Thought for the day:
I am leaving today and will not have open net access for 7 to 8 days. I wish everyone a safe Thanksgiving holiday. Be aware, be alert. Enjoy friends and family.
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Yup. Not that much to it really. I’ll not burn space here to post the “how to” in detail, but essentially u cut around the anus to get the colon loose for later, then slice, blade edge up (helps to not get hair onto meat but away from it) up to sternum. Use serrated blade to get to right or left up to esophagus/windpipe area, pull chest wide open, roll deer on side. Pull guts from pooper to throat out on ground, walk to other side and tug carcass away from mess, proceed to do wat you’re gonna do to get deer from field location to processing, or fire for cooking if it’s like that…oh, and u can cut the tenderloins out once the guts are outta the way…yummy.
I’d recommend any newbies either go with someone who has experience or watch a variety of youtubes to get good idea before attempting this.
Also, u dont need a bone saw to get through the chest plate. A good serrated blade to either side of sternum will do, else use a hacksaw.
Good meme. I have a ton of acquaintances, but about 2-3 friends----> that title must be earned.
Butterfied backstrap (outer side of spine) cooked in a skillet.
Oh yeah!
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It’s better to have four quarters than one hundred pennies.
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^5
K, so payday for military happens to be Black Friday this year. I’ll be in line outside an unnamed sporting goods store at 0500, have a shopping list of 3 items: new deer blind, tent stakes, tripod swivel stool for blind to sit on with crossbow the following days, or until a deer is harvested.
BTW, I happen to have a deer liver given me by bro in law few weeks back…recipe as of yet untried for this one. Funny tho, while I was bringing it in from cooler outta wifes Jeep (he sent it with her), she said “looks yummy, just take a bite now” … the whole dare game proceeded. She backed off before so help me God I was going to open the freezer bag and take a bite of the bloody liver while poised over her lap on a $50 bet. Yeh, she knew she was about to pay me 50 bucks. Silly woman 
Tenderloin in skillet sounds better !!
I like deer liver, but a little bit goes a long way. It’s great if you slice it thin, soak the blood out in warm water and fry it up with onions and eggs. I’ll eat like 4oz’s at a time. It does not keep well in the freezer.
Another piece of meat most people waste is the heart. It’s not organ meat, it’s a muscle like everything else. Slice it thin and soak to get the blood out.
I’ve no clue if a poll is possible, and if it is, how to do it. Plus, this ain’t my thread. That said, I’m curious as to what tactical pants brand other men prefer, and why?
I realize a ton of ppl like 5.11, and ok fine, I’m wearing a pair right now, but only coz they were on sale, it had been years, and I thought I’d see if they were any better than last time. They ain’t. I don’t like the slash rear pockets. Cargo pockets are too damn small, closures too tight, no mag pockets inside,which takes me to
TruSpec, MY Fav. And Hail.Naw I’m not a rep or associated. Just a dude. Not even active in a field now. That said, TruSpec are roomier, have .again pockets inside cargo pockets, nicer back pockets, not AS deep for certain but damn, I dont neet to fit my entire forearm in a rear pocket. And, many TruSpec pants offer knee pad pockets for not much more money, and if u ever had your knees on empty brass without pads, u know y they’re so Fn important smartasses…I’ve had them last as long as any other.
No, they dont have the teflon coating, so if that’s important to u for whatever reason, you likely already know…and the cost is way less, especially at AAFES, but also at civilian sources. Hell, Wallyworld even Carries them.
At work we’re issued Propper, and can wear 5.11 if we buy them ourselves. During the summer, which in VA is 6 months long, we are allowed to wear shorts, but we have to buy them ourselves.
The old Propper pants we were issued fit great. Guys call them Briar Britches, because they are thick and hot. But as I only wear them in the cold months that’s a plus in my book. The new style Propper Pants are thin and don’t fit anyone at all. I don’t think the thing that designed them ever saw a human. The old pants allowed you to stretch and move, climb up in a fire truck. The new ones are restrictive and feel like you’re going to bust out the crotch everytime you step up. I can’t raise my knee to waist height in them.
5.11’s are ok, but as long as I have a few serviceable pairs of briar britches I’m not spending my money.
5.11 and Propper are the two brands of shorts we’re allowed to buy. The Propper shorts suck like the new style Propper pants. 5.11’s are overpriced. But those are the choices and they give you shit if they catch you wearing a different brand. Neither 5.11 nor Propper are NFPA compliant because they are mostly polyester, which melts to your skin. Great firefighter uniforms, makes perfect sense if you don’t think about it. I have a couple of pairs of Tru-Spec shorts I really like, and wear on occasion, and no one has noticed.
For off duty I’m a huge fan of Duluth Trading Company’s pants. They are very durable, allow you to move and have a ton of pockets for all of the shit I carry around. Their stretch pants are cool enough to wear during the summer, very thin, but still durable. I was wearing a pair when I wrecked my bike 5 years ago and they saved me a lot of road rash.
We wear 5.11 on our team. Not bad. A bit overpriced I.m.o.
