You have to forget that pat suffers from brain damage. This is not a joke. He has admitted it.
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Pretty sure he just finds articles off right wing websites and assumes it’s all golden. He’s done that so many times I’m not sure it’s not on purpose anymore.
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What could be proved by the graph?
People with money and power use both to ensure they get more of both?
Companies (which are drivers of gdp) are based in cities (mostly blue)?
Working class doing exact same jobs deserve far less wage in red areas?
Government workers and assistance recepients are concentrated in blue areas (which increases gdp due to spending)?
It just says little about the attribution of change, particularly over a short 10 years
A couple of things:
Democratic districts’ median household income has risen this past decade—from $54,000 in 2008 to $61,000 in 2018. Conversely, the income level in Republican districts went from being higher in 2008, but has since declined from $55,000 to $53,000. But, to me, that biggest thing is that the districts went from near parity (didn’t matter much if it was democratic or republican-run) to a huge gap in favor of democratic-run districts.
I’m not saying this gap is good, but clearly shows that it’s simply not true that where democrats are in charge the economy is in shambles. In fact, the alternate statement could be argued much more compellingly. The educated and those with in-demand skills are not flocking to rural Wyoming, but are seeking out urban centers that are under, gasp, democratic rule.
Welfare recipients per capita are much higher in red states. Raw numbers are only higher because blue states are more populated.
The poorest states (and those on the most assistance) are red.
What Pat said is demonstrably wrong.
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And these terribly managed blue states subsidize red states.
Although, I’ll say your state is a great example of how the GoPs trickle down policies work so well. Who needs education when the rich could be richer?
Trump retweeted a moronic conspiracy theory for a QAnon worm that Biden and Obama may have had Seal Team 6 killed. If you think this is worth the price of “judges”, you’re part of the problem.
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Meanwhile, two SEALS from the mission that killed Bin Laden who outed themselves, one claims to have fired the shots that killed him, are still alive, going on tv and writing books.
Didnt even see pats post
My post point doesnt change
More recipients = more gdp
And @antiquity
Plus i repeat why the change, after 150 years the 2 areas are nearly the same
10 years later blue is 50% and 15% higher respectively?
Sure l’m curious as to why. Inability to govern seems suspect, other than Obama was in charge most of that destruction.
Heh Just threw that last bit for the fun…
Yep. Even the most conservative people I knew were baffled at the stupidity of the brownback “experiment” which was a horrific failure. We will be cleaning up that mess for decades.
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I’m not so sure about that.
Rural housing is booming in many states, mine included.
I think we just hatched a significant work from home egg that’s got people eyeing rural property in significant numbers. I’m not following Wyoming trends, but my area is experiencing a sellers market that hasn’t been seen before.
That’s a good question. Over the last 10 years democratic districts (or urban centers) have increased their numbers of professional, high paying tech employment while lessening their manufacturing and agriculture jobs. Rural/red districts have seen their highly educated younger constituents migrate to urban areas for higher pay.
Except that that isn’t true. The poverty rate over the last 10 years has seen the red states overtake the blue states. Also, even if you look at per capita (so the largest states don’t win by sheer volume), the GDP per capita is much higher in blue states now while 10 years ago it was nearly the same.
It will indeed be interesting to see how the work-from-home impacts things.
I live in the Bay Area in a county where the median home price is currently $1.24 million. For comparison, I lived in rural PA for 13 years and owned a house the last 10. It went from $290K in 2005 to selling for $385K in 2015. For comparison, the home I own in the Bay Area has increased in value over $600K over the last 4.5 years alone. Friends that (luckily) bought here in 2005 have seen their homes go up well over $1M in value compared to what they paid.
Surprisingly, the demand has gotten higher here since the pandemic. Our friends just bought a 950 sq foot home this summer for $1.25M, and had to out-compete several bidders. That is about as low of a price to get in this specific area of the county as you can pay these days. It’s crazy. Houses sell before hitting the market, with a “coming soon” sign all it takes for multiple above-asking offers. And the buyers are young families.
It sounds like Bay Area millionaires and high income families are doing quite well. That’s reassuring to hear.
A point, though, is these are young transplants from other states buying the homes. The friends I have are who just bought are from rural Michigan (went on to nice schools, etc…). These are not old, rich millionaires buying more homes in their home state. That’s why sports fans are so crappy here: because everyone is rooting for the teams from where they’re from.
This is part of the reason for the salary/GDP gap in blue vs red states: those that can afford to leave the red states tend to. This may change, as you say, if the work-from-home becomes a mainstay.
I think it’s going to have a massive impact we just don’t know quite how yet fully.
We should cut their taxes even more than we just did and let that shit trickle!
This is why people need to be told how to think properly:
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We don’t really know do we ? How many times a day, for numerous years, were people told that they could keep their doctor and keep their plan ? Multiple times a day for 5 years.
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Then you weren’t really interested in Trump doing anything, because you’re so immersed in pure hatred of the man.
The first president to not escalate a current military conflict, start a new military conflict, and create the most influential economy the world had ever seen (pre-Covid).
But you’re bitching about the orange skin and the mean tweets 
. Oh not the tweets ! You would rather have the clowns from yesteryear that started bullshit wars, passed trade agreements that sent millions of American jobs overseas, and allowed lax immigration policies that low-balled wages in numerous job sectors.
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They are also immune from the bullshit progressive policies that have ruined my state.
If you saw the level of decay in Los Angeles right now, you would think it’s a scene from a Mad Max movie. A homeless druggie threatened me with a stool at a local Starbucks, so I grabbed a nearby stool and told him let’s go. What he didn’t know, is that I’m crazier than he is.
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