock on Sandhagen repeatedly and couldn’t do anything significant with it.

A growth opportunity for Sandhagen, who may get a chance to revenge his loss to Sterling once Sterling loses the rematch to Yan. I think Yan will be the proper favorite over Dillashaw, but I’m looking forward to the fight if they make it.

As far as total strikes it was 128 Sandhagen to Dillashaws 110. So not a tremendous difference.

Although Corey did have a higher percentage of those strikes being to the head. TJ landed 41 leg kicks. Thats a lot! Side note. Carlos Condit holds record for most leg kicks in a fight with 68 against Nate Diaz at UFC 143.

TJ out struck him in the 3rd and 5th.

2 take downs for TJ out of 19 total attempts. With 8 minutes and 22 seconds of control time for TJ. Conversely 0 take downs and no control for Cory.

Its interesting so many people are upset at this decision.

I think the fight stats plus the pace TJ brought make a great argument that he deserved the win.

Well he mentioned how he thought his knee was compromised. Also, Cory looks like a really strong guy to me. Sometimes people just have a body type that throws you off.

Aljo already saying he will choke Cory out again haha.

I thought Cory was the hardest match up for TJ in the top five. I think him beating Petr Yan is easier than him beating Cory Sandhagen.

Regardless of the outcome I am excited to see what happens.

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So, I’m really not one for “drama”, but this is less “drama” and more like continuing proof that Conor is a shitty human being. I was certainly a fan once upon a time, and I could care less about losses with regards to someone’s character, so it’s not the losing that made me dislike him, it’s stuff like this.

Khabib posted this after the fight.

Sure, that’s taking a shot at Conor. Again, Conor was classless and crossed boundaries in his insults to Dustin and Dustin’s family, but it’s still calling Conor evil, and you can expect a response. Pretty much the only response that you would hope Conor wouldn’t go to would be, say, insulting Khabib’s dead father, 17 days later.

He’s since deleted it, but man, it’s hard to put into words how cowardly that is.

Yeah that’s awful. Not saying every athlete needs to be 100% class but I wish there were repercussions for shit like this. Like say, the MMA fan base universally telling Conor to go make shitty whiskey, stay out of the octagon, and shut the fuck up. However, I’m certain the collective response will be the diametric opposite of that . . .

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The trash talk in mma has become worse than pro wrestling. It’s classless, vulgar and way too personal. Even the post fight interviews are just a bunch of f bombs, and I believe ESPN is now bleeping them. It’s not a good look for the sport. It’s like fighters have the emotional maturity of teenagers who think it’s cool to swear in public in the name of keeping it real. It really makes you miss someone like GSP.

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Sooo Uriah Hall had another classic Uriah Hall performance against against Sean Strickland.

Perhaps Bisping was right in his commentary. Spinning stuff looks good but its basic fundamentals that win fights most the time. Maybe Hall’s fundamentals are what have always been lacking.

In other news.

Looks like Dillashaw needs surgery on his MCL. From what I heard a 6 month rehab time. Not include a training camp. So maybe 9 months before he could fight again. Maybe he can avoid surgery.

If he were to win the title today he would already be the oldest bantamweight champion in history of the sport.

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Hall really looked pretty rough. Not to take anything away from Strickland … They’ve trained together in the past, which is always a little interesting.

Maybe Hall v. Holland next? Both guys on the outside of the top ten looking in …

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