It appears they are looking after their people. What a disgrace.
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Well, there goes that defence of wanton disorder.
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Nope, not then either. Whether he was “peaceful” or not, were that claim made, but would be assessed on whether he was peaceful at the time of the incident. There are rules prohibiting precisely the kinds of things you’re trying to say when the victims are put on trial as part of the defense.
Nope, I haven’t - and more besides, he’s been charged with varying counts ranging from reckless homicide to murder (I think). He might be guilty of one and not the others, or who knows, when all the facts come out. My point is that self-defense can be difficult to claim under facts like these - where the shooter isn’t in a posture of innocence, but rather someone looking for trouble, and more heavily armed than the people who confronted him. Self-defense is built on the benefit of the doubt - and a guy who drives across state lines to a place where protesting/rioting is happening, stacks up with an assault rifle, takes to the streets, and kills not one person but two and shoots a third might not get it.
And no amount of irrational hatred by you and @Sloth at the victims’ ideology or purpose for being on the scene takes away from the fact that they were victims. This may come as a huge shock to y’all, but the scales of justice don’t tip in favor of the shooter just because the victims were left-wing pinkos who “deserved what they had coming”.
In election news, Trump’s support with the military slips:
That headkick though…
An unlikely but very effective sedative
We shall see.
Unfortunately this is my take on most politicians from both parties right now. I actually miss GWB for all his missteps.
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Has any president been more publicly disrespectful of the military and military personnel?
Looking at pure policy, Biden wants to boost military spending and keep overseas bases do I don’t see why he wouldn’t be popular amongst military folks.
That said, most military folks I know lean right and dislike progressives and liberals… And they live in one helluva echo chamber
But you know @thunderbolt23, maybe you could spare the irrational hatred of the victim’s ideology stuff. If I hate anything it’s their participation in helping to continue burning down the hard work of others. I’d say that’s pretty rational of me. Don’t you agree? I realize it’s something your candidate wanted to stay as silent as possible on, until even left-friendly pundits in the media began to worry recently, but some of us have felt strongly about these riots before the polls began to turn.
And I find it extremely irrational to expect a person in full retreat from aggressive pursuers to disarm and surrender himself to rioters who have just fired a gun from behind as they gave chase…
To then trip and fall after trying to retreat yet again. To see a man literally try to jump stomp his head as he was down, another to brain him with a skateboard, and to close in on him with a pistol.
Did you happen to see the fella who damn near had his head scrambled after surrendering (Upon crashing) to pursuing rioters? One kick knockout under chants of BLM.
He didn’t chase them down. He didn’t even stand his ground. He is on video trying to retreat from them. Until they fire a shot. The very first shot.
The looting, the fires, the murdered child and murdered teen at mostly peaceful protestor checkpoints, the murdered retired police officer, the burned corpse in the burned out shop, and what’s looking like a right wing counter protestor who was actively tracked down, pointed out, and murdered. Among others who’ve lost their lives already. The left wing politicization of federal officers protecting federal property. The burned down blood, sweat, and tears of innocent citizens. Their already on the edge (corona, remember) business gutted. Hopes and dreams turned into nightmares.
Only to meet an irrational amount of silence by a candidate for the US Presidency. Spare the irrational hatred noise. I’m not the one poo pooing violent riots for hatred of the Orange Man. It was a ridiculous issue to be contrarian on.
All that you listed is rational of you. Being at a minimum ambivalent toward, and at a maximum bloodthirsty for, lethal violence for their mayhem isn’t.
EDIT: well, rational in the sense if taken as true. Your depiction of the events of the Kenosha shooting are spun.
Omg. I have predicted and warned against this from the beginning. Wanting local law enforcement backed up and streets cleared. I’m not the one who covered my ears and eyes, and bit down on my lip for months.
Now that it’s Rittenhouse (let me guess, cause he looks like a Trump supporter) pulling the trigger, while literally being chased and attacked, suddenly the moods changes and folks begin to find their voices.
People were already murdered. Including an 8 year old.
Can we start requesting the appropriate amount of help? And stop releasing mostly peaceful protestors almost as soon as they’re booked? I’m down.
Oh wait. We’re still blaming Trump for months of left wing violence in Democrat cities while playing catch and release with rioters.
LOL. The methodology is an online survey of military.com readers.
Aside from the ease in which any online survey can be manipulated, “military.com” is, despite it’s name, a hard left site.
I’ve spent most of my adult either in the Army or in the Reserves and never, ever, heard of the website until your post. It took about 30 seconds of due diligence to figure out what the website is.
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Trump was supposed to send the military in with orders to kill protestors on sight. He didn’t do that, and the plan to get him to so seems to be backfiring.
Poll conducted in connection with Syracuse U, and it’s a poll that has been asking these same questions for several years (hence the ability to compare support findings over time):
I don’t have an opinion on Military.com, but Hell, I’ve known it’s been around for years.
Were I a conspiratorially minded man, I’d suspect this was, in fact, the aim. Get Trump to commit heavies to these cities so they could call him a jackboot.
Him not doing so has left them in a bit of a pickle, I think.
But then, I am not a conspiratorial man, so I assume stupidity before malice.
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Is that a fact, or your opinion? And doesn’t that opinion also apply to the three criminals who were shot?
Irrelevant. If Mike Tyson says he is going to punch you until you are dead, do you have to give him a fair fight?
None of which is illegal.
Pot, meet kettle.
If I hear that a 17 year old shot 3 violent criminals, one a sex offender against a minor, another a domestic abuser and another who, in spite of being a felon, had a gun, I would guess the kid probably acted in self-defense and assume that the violent criminals were doing what violent criminals do: prey upon the innocent. But this is one reason why Trump might win: the left just has to make martyrs of lowlifes.
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I assume both. Stupidity in thinking that Trump would actually do so, and malice in being willing to sacrifice the lives of the rioters/protestors.
Doesn’t have to be. Facts inform motive.
Super. That’s why it’s important to get all the facts, not just select ones. That way, you can see the whole picture and not just the emotional one you painted for yourself (along with your fictions about how the law works).