The pimpology thing was bullshit. But if it works on TV, so be it. Who fucks in a police station (“Attorner-client privilege?” LOL)? I hope Tina gets fired or killed. The way she broke down when she saw Lem all fucked up was just stupid.
I don’t think you got what I was saying.
Of course it’s stupid, but what you’re not seeing is that it was put in there as a plot device to get Dutch thinking about how to get into Tina’s pants. Part of the running theme with Dutch has been his utter lack of game and his incompetence with women - part of the reason why he hates Vic so much.
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I’m with you on the plot contrivence, but the whole pimp-who’ dynamic made sense to me. Then again, maybe you “playas” know something that this white boy don’t.
Perhaps you could explain to me how we’re seeing an epidemic of upper-middle class teens and others “turned” to prostitution. Share with us your own great pimpology knowledge, please.
Perhaps you could explain to me how we’re seeing an epidemic of upper-middle class teens and others “turned” to prostitution. Share with us your own great pimpology knowledge, please.[/quote]
the U.S. is very sexually repressed - we now live in a time (with the internet) where it’s fairly easy to expose your “dark side” with a fraction of the social stigma those girls would have gotten if they were doing it in an earlier time. Those desires have always been there, the difference is that society is now giving them an outlet to express it.
The pimp was saying that his upper-middle class white ho - had been dumped by her fiance for a younger, hotter model - she needed validation and the pimp give it to her - he preyed on her total lack of self-esteemed and hooked her enough to where she thought “he was God and couldn’t live without it him” - then to exert total control “you take it away, and they’ll do anything you want to get it back.” Fucking twisted, but it does seem to work on some women.
The writers scratched the surface on some interesting shit - let’s see how they play it out with Dutch and Tina next season.
I didn’t cry when Lem died, but not because I’m a badass, but because it honestly shocked me to my core. My buddy and I sat there staring at eachother not knowing what to say or what to do.
I keep thinking about what happened to him, and it is a little troubling that a television show can affect my emotions on the level that this has. I have watched the show from the beginning, and obviously have quite the emotional investment in the characters.
I hate Shane’s guts, no doubt… but you have to understand his reasoning.
Aceveda said that the police commission gave him a deal to make the whole thing go away. They just wanted the it to be over. When Kavanaugh heard this, he gave a stupid, lazy-eye look and excused himself, presumably to try and catch Lem before he gave himself up.
Shane is fucking stupid. The least he could’ve done was get an “okay” from Vic and the other guy before he went through with it. I thought that pimpology thing was cool myself and it’s nice to see the the nice guy (Dutch) about to bang Tina (it’s gonna happen).
I don’t know how forensics work or if this is even plausible, but I thought that they might link the shrapnel\shell casing from the murder scene to the Strike Team, after they figure out that a) those columbians didn’t do it and b) Vic and his team raided and confiscated those grenades when they were supposed to wait for backup.
is season 6 the last season? If not, i dont see them killing off Shane. I dont see how you can continue with just Vic and Gardoki. It will be very hard to replace Lem, let alone both Lem and Shane. I dont see them doing it unless its a series finale.
What shane did was brilliant. No one can touch him now. The only way he can get busted is if he gives it up. That’s going to be his dilemma in season 6. He is going to watch Vic go on a rampage knowing all thsoe dying are innocent.
But wow…that scene with the gernade was some of the best acting i’ve seen.
[quote]Diomede wrote:
is season 6 the last season? If not, i dont see them killing off Shane. I dont see how you can continue with just Vic and Gardoki. It will be very hard to replace Lem, let alone both Lem and Shane. I dont see them doing it unless its a series finale.
What shane did was brilliant. No one can touch him now. The only way he can get busted is if he gives it up. That’s going to be his dilemma in season 6. He is going to watch Vic go on a rampage knowing all thsoe dying are innocent.
But wow…that scene with the gernade was some of the best acting i’ve seen.[/quote]
I agree. Whatever that guy’s name is who plays Shane, he was pretty goddamn good. You knew he was a loose cannon and something bad was going to happen, but you didn’t know what.
Unbelievable. I was definitly upset. Between this and the Sopranos, I’m getting far too entwined in TV drama…very unlike me. I think I gotta go read a book or something…
And Vic WILL kill Shane. It almost came down to it last year. It will happen this coming year.
