Shaved in the shower. With and then against the grain. It works. No razor burns either*. Not what I expected, given my sensitive skin.
(* And this is using the cheapest, and ironically longest lasting ever, twin blades available for my Gilette Sensor Excel. Something like $3.50 for 5, and lasts a year.)
Shave was not perfect, most probably because the blades still had residues from my previous oil shave experiment. (By the way, no outbreaks either.) I’ll try tomorrow with a new (cheap) blade.
[quote]Vegita wrote:
Blood is Metal wrote:
Agreed.
Biggest. Scam. Ever.
(Next to auto insurance.)
You have obviously never been in an accident where it was your fault and someone was seriously injured. The problem is people use it like an auto repair mechanism instead of for the bigger claims, so everyone suffers.
V[/quote]
Well, no, admittedly I have not. But I have to imagine that the vast majority of people that pay the premiums their entire lives will never reap any of the benefits of it. I for one have only submitted one $1100 claim in the 15 years I’ve been driving and it was for hail damage. That’s less than what I would pay them in one year (average).
It would be nice if more companies rewarded customers with good driving records. I know some do, but I don’t really know to what extent. Or, maybe if there were a cap on what a person should have to pay in a lifetime of premiums.
I dunno, I guess this is the definition of “insurance” isn’t it? Keep paying for it because you never know…
If anyone has any more insight / stats on this, I’d be happy to learn. (Guess we should do this in another thread, though. Or I’d be happy to host in my comments section of MyT-Nation. Hijack was not intended.)
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I use soap and a Mach 3. Why buy foam?[/quote]
Back when I subscribed to that certain magazine called Mens Health, I think they had an article that said that shaving cream is basically “fluffy soap,” or something like that, but it’s just a type of soap.
I’ll give this a try as well.
And one other thing - supposedly the only purpose of shaving cream, or at least the original purpose back when it was first designed - is to hold water against your skin. So it’s the water that’s the important lubricating agent. It’s only the “new fangled” shave creams that have all the emolients and stuff. If you have the patience to constantly keep your face wet, then you can probably do without the cream. I currently use the Edge gel but I’m willing to give this a try. I hate shaving, and anything that simplifies the process is a good thing.
day 2 - i didn’t shave today. i still have some some pinhead scabs on my neck as well as razor bumps/slight rash from yesterday. nothing horrible but it’s too uncomfortable to try shaving again. the mach 3 is getting hungry though, i can feel it.
hungry for blood.
you know, given how my neck feels like i took a cheese grater to it, and realizing how frickn inexpensive shave cream is - like 6 bucks a year …how much of a scam can it really be ? the scam is those goddamn razor blades.
any one try those blade preserving systems that make the blades last 10 times longer because they’re not exposed to air ? now that would save some cash.
[quote]Blood is Metal wrote:
It would be nice if more companies rewarded customers with good driving records. I know some do, but I don’t really know to what extent. Or, maybe if there were a cap on what a person should have to pay in a lifetime of premiums.[/quote]
Most auto insurance companies will raise your rates for a 10-over-the-limit speeding ticket, even though studies have shown that people who drive at that speed have the fewest number of accidents. (I’ve seen the full report with the charts and graphs, but I couldn’t find it with a quick search. Here is a reference: The Facade Crumbles) People who drive at the speed limit have terrible accident rates, primarily because driving at a different speed from the majority of the drivers on the road creates a hazard. Also, and this is my own theory, some poor drivers are very timid, and therefor tend to drive slowly.
So, an insurance company raising your rates because of a 10-over-the-limit ticket is pure bull. They should be rewarding you for that. 20-over-the-limit is a different story, of course.
[quote]TheWookie wrote:
Is there a toothpaste racket too? Toilet paper racket? Ricky Racket? Any other rackets?[/quote]
Toothpaste alternatives: Good Sense Homemade Dental Formulas
[quote]MrChill wrote:
Toothpaste alternatives: http://www.mizar5.com/keyes.html[/quote]
This guy is all about killing the harmful bacteria in your mouth, but these methods will wipe out the “good” bacteria as well. More targeted antibiotics, vaccination, etc. hold more promise.
http://www.healthdecisions.org/Dental/News/default.aspx?doc_id=63044
I’m not reading all that trash. Those who don’t use shaving cream I bet have butt ugly faces.
what I hate is the toilet paper racket. Its a scam. Stop using it.
