[quote]Christine wrote:
SteelyD wrote:
Just so we’re all clear-- ‘folksy’ is a mainstream media and social elite euphemism for ‘hickish’ or ‘porch honky’.
Frankly, it’s pejorative.
Did you just make porch honky up?
I think that I am going to have to use that.
I think you’re pushing it if you think that calling someone ‘folksy’ is pejorative. [/quote]
It’s all in the delivery.
No, I didn’t make up porch honky… 
At face value, folksy is just folksy. I’m certainly not offended by it.
However, the media and elite use it extensively because they can’t outright say “So-and-so has that retarded backwoods Uncle Daddy goat fucking way about them…”
[quote]rainjack wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
Wait, so by both of your logics and personal experience, shouldn’t that mean dumb Northeast city slickers should be taken in by Palin and swayed by her small town charm?
You said Palin was overplaying. We both showed you that merely being from where she is and being herself can take snooty, self-absorbed yankees out of their comfort level.
I have heard people from Michigan talk. It’s worse than finger nails on the chalk board. [/quote]
What Push said is probably true. Your stories are entertaining but have no relevance to the discussion. If they show anything, it’s that Palin’s accent and mannerisms should be appealing to the ‘yankees’.
Not a fan of the Michigan accent (though it doesn’t seem any worse than Palin’s0. I’m not from there. I just was in law school there for three years and am out now. I should actually change that and otherwise update the old profile.
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
rainjack wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
Wait, so by both of your logics and personal experience, shouldn’t that mean dumb Northeast city slickers should be taken in by Palin and swayed by her small town charm?
You said Palin was overplaying. We both showed you that merely being from where she is and being herself can take snooty, self-absorbed yankees out of their comfort level.
I have heard people from Michigan talk. It’s worse than finger nails on the chalk board.
What Push said is probably true. Your stories are entertaining but have no relevance to the discussion. If they show anything, it’s that Palin’s accent and mannerisms should be appealing to the ‘yankees’.
Not a fan of the Michigan accent (though it doesn’t seem any worse than Palin’s0. I’m not from there. I just was in law school there for three years and am out now. I should actually change that and otherwise update the old profile. [/quote]
They are not appealing. They are freakish to yankees. You guys think Palin is pouring it on to thick. She is not. My stories show that even an exercise as simple as buying a can of snuff in NYC freaks out the locals.
You are no different.
I find it more than a little nit-picky that, out of an hour and a half of debating, you focus on her speech patterns.
First she’s not qualified to be VP because she is weak on the issues. Now it is because she talks funny.
If that’s all you have to bitch about, why waste your time?
Wow. After watching the news for about and hour now, CNN and MSNBC… Jeez.
All they have is sound bites of her saying “Gosh darn it”, and that is ALL they are criticizing her on. They are being even more condescending than ever before.
Here’s another thing that really irks me. They keep playing that clip of when Biden started tearing up toward the end of he debate and are saying something to the effect that Biden was “opening up” and being sensitive.
However, if Palin started tearing up about her child… They would be all over her for using her child as a political move or whatever…
This is stupid. Palin put on a stellar performance last night, and being that she is a relative newbie to this process, that goes a long way.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
No, I didn’t make up porch honky…
At face value, folksy is just folksy. I’m certainly not offended by it.
However, the media and elite use it extensively because they can’t outright say “So-and-so has that retarded backwoods Uncle Daddy goat fucking way about them…”[/quote]
Hahahaha. Well-put and probably not too far off the mark.
Go Pack Go
… that is all.
Another thing that I wonder about. If this election is such a slam dunk for Obama, then why all this Palin bashing? If Obama is the obvious choice, then why is the left laying it on so thick? Why the attacks on Palin about the way she talks, and why attack McCain about his age?
Why do they need to keep reminding everyone that “George Bush and John McCain ruined the whole world, adn only Obama can save us all”?
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Dissect it anyway you want, she has charisma. [/quote]
I completely disagree with this statement.
If she has charisma, why do I have the urge to strangle her until her eyes pop out.
I’m really not a violent person.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Christine wrote:
pushharder wrote:
Dissect it anyway you want, she has charisma.
I completely disagree with this statement.
If she has charisma, why do I have the urge to strangle her until her eyes pop out.
I’m really not a violent person…
I told you you needed counseling a couple days ago.
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I’d feed her eyes to my fish… when I get fish that is.
When I see GWB, I only have the urge to punch him in the nose and watch him bleed.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
rainjack wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
Wait, so by both of your logics and personal experience, shouldn’t that mean dumb Northeast city slickers should be taken in by Palin and swayed by her small town charm?
You said Palin was overplaying. We both showed you that merely being from where she is and being herself can take snooty, self-absorbed yankees out of their comfort level.
I have heard people from Michigan talk. It’s worse than finger nails on the chalk board.
What Push said is probably true. Your stories are entertaining but have no relevance to the discussion. If they show anything, it’s that Palin’s accent and mannerisms should be appealing to the ‘yankees’.
Not a fan of the Michigan accent (though it doesn’t seem any worse than Palin’s0. I’m not from there. I just was in law school there for three years and am out now. I should actually change that and otherwise update the old profile.
They are not appealing. They are freakish to yankees. You guys think Palin is pouring it on to thick. She is not. My stories show that even an exercise as simple as buying a can of snuff in NYC freaks out the locals.
You are no different.
I find it more than a little nit-picky that, out of an hour and a half of debating, you focus on her speech patterns.
First she’s not qualified to be VP because she is weak on the issues. Now it is because she talks funny.
If that’s all you have to bitch about, why waste your time?
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You’re making a mountain out a molehill. I said I wasn’t a fan of her accent and her constant references to her background implying she had some unique window into America’s soul. Go cry about it. I also said that despite being somewhat evasive and not always answering the questions, she did a pretty did job.
Good enough that the debate will be a wash and not influence voters much in either direction. Like most VP debates. Or did you somehow miss that part?
[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
Biden looks Chinese in head on shots[/quote]
I always thought that he looked more like a figure in a wax museum.
[quote]Christine wrote:
pushharder wrote:
Dissect it anyway you want, she has charisma.
I completely disagree with this statement.
If she has charisma, why do I have the urge to strangle her until her eyes pop out.
I’m really not a violent person.
[/quote]
You have to admit she moved you. Good or bad, she has the power to move you.
Now, just because you represent the powers of darkness, and the mere mention of her name incites you to murder does not mean she is void of charisma.
[quote]skaz05 wrote:
Another thing that I wonder about. If this election is such a slam dunk for Obama, then why all this Palin bashing? If Obama is the obvious choice, then why is the left laying it on so thick? Why the attacks on Palin about the way she talks, and why attack McCain about his age?
Why do they need to keep reminding everyone that “George Bush and John McCain ruined the whole world, adn only Obama can save us all”?[/quote]
That’s what the left does, personal attacks are their specialty. It’s like when you argue with a lib and you start presenting facts and logic, they come out with “Bush lied, people died”.
[quote]Christine wrote:
pushharder wrote:
Dissect it anyway you want, she has charisma.
I completely disagree with this statement.
If she has charisma, why do I have the urge to strangle her until her eyes pop out.
I’m really not a violent person.
[/quote]
I’m with you. I don’t think she does. I agree with the rest of what Push said. Biden and McCain don’t. Obama does and Reagan did. Palin is down to earth which I do appreciate and has a nice backstory that appeals to many. I guess that’s passing for charisma these days.