lol … but with a tear … you’re probably right
Lol, I went on like a 12 paragraph rant about that on here a year or so ago. I’m wholly convinced you could cut a 4-year degree to 2, at least.
I am convinced that the apprenticeship model is better for my type of degree (law).
It becoming an academic subject has degraded its practical value, IMO.
Totally agree. I think the loss/decline of the apprenticeship has had a very negative impact on our workforce. A lot of professions could benefit from a real apprenticeship program. My background is accounting and we could absolutely benefit from an apprenticeship program and I bet the results would be astronomically better than any accounting program.
The civil-rights movement was a legitimate (in most folks’ minds, including yours I’m sure) response to the racism suffered by black folk. Thus, as justified attention was being paid to the injustices they experienced, an unenlightened individual might have groused at the time that ‘the country was skewed against white people.’ Well, yeah, but in a way that was both necessary and appropriate.
Likewise, so too it is with women vis a vis the issue of sexual harassment and other concerns. Are they subjected to the same level of injustice as was experienced by black folk back in the day? I would say probably not, but reasonable minds could differ on this score. Regardless, I would say it is entirely appropriate that their issues are receiving an outsized degree of attention. Speaking personally, every woman I know well enough to have discussed this matter with has been subjected to sexual harassment. Every. Single. One. I also personally know three women who were forcibly raped. I’d wager your experience re the women you know and love is similar.
Dude, look around. Check out who’s running almost everything in this country. It doesn’t pay to be male? C’mon man. That’s like saying it doesn’t pay to be white.
I don’t even know where to begin to respond to this. Were you and I havng a different conversation that I’m not remembering?
In. Many. Cases…
Not all cases.
I gave you two examples.
You may need to get your eyes checked (hardy har har)…
or are just looking to argue because:

My Grandad was a steel fixer and said ‘if Ireland stamped its feet, it could build anything. Since the disastrous push to have everyone at University, we have had skyrocketing personal debt, a worsened workforce, and a ravaged trade base.
We could stamp our feet in a tantrum now, at best. It really frustrates me too. My Grandfather bought a home and raised two kids to a better life on a trade, it saddens me that people look down on it.
I’ve never understood this mentality. I love tradesmen. My house wouldn’t be standing without them…
One of my best friends is a plumber who can diagnose issues in a house’s piping at a glance.
He works for himself, and takes pride in it. If the apocalypse comes, he’ll be useful, but not me lol.
An increasing shift between the “haves” and the “have not’s” with a multi generational push towards academia. This led to a downward spiral when the cost associated with academia took longer and longer to work off. Sprinkle in a general public disrespect towards manual labor and BOOM, no more trades.
Fwiw, the vast majority of my family pushed all of us towards trade programs/fields. It wasn’t until ~high school that my parents accepted me going to college instead of trade school.
Edit: for clarity, my family considers nursing a “trade” field. vast majority of the women in my family were either steered towards that or housewife life.
Are you suggesting that the incidence of such cases is remotely on a par with the incidence of cases where it doesn’t pay to be female?
Hold please, I need to check my database that lists all the times it does not pays to be male vs. the times it doesn’t pay to be female. It might take a bit since I haven’t built it, yet.
I’ll leave you with your silly meme…
Lol, I mean, I get it… I was being purposefully, what’s the word thrown around here a lot, pedantic.
Silly?
Maybe I was wrong–perhaps you don’t know any women who have been raped. Or more likely, they simply haven’t told you. Either way, I pray you’re never put into the position of being forced to feel ashamed for calling this meme ‘silly,’ because it is anything but.
Dude, I don’t know what your issue is today… I’m not saying rape is silly. I’m saying the meme is silly. What I should have said is this meme is stupid because it is.
Don’t give up hope just yet. I don’t know if this translates nationally but locally we’ve seen a pretty strong resurgence of trade programs. One of our local high schools recently expanded on it’s trade programs in a pretty hefty way.
Recently they’ve added bookkeeping (not sure if I’d call it “accounting”), IT (from what I hear it’s almost exclusively hardware focused), and even a video/photo editing section.
These new “academic trades” or whatever they’re calling them can speed you through to getting an associate’s in 1 semester.
What’s stupid about it? It makes two claims–do you find one and/or the other so incorrect as to render the whole thing ‘silly’ and ‘stupid’? I sincerely don’t understand your objection to it.
The majority of rapes don’t happen while a woman is just taking a stroll down the street. Rape is a serious issue, we don’t need nonsense meme’s mucking it up.
Maybe some men fear prison because they might be raped…
The whole thing is dumb.
The meme makes no claim about where rapes occur; it simply points out that being raped is the greatest fear a woman has while she’s walking down the street. I think that’s probably a fair claim.
It says that being raped is what men fear most about prison. Speaking for myself, it is a correct statement, and I dare say most men who would concur. Again, IMO a fair claim.
So now the whole thing is “nonsense” and “dumb.” Are you sure you’re not simply having some sort of visceral reaction to it? Maybe you’re just anti-meme in general, and consider their use hackneyed and trite? (Serious speculation–not trolling.) Because I gotta say, you have yet to articulate a compelling case against it.