[quote]swivel wrote:
you know, given how my neck feels like i took a cheese grater to it, and realizing how frickn inexpensive shave cream is - like 6 bucks a year …how much of a scam can it really be ? the scam is those goddamn razor blades.
any one try those blade preserving systems that make the blades last 10 times longer because they’re not exposed to air ? now that would save some cash.[/quote]
I agree that the cost of shaving cream is a complete non-issue. In my case, the “racket” isn’t about cost, it’s about getting a good shave. I’m more than willing to spend money on a product that gives a good shave, provided it gives a good shave with minimal irritation. I think that was the point of the article - that you can get a better shave, with less irritation, by not using shaving cream.
BTW - I tried conditioner. It sucked.
[quote]larryb wrote:
MrChill wrote:
Toothpaste alternatives: Good Sense Homemade Dental Formulas
This guy is all about killing the harmful bacteria in your mouth, but these methods will wipe out the “good” bacteria as well. More targeted antibiotics, vaccination, etc. hold more promise.
http://www.healthdecisions.org/Dental/News/default.aspx?doc_id=63044[/quote]
Good stuff. I would agree … in a lobby-free world. We can land a man on the moon, but can’t solve technological issues related to cavities? I’m skeptical.
[quote]TheWookie wrote:
So that’s the the story behind real oral health. Hmmm.
MrChill wrote:
TheWookie wrote:
Is there a toothpaste racket too? Toilet paper racket? Ricky Racket? Any other rackets?
Toothpaste alternatives: http://www.mizar5.com/keyes.html[/quote]
Check out this one:
[i]The net result is that, not only is it not stopping the cause, but it is damaging the roots of the teeth besides. So it is up to you to decide which way you want to go, if you want to pay a little attention and put on a little effort, you can enjoy a state of what is called biologic balance in your mouth. And if the depth of the pocket is not enjoying the same state of biologic balance, then that “neck of the tooth disease” is marching way down the neck of the tooth headed right for the tip of the tooth and, by the time it gets about two-thirds of the way down there, your teeth are going to start wobbling around. There is not enough bone left to hold the teeth in place. But, you can grow new bone, and grow it right back up the neck of the tooth again.
In October, 1977, the Journal of the American Academy of Dentists, tells all about the bone growing right back up the necks of the teeth.[/i]
How to Enjoy Healthy Teeth & Gums (Gum neck and tooth problems section)
Shower shave this morning, after a 2-day break, using a new El Cheapo blade, going by and against the grain for that baby face feel. Same results as with cream, but problem areas (chin, jaw corners) have some stubble (1-pass only, still cautious).
Nice to see that one can get the same results without any chemicals.
Experimented yesterday…
I normally use a shaving oil. Costs ?4 and lasts for months. I mean months, maybe a year. I slap a couple drops under my palmolive shaving cream from a tube (pisses on anything in a can) and it helps the glide. Well - hey presto baby oil worked great as a substitute under the cream. Still, id recommend old school badger hair brush, and the stuff out the tube to lather up with. Its no scam.
[quote]MrChill wrote:
Shower shave this morning, after a 2-day break, using a new El Cheapo blade, going by and against the grain for that baby face feel. Same results as with cream, but problem areas (chin, jaw corners) have some stubble (1-pass only, still cautious).
Nice to see that one can get the same results without any chemicals.[/quote]
i did virtually the same thing. 2 day beard plus shave in the shower. the shave was better than the first time, but it always is after 2 days. i’d give the shave a 7 out of ten this time. but the experience kinda sucked…not that comfortable alot slower/more careful than w/ foam.
i can see the process getting faster, but i don’t see it getting more comfortable than. i also don’t see the quality of shave getting any better than today.
anyone in the marines where they give you like 1 minute to shit shower and shave ? does it get better or have you gone back to foam ?
[quote]swivel wrote:
i can see the process getting faster, but i don’t see it getting more comfortable than. i also don’t see the quality of shave getting any better than today.
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I’ll keep up the expirement to see how my skin adapts. My face now has the same look and feel as when I did the foam + moisturizer (oil/glycerin) experience. Interesting.
If it works, maybe I’ll find the courage to try to … well … other special places. ;0)
I tried the baby oil. Good shave. As close, if not closer, as shaving cream. I did feel more “pulling” on the hairs. I guess that’s part of the secret of getting a close shave - draw the hair out of the follicle to get a closer cut.
[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:
I tried the baby oil. Good shave. As close, if not closer, as shaving cream. I did feel more “pulling” on the hairs. I guess that’s part of the secret of getting a close shave - draw the hair out of the follicle to get a closer cut. [/quote]
I agree. There’s also probably some numbing agent in the cream/foam. Maybe. I feel my face a lot more than before, and not just after shaving.