The Push to 2020 Has Begun!

They have bought a place at the DNC table. A Marxist organization has paid its way to have an influential voice in one of the two major political parties; this should concern everyone.

And wait for when curricula from elementary through college have to get the BLM Marxist/intersectionalist seal of approval.

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I would consider the overwhelming majority of folks who support the blm movement to not be supporters of trump. I think you would agree. Hence, that comparison is very apt. But that is his schtick: make every single issue into “youre either with me, or you are stupid, evil, or corrupt”. I think its unfortunate.

Its just really poor leadership of a large diverse group. If you are only trying to lead your followers its great leadership. Its a page out of wartime propaganda: define yourselves as bastions of good and rightousness, and the otherside as evil and intent on destruction. It is meant to dehumanize the other side. thats fucked up to have our POTUS doing that to half of america.

I think nearly every person in America will tell you black lives matter. As recently as a week or so ago Black Lives Matter, the organization, was polling at 60 percent approval in the USA in a rasmussen poll. BLM is more popular than Trump, than any of our past past presidents, any other political party, any member of congress and just about any other major political player on the scene right now.

I think the majority of BLM supporters simply support the notion of black lives matter, which doesn’t concern me at all. That’s a good thing, except for the fact that the good-natured sentiment is being leveraged for Marxist political goals.

This isn’t Trump throwing meat to his supporters. This is Trump picking a fight with a popular group of Marxists who are seeing an alarming level of success right now.

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It should only concern me if they put forth policy i disagree with, right?

For now, sure.

If the Marxists win, and I mean really win, we’re pretty much all fucked, even if you survive Civil War 2.

Thats the thing though. He didnt just pick a fight with marxists. he picked a fight with 60% of americans. Im not arguing the good vs bad of BLM. Im saying the way he decided to tweet about it was very divisive. Good vs Evil. For or Against. No explanation.

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Yup.

That’s one way to start a conversation, isn’t it?

So dont let the marxists REALLY win? You are thinking way down the slippery slope.

Stop them now, before we find out how much more slippery the slope will get.

This is a major, major flashpoint in US History right now.

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That is a horrible way to start a productive conversation, and likely to not start any conversation at all. Like i said, it shows terrible leadership skills.

Its as bad as saying if you support trump you are racist. No good convo comes from that. just hurt feelings.

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Good leadership is rarely perfect. I try to compare it to what doing nothing would look like for starters. I would also compare it to what doing the opposite would be, which would be to support BLM.

If Trump were a pure politician who only did what was popular, he would bend the knee to BLM, as many have already done in both parties already. Some literally, in fact. There’s virtually no downside to doing that for many of these people, unless people’s thoughts on what’s happening change. Perhaps even a majority would see that as good leadership right now. That doesn’t make it so.

Trump didn’t use the choice of words I would have, but I think it is accurate. It is time to start the conversation about what BLM is after, why their ideology is hateful, and draw some lines in the sand as a society for how much woke nonsense we’re going to keep putting up with.

The only way to do that is to push back with words and eventually get them out of and away from positions of power. aThat’s going to upset a lot of people, nearly all of whom will consider it bad leadership.

@aragorn Followed by chaos and disorder (already nascent imo), let’s not quibble about whether it’s at the state or federal level.

I think your standards for the leader of the free-fucking-world are waaaaaay too low. He doesnt need to be perfect, he just doesnt need to take every opportunity to call those who disagree with him stupid, lazy, corrupt, evil, etc. That serves nothing but his ego. Its counterproductive. It puts people on the defensive, while making “his side” feel superior. Its terrible leadership.

I have no problem with him speaking out against BLM. I dont much care for BLM the organization.

Leaders need to speak out, thats what they are in power for. But trump does so only caring about what those that already support him think. And that is a serious problem when you are trying to win over “the other side”.

Would you wear that on a t-shirt and walk through Seattle?

If not, why not?

I call it good leadership because I consider it a dramatic improvement over doing nothing or the opposite, and it’s really the same standard I hold elected officials to at all levels. They’re all humans, so far as I know. If Biden turns out to be a skin-suit of some kind for an extraterrestrial, a lot of things would start to make more sense.

Aside from being an improvement over the alternatives, it is good leadership precisely because he’s picking an unpopular fight that I believe needs to be picked. Right now.

If you are a white, heterosexual male (or have sons who are) then you should already disagree with what they want. They don’t want to be your equal, they want to be your superior.

I had to take a class last year and the first thing we “learned” was that white privilege is real and somehow I have it. Then when we had to list all of our privileges (but not our disadvantages). It was as though there was a great effort being made to make me feel guilty about having had an easy path through my life and dismiss any of the negatives because they pale in comparison to so-called protected groups. The reality is that my childhood was worse than many inner city kids. But white men feel no pain because we are evil. And yes, that is what BLM believes.

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Yeah. Believe it or not seattle isnt fucking loony tunes crazy. its 99.9% totally normal folks. On election night 2016 i watched the election results in a bar in Cap Hill wearing a shirt that had Arnold decked out in american flags that said “Made in America”… it looked very similar to a MAGA shirt. No one cared.

Id have no problem wearing a shirt that said BLM - Not a fan. Only place i might catch a little shit is in Cap Hill and probably none once i explained my position.

I dont think it was productive at all because, like i said, his tweet demonized the side he should be trying to convert. People just dig in and become defensive when you do that. Its very basic social skills.

If you worked in education you would be risking your job.

Let’s see it. Start a go fund me, I’m sure you’d get a ton of donations of people who’d like to see you do that.

Edit: Feel free to hide your face and/or edit out all PII, of course.

You could probably get a lot of social media attention out of it if you volunteered to wear that t-shirt in, say, Englewood.

Weird. I went through racial bias training earlier this year in hippydippy seattle for my job and it was made very clear that we need not feel quilty for our privilege, but just need to aknowledge it and be aware of it.

Sounds like you had a bad teacher…

Still waiting to hear of policies that i should disagree with…

Exactly NEED. You have no choice.

The community owns your child.