The same people watching it were also watching Sanford & Son.
Both were copies of British shows, incidentially.
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If you dug into it a bit (ie before your lifetime), you would see that GOP was the thing they profess - smaller govt, more isolationist, lower taxes, less immigration, church going, patriotic, etc.
What changed are former Democrat intellectuals came into the fold with RINO agenda - open immigration, nation building/Pax Solo Americana, and unlimited money printing to finance these unfunded adventures.
The party was literally co-opted by this movement with the Kristols, all of the Bushes, somewhat Reagan, National Review, and a huge number of Congressional leaders saying this was Conservatism.
It isn’t, but the Democrat party certainly wasn’t.
And it most definitely is moving leftward by the year.
So what is it’s final destination? Transfer the entire wealth of whites to blacks as a reparation? Get rid of the police? Rewrite history to suit today’s uneducated mob?
The appeasement that actual Conservatives have given to those with radically different ideas (starting with RINOs) has only emboldened the radical departure from either the Constitution or good sense itself.
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Don’t disagree but much like when people on here bring up Democrats being white supremacists in the past I’m more interested in what’s happening now than what used to happen. Yeah a lot of Democrats back in the day had white supremacists. But now the Republican Party is the exclusive home of them. They ain’t voting for Dems.
Without going into the details of whether the positions are good or bad (as it’s subjective) do you think Rinos are why Trump came to power?
The GOP was the party of free trade. Trump has been in stark opposition of that. They were against places like Russia and North Korea even flipping out at the idea of Obama talking to them. Trump has been the opposite actually praising these leaders. They were pro cutting entitlement programs. Trump ran on not touching them.
They were against abortion. Trump had to flip flop because he has long been for it. Same thing with transgenders. And perhaps the two biggest? A party that lost their shit over Obamacare (a plan that was based on Republican ideas) ran a guy who proposed universal health care. A party that talked non stop about the debt ran the (as far as I know) one person who said it doesn’t matter because we can print money and it doesn’t matter because I’ll negotiate it if we go busto.
Again without debating whether or not these were good moves, bad moves, whatever I’m curious if this is just all dismissed as RINO’s? At what point do we stop saying “well those aren’t real Republicans” if it’s the very people Republican voters put in power?
Evangelicals suppport Trump and people ask them how is it possible because Trump is clearly pandering. They don’t care as long as they get what they want (mainly the Supreme Court) and the fact that they are being pandered to, makes them feel significant, since the other side of the coin would be to be ignored.
The wack jobs on the left are not as forgiving. You could be the perfect candidate but if you said something or held a certain position 40 years ago that they don’t agree with, what you did in the 40 years that followed won’t mean a thing.
Yeah no disagreement from me. The overwhelming evangelical support for Trump has shown that they are simply Republican voters no matter what. Put a Bible in your hands every once in a while and you’ve got nothing to worry about. They aren’t on the whole like Sloth and demand a certain level of authenticity in their candidate.
I think we learned that for sure when even in the primary they supported by far the least socially conservative candidate.
You apparently read my post, but somewhat don’t believe it?
It would be like me knowing you are more liberal than l, and voting Democrat.
But then thinking you also agree with the post AOC ideas being proposed and even attempted, and thinking you are on board because you vote Dem.
Actually l give you more credit than that, because l know you think things through in more detail. I’m saying a paint brush can paint too wide a swipe, when your entire personal philosophy has to be boiled down to binary choice politically.
Edit I never agreed with the more liberalized moral stances of centrist republicans, and am severly dismayed at the endless spending.
Yes l do put the blame on RINOS, for moving so far left that the Dems have jumped off the left edge. Obviously rinos are still closer to me than aoc.
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This shoe fits either foot. Dem leadership is an absolute amoral joke.
Do they represent you in toto?
DAMN interesting (and spot-on) insight, @zecarlo!
This happens to be just one (of many) reasons I think that Trump will win in November…and win big.
Conservatives today may be some of the biggest hypocrites on the planet; but they have gotten in lock-step with Trumpublicanism and all of it’s ramifications.
Dems eat their own and seem to be on a mission to alienate as many non-Trump voters as they can. End result?
MAGA.
4 more years.
Republicans work the system, Democrats cry about it.
PLEASE say it ain’t SO, @zecarlo!
If they are so outside of “the Deep State”…how is it that they can “manipulate the manipulators”?
FAKE NEWS!!!
So going after education and mainline mass communication in the 60s to the point they are both virtually 100% left wing ideologues, wasn’t long term manipulation?
If you do think in the negative on this, l can see why you and H think that the conservative tenets l wrote about are some old fashioned ideals that no one still holds.
However they and not Trump the man, are the glue of the base.
Capture those, and you can just call your opinions truth.
Whatever you need to do and say to convince yourself, @treco.
You can post your conviction, l suppose.
Or can you?
I believe in Fairies and Fairy Tales much like you do, @treco.
Here is a list for you to pick from on your next reply.
Perhaps more age appropiate.
A nanny nanny boo boo
B yo mama
C yeah with your mouth
Hrmm? Maybe I misinterpreted your overall point in my response. Not sure. I don’t think any party really fits one person in whole. But don’t you think the Republican Party once they supported Trump has been almost a complete flip from what they claimed to support during Obama’s presidency? I mean you have right of center people on this board who have said they will support Biden because they just can’t with Trump.
Wouldn’t argue you otherwise. But no one in either party at the highest level is like Donald Trump. I think you know my opinion enough to know that isn’t a compliment. You may say the whole batch is disgusting swines on both sides and I won’t disagree. But to me one clearly leads the pack. It’s the guy who you wouldn’t want your kids to watch one of his speeches for fear they might emulate him.
I’m not thrilled by much of what the Dems are saying but Biden’s been a pretty consistent moderate for the most part. That’s how I think he would be as President. Do I want him to be President? No not really. Do I want to continue to have an out of control toddler in charge? No thanks.
Give me the old man who may have dementia over the one who is absolutely insane by his very nature. One of those two is going to be more likely to listen to experts and make careful decisions. Even if you can find instances where he’s shot himself in the foot with his mouth. I’ll take the guy who accidentally fires rounds at himself over the one who stays fully loaded shooting everywhere while spinning in circles.
Since I’m in Kansas I’ve always voted for third party for President. Still will as I want to put emphasis there and my states electoral votes are already known.
When I said work the system I meant they understand how things work in order to make them work for them. I didn’t mean game the system. Democrats will say the system isn’t fair while Republicans are looking to see how they can get what they want using the system. Take the Electoral College: when Hillary loses, it’s unfair and we need to change it but no one said anything when Obama won. I’m not judging it as a bad thing or a good thing, just a thing.
Speak my truth is the mantra of the intellectually challenged.
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