People like Birx and Fauci (or used to) because they KNOW WHAT THEY’RE DOING. And, you know, been doing this for 50 years instead of 2 months.
As far as I’m concerned he should be impeached again for even suggesting delay of the election and that might not leave office.
I’m with Calibrisi.
It should scare the hell out of intelligent conservatives that people who have been lifetime GoP folks (like George Will) and small gov advocates like Calibrisi are saying the GoP needs to lose and Trump needs to be removed.
One thing I have found out over the years about elections, is how seriously the local and State officials take their Job. They often seem to almost take it personally when someone accuses their jurisdiction of widespread fraud and abuse.
Believe me…mistakes are made, (which they concede and try their best to correct). However, they do not take to kindly to accusations of widespread fraud and abuse.
The mail-in Ballot debate is certainly one where clear political lines have been drawn.
It doesn’t help when you have a history of treating every human like garbage. Trump not being qualified to talk about the virus isn’t why approval ratings are low. They were low before Corona. It’s like a kid who has always been an asshole looking around when they are 16 and wondering why no one wants to be at the birthday party.
I just drove a few thousand miles across the country and saw about fifty gazillon Trump signs, a ton of local Joe Bob for sheriff or other local office signs and not a single Joe Biden sign.
Maybe I saw the Biden enthusiasm and, blinded as I am by the pathological simple-mindedness that led me to vote Trump, failed to register the event in my memory banks.
I really hope that’s not the case.
Otherwise we have polls that paint a completely different picture than American roadway signs did during my mad pandemic dash.
I’m old, so maybe the kids do it differently these days, but I’m pretty sure polls have the ability to discourage the “losers” from even trying/voting. Sort of like NY and CA people that don’t like the Democratic choice.
I don’t think Biden enthusiasm is truly real in any sense. I don’t believe a lot of people who will vote for him are super excited in the least bit. The Biden excitement is simply because people know if Biden’s
President that means Trump isn’t and that concept excites a LOT of people. Biden’s never had a big chance at winning off excitement at least not in 2020 maybe when he was younger. But Trump not winning does excite people.
But I think Trump win or lose has shown that he has a significant amount of people who are definitely ride or die for him. I’m surrounded by many of those Trump signs and know some of his biggest supporters well. They love the man and they are for what he’s for.
They may have parroted Fox News when Obama was in office about the debt or whatever but now if Trumps for it they are for it. He can’t lose these type of supporters it’s impossible. They aren’t tied to his ideas (which change all the time) they are tied to him. So he can come out tomorrow and say Obamacare is amazing and we shouldn’t ever build a wall and they will be surprised but decide he must be right. That’s part of the reason nothing “sticks” to him in a sense of losing his true supporters. They love the dude not the ideas. Doesn’t matter if a few days ago he said the exact opposite thing he’s saying today…he’s talking about something and that’s good. “I stand by Trump…no matter what he says or does.” His loyal base isn’t massive (reflected in consistently the lowest approval ratings in presidential history) but they are coming with him no matter what. He can’t lose them anymore than Biden could win them.
All that said I think the current “polls” are largely unstable. We don’t even know what the election looks like from a practical voting sense let alone anything else. Do some Biden voters stay home because they think the risk is to great? Does Trump have an advantage as the party who may be more likely to have people that don’t worry about long lines of close people? I have no idea. I think the idea that Trump is toast is a given is nuts though. As long as he’s within striking distance in a few battleground states he’s got a decent shot. We really don’t like to kick dudes out after one term.
I had a car to drive for a good chunk of the miles, so maybe I was too busy avoiding New Jersey assholes on the road to notice their many expressions of support for Joe Biden.
We saw at least three unidentifiable sources of thick black smoke billowing up from the underpass. I now understand why that can sometimes be a perfectly acceptable form of political expression, so I suppose it’s possible I totally missed a tire fire lit in enthusiastic support of Joe Biden.
I could be wrong I often am but always enjoy talking on this board more than anything about the actual race and polling etc. I mean Biden was clearly not going to be progressives first pick at all. I don’t know how much someone his age could excite anyone anyways.
I think 2020 comes down to has Trump hurt himself enough by being himself that people will vote for anyone in the world to not have him be himself for the next four years?
This would be hard to predict anyways…throw in coronavirus where we don’t even have a clue what the actual election is going to look like in a practical sense and I honestly have no idea. Such a weird thing his approval numbers on the virus are abysmal but what if fear of going out to vote in big groups on Election Day (which we can speculate is probably a bigger fear for average dem than average republican) keeps some Dems home? No big deal in certain states of course but battleground ones? That 3 point lead in a battleground state for Biden already within the margin of error and a spike in cases in a blue county before? Could easily be enough to swing it. Trump (and Biden of course) doesn’t need to win those states by anything but 1.
Polling is one thing but we have something here that is absolutely impossible to get a feel for. And the answer today may be different than in November even.
I’m feeling better and better about the people saying that we shouldn’t worry about the fraud potential of an unprecedented and sudden implementation of an untested mail-in voting system.
I feel even better after being assured that all concerns about this dramatic change that’s never been tried have been debunked.
This could be how we finally solve The Trump Problem.
Fraud potential sure. But I think we had about 20% vote by mail in 2016. Not sure how we can be so worried about it now but not then. And pretty sure Trump voted by mail but I’m sure he will continue to wear out how dangerous it is. Also with the recent voter frauds committed by Republicans not sure why this is something that the right seems convinced is going to hurt and not help them. But the President, Vice President, his kids, cabinet etc may all vote (again in many cases) by mail but we certainly can’t trust mail ballots if they are cast by Dems.
I think there will be debates, but to your question, not much - debates and their performances historically don’t move the needle much.
But take a look at Trump’s recent interview on Axios - Trump is a disaster at defending his record (which is what a debate would be, not an actual debate). He shits the bed on pandemic questions and he can’t even acknowledge John Lewis as a good guy because he didn’t attend Trump’s inauguration.
The more Trump talks, the worse it gets. Not for his cultists, mind you, they’re going to vote for him even if he said Reagan was the AntiChrist. But the votes that delivered Trump to victory in the EC are seeing this nonsense, and the current polls reflect it.