I like the Kuhl brand pants, but then I don’t typically wear cargo pants. If you get the right model, they (Kuhl) have the narrow deep pockets on both thighs just above the knee which are great for cell phones, Leatherman, I’ve even stuffed pistol and M4 mags in them. Just one of the above per pocket (2-3 pistol mags per pocket), but still. They are lightweight and breathable, pretty durable so far. A little pricey, but a good pair of pants.
When I wear cargo pants, I go with the old 5.11 cargo pants. Was issued a couple pair from a previous contract and still wear them on occasion (usually with the volunteer FD). Big and roomy, and best of all they were free.
For anything tactical (including mountain rope rescue - yes, I know that’s not ‘tactical’), I have a few pair of Crye pants. I have been wearing the AOR1 and AOR2 pattern pants I was issued about 10 years ago up until recently, and they are still solid and ready to work. The green pair (AOR2) have faded considerably, but they did most of that in the first few washes. Since I can’t get another set of either of those, they have been boxed away and relegated to Sea Cadet use only (I am an instructor with the Sea Cadet Corps). I recently purchased a khaki pair and a blue pair of the Crye’s for rescue work so I can make the AORs last longer. They are pricey, but I have the advantage of being able to write off quite a bit of stuff as ‘business expenses’. Best knee pad set up I have ever come across (the main reason I have been wearing them for rescue work - not trying to look cool or anything).
Not much different from what I hunt with (below). 230gr at 900fps should be okay. I subscribe to the momentum school of thought rather than the kinetic energy school for hunting and getting humane kills.
My only reservations about your loadout is the gold cup tends to like to feed RN bullets (it was made before hollow points were common). That limits your choices. Do you hand load?
Most handgun hunters who hunt with autos and are wed to the 1911 style end up going with a delta 88 in 10mm. That round is a damn monster.
For handgun hunting I prefer a 44 magnum with a cast 240gr with a wide meplat at 1100 fps. I refuse to shoot an animal over 50yds with a handgun, but more for sporting reasons (if I can’t get closer than 50 yards am I really “hunting”?). I’ve hit 10" steel plates at 200 meters with that load out of a redhawk.
Good question. I mainly wear 5.11" because they are issued. I have several pair of Kuhls and one pair of Crye.
Brother , in my opinion, mountain rescue is as tactical as it gets.
Damn, that is just plain good shooting.
Thought for the day:
The American Heritage Dictionary defines a Walter Mitty as “an ordinary often ineffectual person who indulges in fantastic daydreams of personal triumphs”.
As demonstrated last week, don’t fall into the trap of thinking your skills stay the same, regardless of what you could do in the past. Starting out with a statement, ‘well when I was in the military or when I was in the police academy or when I was going through basic I did this”. That has nothing to do what you can now. I have observed that men have a real problem in evaluating their tactical skills. I have worked with women who were EOD techs, AIR Force police, Federal agents ,and local LEO’S, but, I really don’t know if they have this tendency or not. Even during range or work bullshit sessions, I have never heard one say, “You know, when I was on the college rifle team or when I was in basic or the academy, I could out shoot a SEAL sniper” . (As I heard last week).
Tactical skills are very perishable and you must always be truthful with yourself. False belief built upon past accomplishments is a good way to get yourself or someone else killed. IMHO, this is where the martial arts really shine, because training with others will let you know right quick where you stand. There is no false assumption when someone pins you in 30 seconds or spar with a good boxer or Thai fighter, finding yourself knocked on your ass . The same with weapons skills, even local matches with regular civilian shooters, have a tendency to kick your ass. Seek out ways to test your present abilities, what you could do in the past, is just that, in the past.
Training:
only had access to one Brute Force Sand bag and bands, so loaded carries and band punches.
Question of the day:
Following s_afsoc lead: What boots are you wearing? I like Salomon and Iowa’s, but, budget usually finds me wearing Merells and Hi-Tech. I use a pair of LL Bean boots for muddy conditions and have a old pair Danner paratrooper boots for general off duty work.
Not really. The nice thing about targets is they never shoot back. I’m the least tactical guy in the thread.
Look up handgun silhouette competitions. You have to knock the rams over at 200M, not just ring them. My old boss used to shoot a 308 out of a 10# contender. It was more comfortable than you’d think… just with 5" of flame and a big shockwave.
Soloman GTX 4 6" boots when I need some decent footwear
Soloman Speedcross for technical trail hikes.
Oboz Mid Bdry Hiker for general trails and casual wear.
Doc Martin Chelsea Boots for around town
Danner Pronghorn for upland hunting
Muck Woodie Max for cold wet conditions
A whole bunch of Swats and Oakley SI I got on sale.
Various waders for fly fishing and duck hunting.
ASICS running and wrestling shoes
Lots of other footwear not worth mentioning
A few guys on our Swat team wear Merells including myself. Love em. Light weight. Durable. Fairly inexpensive especially compared to Salomons.
Following s_afsoc lead: What boots are you wearing?
Since im.pure civilian, Redhead side zip 6" “tactical” they call them. Waterproof at least, comfy n warm, quick on and off for my damaged-from-service dominant hand.
If I were active, itd be Salomon GTX Mids.