You mean downstairs in the game room?
Because usmc has correctly found the assault on fatherhood we’re currently under seige from and I took the bait
When I hear duality, I think separation. Of course, in Eastern thought duality is bad.
I just skimmed the article you attached and I think that isn’t duality, I think it’s balance.
An explanation of chakras might be in order to understand balance and oneness, as I see it.
However, I think this might fit better in my woo woo thread so I will post it there - to not clog up this thread and to revive that thread - selfish as fuck, duality, lol.
It’s no longer a father/daughter dance. The special occasion is gone.
And that changes the dynamic?
I’ll admit, as a father with 2 daughters that actually attends dances, this response is a joke lol
It’s actually a natural state of equilibrium. Balance is right. One extreme requires the other to exist. Like Batman and the Joker.
Yes. Maybe, not for you though.
That’s because you don’t care about this scenario. Apply the same situation to another scenario, which you care about, and the response applies.
Again, why must people change due to 100% inclusion, when the inconvenience is 3 minutes. If it’s permanent exclusion or severe exclusion, okay, reasonable accommodations.
I think it changes the dynamic of the event and for some fathers an event like this is one of the few times they have their daughters complete attention.
I don’t have girls, but I’m pretty confident I wouldn’t step between my wife and one of our boys in a similar situation. Why would I take that moment from her and I don’t think it’s fair someone else’s feeling should trump her’s either.
Do you know of a father with his daughter that it does change things for? I’ll admit it sounds awful snowflakey
Why would I care about a change that doesn’t impact me or my daughter? Why would any dad?
I would imagine letting mom’s into the dance is much cheaper/easier than throwing a subsequent dance for every combo of kid/parent, but just spitballing tbh
Edit: and why in God’s name is it not a reasonable accommodation to let the kids without dads bring their moms. The shit?
LOL. Youve clearly got a twisted idea of these dances. Try attending one. Just once
Would your wife be upset if one of his friends was dancing with his dad instead of mom? Serious question
Also in the article, they were also encouraged to stand to the side and take pictures … regardless, it’s still a father daughter dance “meant to grant fathers, uncles, and grandfathers bonding time…” - I could give a shit where the mother decides to hang out, sounds like, to me, this lady who’s complaining has a tough time not being the center of the universe
haha … fair enough
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Funny, you wrote this while I was composing in my woo woo thread - same idea.
I can’t for one second think about being offended or giving a shit if a mom is at a father/daughter dance. Personally I think the whole “debate” is worthy of the stupid thread.
Snowflake, triggered, liberal media, alt right, incel, whatever other words we need to make it more fun.
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You have this weird habit of assuming your experience is everyone’s experience. I just told you my brother-in-law took one of his girls to a father-daughter dance, they took pictures/did the corsage thing, and he told me it was a great time. The man works 60+ hours and barely sees his kids during the week. If he’s lucky he isn’t working on Saturdays. It was a rare opportunity for him to bond with her away from his wife and other kids. In short, it’s a special opportunity for a father like him to be with his daughter.
I don’t know, I’d have to ask her. I think the point is that it’s very unlikely that it’ll be just one dad dancing with one son, but will become just another all-inclusive dance that isn’t special at all.
Absolutely. It’s sentimental.
Let’s not change definitions of words here. Having a sentimental moment with your daughter does not make you a snowflake.
It doesn’t impact you, in that you don’t care about the dance.
Because they care about what it means.
It’d be even easier to not have any special dances.
Doing so undermines the nature of the special occasion, no?
What part of this goes away letting mom’s in? Serious question
I guess dances just can’t be special if you aren’t excluding people
It was the mom that was offended because Muh Feelings.
Yeah I think it’s all pretty lame. Fuck we’re talking about some picture opportunity where people dance with 5-8 year old girls? Who gives a flying fuck who is there or not.
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Why is it less sentimental if mom’s are present? I’m confused
The inability to have a sentimental moment because some other kid brought their mom sure does
Riiiiight
Probably. But then everyone loses. Letting mom’s in means the only people that lose are the dad’s who can’t figure out how to bond with their daughter when another kids mom is there
Nope. Not even a little!
The decisions aren’t made due to market forces. They are due to “public response,” in the way that the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
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Your kids don’t favor their mother?
I bond more with my boys when their mother isn’t around. We have a great time as a family, don’t get me wrong, but moms have and will always, generally, have a special place in a kids heart. Maybe your situation is different, but most of the dads I’ve talked to feel the same way.
As soon as the dance goes from father-daughter to everyone-daughter dad’s get stuck holding the coats, hugging the wall, and getting punch while mommy and the kids bond. That’s just how it is in my experience.
It won’t be special for the dad anymore that’s for sure.
Right, but that’s okay because who cares about dads.
Youngest daughter does. older is all mine haha
So if you’re worried about that… Could you leave your wife at home?
Edit: is all of this because you’d be worried someone elses mom is going to come dance with your daughter?
Why not?
