The Push to 2020 Has Begun!

I didn’t mention the GOP, did I?

I don’t think I know everything though. There’s a distinct difference there. I stated I know about Australian conservatives and made the clear distinction that I didn’t know nearly enough about American conservatism

I’m willing to admit where my knowledge lacks. Theres a word called a chochem (Yiddish) referring to someone who thinks he knows it all. But I don’t consider myself to be above standard.

My ideologies are certainly open to changing as my age progresses. I’ve been surprised to find recently by talking to adults that many were progressives/left wing as they were young, but with age they’ve turned farther to the right. Whether this is due to a shift in political spectrum or due to life experience I’m unsure. Given that I lack life experience I tend to base my ideologies (say drug reform/criminal justice reform) based on

  • what I’ve seen
  • what science dictates

Though basing an opinion entirely on science can be flawed. I should clarify I’ve travelled extensively… I’ve been all around the world (parents work… but it’s not feasible for us to travel with said parent so now this parent is gone a little under half of the year every year and has been for a while), I’ve lived in two countries, been to six different schools. I’m what one would consider “worldly”. This isn’t a brag, it’s to indicate that I’m somewhat cultured compared to my peers. I dislike this notion that because I’m a kid I don’t know shit and I must think that I know everything. That’s not a good arguement to make, Ive admitted where my shortcomings fall

  • social ques
  • I don’t understand American politics well (though I’m well versed regarding traditional American culture). We didn’t celebrate thanksgiving though. I’ve been to a thanksgiving dinner once or twice though.
  • I’m not normal/quirky (this is 100% a shortcoming to me)

There are many things I don’t know much about, I know very little about firearms, I couldn’t distinguish a model/make if you handed me two different handguns

Some think I’m intentionally being a smartass, this isn’t the impression I try to make. I type and express my opinions the way I do because I’m autistic (somewhat detail orientated) and I have ADHD that I don’t take medication for (mind fires a million miles per minute)

What are they? What should I learn about to understand them. And regardless I’d still like to understand American conservatism for future reference, future candidates etc

I could share my political journey but that would be a long post I don’t have time to write. In very simple terms I became a conservative by paying attention to the connection between policies and outcomes, especially over longer time frames.

Sowell can give you insight to this as well. He’s a reformed Marxist.

I’ll bite. Based on what?

American conservatism is a myth. It currently doesn’t exist in almost any form within the two major parties. Trump may be further away from conservatism than any Democrat president ever.

If that were true what’s stopping all of the pie-in-the-sky policies from moving ahead at all levels of government?

Thank you for the advice, I’ll certainly look into them both

If you’re interested (because I’m certainly interested) you can send me an email (bio had my email address)

I don’t have the luxury to know the connection to policy > outcome besides looking at statistical data as I’m very young and thus can’t exactly I’ve been around long enough to view the benefits/consequences stemming from many policies. I’ve seen that the cavity searching of kids in NSW certainly doesn’t accomplish much. I understand watching as one ages, watching outcomes implimented for certain policies may change political opinion. But with regards to conservative ideologies I don’t understand two things in particular

  • marijuana
  • climate change

Marijiana isn’t heroin… I’m sorry but it just isn’t, thus people shouldn’t be penalised for it as it were. The tough on crime approach with this stuff from what I’ve observed statistically and observationally doesn’t work, though I do believe youth are now less likely to report drug use to adults/government surveys in Aus given how cautious we now tend to be (which leads to riskier behaviour but thats a different story. Statistically 40% of 18-24 year olds in Tasmania have recently used illicit drugs, that’s 40% of the populace you’re criminalising. I know kids who have been caught a FEW times (each individual), been penalised greatly… it doesn’t stop them, it doesn’t even serve as a deterrent.

Young people are stupid, and they shouldn’t be smoking pot or doing drugs… neither should adults, but for those below say the age of seventeen the net impact is incredibly detrimental, and it has a net impact on neurological development up until say the age of 24, but the vast majority of the damage appears to be induced if below age 17… but young people do this anyway. There are kids here who are using crystal methamphetamine aged fourteen! Something needs to be done, yet prison time isn’t the correct answer. If we can’t keep this shit out of prisons how can one expect to keep it off the streets?

