The Stupid Thread 2 (Part 1)

It is the fault of anti-vax people who have rallied against the vaccines in this state (fueled by ridiculous points from some conservative news media), many of whom are also staunch Trump worshiper’s (no politician should be held to that high of standard no matter what party they are from). These folks here (and I have met more than my share) truly believe the microchip theory (among other unrelated crackpot theories).
If these holdouts (currently more than 50% of the vaccine eligible population here in Florida) would get vaccinated, the hospitals would be less overwhelmed (it’s been reported that over 95% of COVID hospitalizations in my county are from those who haven’t been vaccinated). If people would get on board with getting a very simple shot, the whole state/country could get back to some sense of normal.

So, how is not the fault of people in Florida who have decided to not get vaccinated causing the infection rate to rise and cascading the rest of the effects?

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Assuming that there are just as many hospitalizations as last summer, that hospitals are truly overwhelmed, and that COVID hospitalizations would still be hospitalizations if a person showed up in the same condition in 2015, the vaccinated are still vaccinated. Forcing them to wear a mask makes no sense. Forcing them to wear a mask just makes it seem that the vaccine/s are not effective.

That’s what I am saying - the amount hospitalizations would be significantly less is more of the population was vaccinated.
Therefore the impact on healthcare is minimized and I wouldn’t have to wear a mask to prevent possibly spreading some droplets containing the virus to those are non-vaccinated because they made an anti-science, selfish choice.
I agree that forcing the vaccinated to wear masks is dumb, but that dumb decision is being driven by other dumb decisions occurring at the individual level.

Edit for references: From a recently published article
"More than 90% of COVID-19 patients at AdventHealth’s hospitals are unvaccinated, and the small number of vaccinated patients with COVID-19 typically have underlying conditions such as cancer or autoimmune disease, the hospital said. "

Vaccinations are clearly the number one tool to prevent hospitalization due to COVID. Yes, it might break through with more mild symptoms, but not bad enough to go to the hospital.

Also for interesting reading
COMMENTARY: Masks-for-all for COVID-19 not based on sound data | CIDRAP (umn.edu)

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She doesn’t live in her own district.
But what makes you think her votes came from her district anyway?
:see_no_evil: :hear_no_evil: :speak_no_evil:

I think the data on Delta (say that real fast 5 times lol) is still pretty limited.

That being said, the anti-vaxxers quoting the “leaked CDC report” probably didn’t even read the fucking document. FUCK. How do you come to the conclusion that vaccines don’t work when it clearly states they do? It’s got fucking bold font with BIG PICTURES and shit. You can’t read a simple graph? Fucking idiots can call others “sheep” when they won’t even read the fucking source material their YouTube fucktards are cherry picking from.

I don’t know how accurate that document is. I’m just pissed that people won’t even fucking READ IT before spreading all sorts of nonsense. For fuck’s sake it’s like a 10 page document. They used simple words and bullet points that a fucking 12 year old can understand. You simplify it any further and it will turn into a fucking pop-up book.

High viral load amongst the vaccinated for Delta. No shit. PCR tests detect viral fragments. That’s all they fucking do. And it’s from the NOSE. They can’t tell whether they’re active, let alone how much makes it to the lungs nor the body’s immune response.

I don’t even think it was meant to be published. Not because they’re fucking hiding shit. Looks like a draft for want of more data or an internal memo. No, it has to be part of some fucking worldwide conspiracy.

Just ranting lol.

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I think you’ve just discovered how religion works.

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see also: Devin Nunes (CA-22)… but only one of these two remains the “ranking member” of a fairly important assembly within the House

(and yes, I wouldn’t even post this (silly) tit-for-tat if we weren’t in this thread)

It’s a small (and hopefully diminishing) proportion who are connecting-the-dots in this precise way

I also listen to Buck Sexton making a similar point nearly everyday – that non-N99 masks are worthless overall… and should therefore be reduced to mere ‘virtue signaling’ ??? – and think of that ‘making perfect the enemy of good’ cliche

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Get that mask on for the picture

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CSKzdJ0JTZi/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&fbclid=IwAR0cSVmi2MsuJ9xHXIy5t_athub_e9zzLZWaZmF1as9SzTHUd2njarcbcWM

I don’t see why this gets anyone upset.

Who’s upset? Its just more evidence of how full of shit she is.

I don’t see it. She’s in public with no mask. She isn’t hiding that from anyone. She puts on a mask for a photo, while no one else but one other person is wearing a mask. Obviously, it’s just a reminder that covid is still here and a way to remove any stigma with mask wearing. If she’s trying to fool people into believing she always wears a mask, then she should have been wearing it the whole time.

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People are advocating for like… Jailtime over that over here

It’s hilarious

I wear a mask in public, not an anti masker… But Jesus, thinking jail is the right way to go over people not complying with mask mandates.

How stupid are people? Incarceration has long term consequences

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This woman is a total embarrassment to the party and the country. To denigrate a large portion of the country in such a manner is stupid and dangerous. To even allege that some person living in the South would actually shoot a person for some “vaccine question” is beyond ridiculous.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-says-southerners-may-shoot-vaccination-volunteers/ar-AAMZHcr?li=BBorjTa

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They quote her in the article. Doesn’t look like she said what they claim she said, at least in what they quoted.

This is what she said, tell us what she meant.

Greene said that a vaccination volunteer might want to take down a person’s name, address, family members’ names, phone numbers and “probably ask for your social security number, whether you take the vaccine or not.”

“Yeah, well, what they don’t know is in the south we all love our Second Amendment rights,” she continued. “We’re not real big on strangers showing up on our front door, are we? They might not like the welcome they get.”

Because a southerner can’t just decline but has to, at very least based on what she said, bring a weapon into the equation? Whatever happened to southern hospitality?

Then you have this:

Afterward, Colorado Representative Lauren Boebert tweeted that Biden had “deployed his Needle Nazis.”

Both sides love calling the other Nazis. Maybe they’re both right. They are definitely appealing to the idiots.

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Exactly. I don’t know what she meant. I do know she didn’t say what they claim she said.

Edit: if it said “Marjorie Taylor Green seemingly alludes to it being a possibility that Southerners will shoot vaccination volunteers,” I wouldn’t have a problem with it.

If by hilarious you mean terrifying that people think this way…then yeah

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What’s terrifying about it? It’s like advocating for jail time for a guy that throws a punch at another, if you buy into it. Not unreasonable if you believe you have a right to not get sick.

But I agree that it’s terrifying…not surprising, though.

Holy shit! MTG is a disgrace on so many levels…

I can take people whose policy I disagree with but man… Nothing about her is right