[quote]spartanpower wrote:
O/T: Did anybody else see Michael Chiklis in the Seinfeld reruns on TBS last night? He definitely made a smart move going with the shaved head. He also looks weird when he’s not being a hardass.[/quote]
Aceveda said that the police commission gave him a deal to make the whole thing go away. They just wanted the it to be over. When Kavanaugh heard this, he gave a stupid, lazy-eye look and excused himself, presumably to try and catch Lem before he gave himself up.[/quote]
but did they? I thought that original deal was off the table the minute he didn’t show, and if he did turn himself in he was going to have offer more than just himself. I think that was the point Kavanaugh and Aceveda were driving at - this is where it gets sketchy - they never flesh it out - what was the new deal going to be? The lawyer was pushing for the old deal and the cops wanted a modified deal where presumably Lem would offer up the rest of the Strike Team - however, if I recall correctly, they never really clarified and let the misunderstanding play itself out (in a rather tragic fashion)
But my feeling is that it was really irrelevant - I think most cops with a Lem type background would have probably gotten the hell out of dodge, especially if the very guys he was trying to protect were the ones setting up the escape.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Diomede wrote:
is season 6 the last season? If not, i dont see them killing off Shane. I dont see how you can continue with just Vic and Gardoki. It will be very hard to replace Lem, let alone both Lem and Shane. I dont see them doing it unless its a series finale.
What shane did was brilliant. No one can touch him now. The only way he can get busted is if he gives it up. That’s going to be his dilemma in season 6. He is going to watch Vic go on a rampage knowing all thsoe dying are innocent.
But wow…that scene with the gernade was some of the best acting i’ve seen.
I agree. Whatever that guy’s name is who plays Shane, he was pretty goddamn good. You knew he was a loose cannon and something bad was going to happen, but you didn’t know what.
Unbelievable. I was definitly upset. Between this and the Sopranos, I’m getting far too entwined in TV drama…very unlike me. I think I gotta go read a book or something…
And Vic WILL kill Shane. It almost came down to it last year. It will happen this coming year. [/quote]
I changed my mind. I think Vic and Shane had this planned as a backup from when they heard about the grenade delivery. When they busted the shipment, I highly doubt Shane was smart enough to plan this his own let alone save a grendae for a rainy day. That is also why Vic had him leave the station last because he knew he wouldn’t have a tail. Also told Roni to call Shane and meet up at the other place in case he had some heat when he could have easily made the call himself. Shane also could have easily called Vic when he was talking to Lem. But the way it played out leaves them pretty much with an alibi. Couple that with Aceveda ordering Vic to shut up Lem means he can’t and won’t pursue the strike team. I bet there are some more subtle clues in that last episode I missed.
Unbelievable. I was definitly upset. Between this and the Sopranos, I’m getting far too entwined in TV drama…very unlike me. I think I gotta go read a book or something…
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Tell me about it. I go from watching no TV to being glued to the fucking thing for 2 hours a week and thinking about the damn shows all the time. I think that just speaks to the quality of the shows.
[quote]Mike Mahler wrote:
I thought that season 5 was great. Season 4 started great and then was anticlimatic. Season 3 sucked and seasons 1 and 2 were some of the best that television has ever had.
I like Season 5 as it did not have some campy ending where everything goes back to normal. Karma caught up with the Strike team and horrible decisions were made. The season finale was incredible and I was in awe as I watched it. How often does that happen watching TV? barely ever.
That said, 24 is the best show on TV right now and blows The Shield out of the water.
Mike Mahler [/quote]
24 and The Shield are the only 2 shows I watch religiously!
So … Bauer Vs. Mackey, who wins?
I’m taking Bauer, unless I see Mackey cut someone’s head off.
Unbelievable. I was definitly upset. Between this and the Sopranos, I’m getting far too entwined in TV drama…very unlike me. I think I gotta go read a book or something…
Tell me about it. I go from watching no TV to being glued to the fucking thing for 2 hours a week and thinking about the damn shows all the time. I think that just speaks to the quality of the shows.[/quote]
I guess it could be worse. It could be American Idol and Desperate Housewives.
Fuck me, just light me on fire if I ever even mention those two shows again…
[quote]Ryu13 wrote:
spartanpower wrote:
O/T: Did anybody else see Michael Chiklis in the Seinfeld reruns on TBS last night? He definitely made a smart move going with the shaved head. He also looks weird when he’s not being a hardass.
Who did he play in Seinfeld?[/quote]
Chiklis played a guy who had a party at his house out in the suburbs that 3 of them went to. Jerry and Elaine got stranded out there late into the night waiting for Kramer to pick them up. Jerry told Chiklis to look him up when he came into the city. When Chiklis showed up at his door, Jerry was leaving. Chiklis stayed in Jerry’s apartment and got drunk with Kramer. They ordered a hooker, and then left Jerry with the bill.