Throwing people in jail for a substance less toxic than alcohol doesn’t make a shred of sense to me

Secondly, climate change… to significantly look at the consequences we need to wait another few decades, yet the science currently exists regarding a trend of temperatures rising, ice caps melting, species going extinct at an alarming rate etc… how can we just dismiss this. The Australian bushfires this year were the worst they’ve EVER been in recorded history (as in human recorded). The smoke outside my house (on the farm) was so bad I couldn’t run 100m without coughing and hacking, it legitimately looked post apocalyptic

I’ve got a pic of the smoke stemming from distant bushfires covering the vicinity around my farm, if you want I can send it to you via email

In regards to MJ policy, I am calling BS. You need to prove this assertion. The federal government’s policy has not become more progressive. The states that have legalized MJ are mostly through ballot measures. Some of the passing of those measures was driven by high turnout in response to the trump presidency in the 2018 midterm election. Jeff Sessions made several threats to state law in regards to MJ, basically saying the trump admin did not care about state rights when it comes to MJ. This did not come to fruition, but for a time slowed down the legal industry as it was a threat.

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Progress is progress.

Call bullshit all you want, wave your flag, the statement stands.

How you feel doesn’t change when things happened.

His blabbering that nearly everything is “racist,” including the CJS. No nuance, no in depth comprehensive studying of, no looking at facts; i.e. incarceration rates accurately reflect crime reporting rates, every person in jail / prison had a trial or plea, etc…He wants minorities only to be able to sell legalized marijuana. His embracing of the psychotic hate filled cretinesque (my word) BLM movement, etc…

Essentially I can see him lending faux credibility to this nonsense and emboldening the low information types that want so badly to believe America is this horribly racist place.

That’s my take.

Wasn’t it some leftoid weirdos that started the fires ??

You’re trolling… right?

The majority of the fires were started by

  • lightning
  • Australia was having it’s hottest and driest year on record, fire conditions were peak
  • a few cases of arson but a good 95% + of the fires stemmed from “natural causes.”

We’ve been having a growing trend of longer, more dangerous bushfire seasons, unprecedented droughts and extremely hot temps (say 130 degrees for a few days in a row within certain towns).

We had 1 billion + animals die, entire towns/islands wiped out (unprecedented), numerous civilians, firefighters and volunteer firefighters are dead, extremely abysmal air quality compared to that of smoking over a pack of cigarettes per day… 20% of all forestation within Aus was wiped out this year

The “200 arsonists” theory was a conspiracy theory (actually further pushed by the far right here, those who wished to deny climate having any involvement)… the theory was debunked because it wasn’t true.

And the liberal government (here liberal equates to being conservative) did very little, as a matter of fact the president of Aus went to Hawaii, in secret during the time of which these fires blazed on… his approval rating has dropped substantially in wake of the bushfires. Scott Morrison is (to me) the Donald Trump of Australia (although not quite as bad).

Australian politics over the past six years have been somewhat of a joke, we’ve had five PM’s in the past six years, I think that might even move up to six if Scotty can’t get his act together. Currently the overwhelming majority of the public despise him…

I don’t troll, kid. I had actually heard that. That’s why I asked. Calm down. You always come across as enraged or beside yourself.

I care deeply for our environment and wildlife. I’d hate to think some shit stain on humanity would deliberately do this, but never know.

I’m not enraged? I think you’ve misunderstood the tone of my voice within my post.

Emotionally regarding the above post I’m very blunt, listing off facts

Fair enough, man.

What made the fires even worse was the fact that atmospheric conditions were conducive for thunderstorm development in response to updraft, atmospheric instability (cool vs hot air from fires), convection occurs, cumulonimbus form (absent of rainfall though)… the result is lightning, perfect fire conditions, fires already raging on etc. It really was “the perfect storm”

Dry thunderstorms can occur, they’re rare… and catastrophic in fire prone areas, just as a tornado absent of a severe thunderstorm/mesocyclone can occur (landspouts)

Nature is truly bizarre but who are we to argue it ? I really believe the earth, nature, etc… are “aware,” if you will, and self corrects from time to time.

Craziest thing (you can look at the footage) is the “fire tornados” that occur, destructive spirals of wind full of fire. It’s beautiful… though that may be insensitive of me to say given how many people lost their homes

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Wow. Definitely a sight to behold.

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Progress despite the trump admin? I also disagree that legalization has taken the biggest steps forward with the trump admin in power. Please prove that? The states that legalized via ballot measure during the 2016 election do not count as trump was not in power.

I do not accept your assertion. What can be asserted without proof can dismissed without proof.