Maybe your hallways are just significantly longer than mine. I’ve never lived in a home where I’d have more than a 15ft line of sight for the shot.
I would expect a very small % of LEO bullets are missing at 15 ft. That’s fucking terrifying. I’m not a crack shot, but I’m nowhere near THAT incompetent. And I don’t even own a gun.
I’d prefer if he’s not competent enough to operate a gun, he not point it directly at his child, as that’s what would have to happen for the kid to die. Maybe that stems from having 2 children and correctly valuing their lives. Guns aren’t toys.
In both situations (Alabama & your scenario), the incompetence of the parent directly caused the death. But no charges when it’s the actual parent pulling the trigger?
From the article I posted:
“Hit ratios were below 30 percent for gunfights (18 percent) and from long ranges (23 percent from more than seven yards away). However, in cases where suspects did not return fire, NYPD officers hit their targets 30 percent of the time. Accuracy levels were above 30 percent when the target was seven yards away or closer (37 percent).”
How many shots have you fired in defense?
I doubt the intruder would stand still and allow him time to get into perfect position.
Correct value of child’s life=allow armed intruder to enter child’s room and do what he pleases. Got it.
Nope. The Alabama fetal death was caused by mom’s reckless behavior. Scenario child was not killed by either reckless behavior by parent, or by gross negligence (Legal Dictionary | Law.com).
None personally. As I said, I don’t own a gun. You?
Seems while the legality would call it defense, there’s a sea of difference between firing as a target moving away from you, and one moving toward you IRT “firing in defense.”
Correct value of child’s life=don’t point a gun directly at your child if you aren’t competent with the gun. Guns aren’t toys.
Scenario child had a gun pointed directly at him/her, while stationary, by parent. Happy to admit they’re both at fault, but obviously I’m not going to say the parent who pointed a gun directly at their child and intentionally pulled the trigger wasn’t being negligent.
Happy to agree to disagree. Have a good one. Props to Alabama. Further down an already deep gutter she goes. Thank God for Atlanta being a trade hub.
Not using a turn signal does not lead to a wreck. Something else does. Following too closely, failing to yield right-of-way, failure to maintain proper control, etc.
Not alerting other drivers you’re changing lanes could absolutely lead to wrecks. If I’m following you and decide to pass and you decide to pass the vehicle in front?
You’re assuming that the parent knew exactly where the child was in the dark and the child wasn’t moving. What if they called the cops and the cops accidentally shot the kid? Are the cops liable?
You speak of the added pressures of firing a gun in self defense, and proceed to post about LEO hit rates to back it up. While I wholeheartedly admit an LEO situation is damn near guaranteed to be more stressful than your average Joe, it is that way because the LEO can be in imminent danger himself. The fight or flight response triggered by your own life being under threat is second to absolutely nothing.
To give the parent, who pointed his gun directly at his own child and pulled the trigger, extra leeway on ‘negligence’ because the kid is in danger doesn’t jive anywhere near with LEOs and someone who is themself in life threatening danger.
LEOs are given more leeway due to the nature of their job. Are we now saying the guy in your scenario is an on duty LEO?
The child was in bed. That was the scenario. Are we to expect the parent doesn’t know where the child’s bed is within the room?
To me? Abso-fucking-lutely. If I call the police to a scene at my house, and they proceed to pull the trigger on my child, you bet your ass I hold them liable.
While the law would give them extra leeway, and probably a medal, because they’re LEOs, I’d still bury someone in the woods for killing my kid.
You don’t believe scenario parent had a right to prevent armed intruder guy from going after his kid.
You said you don’t own a firearm, but are now going to bury a police officer for hitting your child after you called him to protect your child?
I think you don’t understand the difference between criminal and civil law. If I’m not mistaken, you have made arguments in other threads that have also led me to believe that. I’m not faulting you for not knowing, but you may want to read up on it.