[quote]hedo wrote:
AOL Poll shows:
Palin 47%
Biden 45%
Draw 8%
480,000 in the sample.[/quote]
Link?
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
Wait, so by both of your logics and personal experience, shouldn’t that mean dumb Northeast city slickers should be taken in by Palin and swayed by her small town charm?[/quote]
You said Palin was overplaying. We both showed you that merely being from where she is and being herself can take snooty, self-absorbed yankees out of their comfort level.
I have heard people from Michigan talk. It’s worse than finger nails on the chalk board.
I like how Mushmouth from Fat Albert talks, too, but I don’t want him as VP.
Toe to toe with a United States Senator of 30 years+ experience and comes out even or better? She’s not only a T-Woman but I’d happily vote for HER for President.
I don’t think this debate is going to sway a voter one way or another. If you were planning on voting democrat before you still will after this debate and vice versa.
What scares me is that too many Americans vote for the party and dare I say, the race of said nominee, and not for the person or the facts.
I am voting for the person that is less likely to destroy the American way of Life.
I do not want to live in a socialist society. I do not want to be told that everybody will work and all medical bills will be paid for by the government and live abortion is ok because people shouldn’t be punished by a baby.
This mess America is in did not all start in 2000. The banks were practically forced to take in mortgages from low income families in 1992 and Fannie and Freddie stepped in to buy these mortgages.
And the CEO of Fannie back then was Franklin Raines, Economic advisor of Obama now, I believe.
Admitted, a lot of bad decisions were made by this administration,Iraq, but I am better off now then I was 8 years ago. All presidents have made bad decisions. I want a President that will stick to his guns and will get America back where it belongs.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
PAKISTANI WEAPONS: “Pakistan already has nuclear weapons. Pakistan already has deployed nuclear weapons. Pakistan’s weapons can already hit Israel and the Mediterranean.”
The distance between Israel and Pakistan is 2,085 miles, or 3355 kilometers. They are working on developing longer-range missiles; maybe Biden knows of some development that public sources do not yet know about.
Theoretically, the Pakistanis could put the weapon on a boat and then sail it to the target, but by that standard, any site on a coast in the world is within their range.
ANOTHER UPDATE: This site indicates that the top range of Pakistani missile that can carry a nuclear warhead is 1000 miles. By being off by 1,000 or so, I’m now upgrading this to full lie/error/hallucination status.
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTVhMThlNjRkZGFlMmUwOWFkNDZkZjk0MzBiY2JiYmY=
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I actually measured the distance on Google Earth, and it’s giving me a tiny bit under 2400km. I also know that Shaheen II, which the Pak Askari launched 5 years ago, has a range of 2000km.
Besides, the only times nukes were actually used in warfare, the delivery system wasn’t long range missiles. So, I can’t really see what you’re bitching about.
More importantly, Israel has a two decades advance over Pakistan when it comes to nukes. What kind of an idiot considers Islamabad declaring war on Tel-Aviv plausible?
[quote]rainjack wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
Wait, so by both of your logics and personal experience, shouldn’t that mean dumb Northeast city slickers should be taken in by Palin and swayed by her small town charm?
You said Palin was overplaying. We both showed you that merely being from where she is and being herself can take snooty, self-absorbed yankees out of their comfort level.
I have heard people from Michigan talk. It’s worse than finger nails on the chalk board. [/quote]
Are you meaning to imply by this that our diction, elocution and pronunciation is not the model by which all English speaking people the world over should be measured?
And to think I used to like you =]
To reiterate, when I was in Alaska that is how they talked, especially the women.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
AynRandLuvr wrote:
Toe to toe with a United States Senator of 30 years+ experience and comes out even or better? She’s not only a T-Woman but I’d happily vote for HER for President.
If anything that SHOULD convince someone that her potential is significantly greater than that of The Great Plagiarizer’s.
Yes, Biden can boast of his humble Scranton beginnings but the bottom line is a long term in D.C. will undoubtedly infect you with elitism and a skewed look at the world and your own country. It happened to Biden. It happened to McCain. It would probably happen to Palin.
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I’m glad you mentioned that it will happen to Palin, too. This isn’t Mr. Smith Goes to Washington. It’s not a movie. One person isn’t going to walk into DC and change it. However, she might be a voice of reason and provide a sense of every-man for those that are “DC-ified”.
She comes off as a little too folksy for me. Maybe I’m just too “city” for it. And it does seem a little forced, but if that’s what’s drawing people to her, more power to her. That’s politics.
Just so we’re all clear-- ‘folksy’ is a mainstream media and social elite euphemism for ‘hickish’ or ‘porch honky’.
Frankly, it’s pejorative.
[quote]malonetd wrote:
pushharder wrote:
AynRandLuvr wrote:
Toe to toe with a United States Senator of 30 years+ experience and comes out even or better? She’s not only a T-Woman but I’d happily vote for HER for President.
If anything that SHOULD convince someone that her potential is significantly greater than that of The Great Plagiarizer’s.
Yes, Biden can boast of his humble Scranton beginnings but the bottom line is a long term in D.C. will undoubtedly infect you with elitism and a skewed look at the world and your own country. It happened to Biden. It happened to McCain. It would probably happen to Palin.
I’m glad you mentioned that it will happen to Palin, too. This isn’t Mr. Smith Goes to Washington. It’s not a movie. One person isn’t going to walk into DC and change it. However, she might be a voice of reason and provide a sense of every-man for those that are “DC-ified”.
She comes off as a little too folksy for me. Maybe I’m just too “city” for it. And it does seem a little forced, but if that’s what’s drawing people to her, more power to her. That’s politics.[/quote]
You can’t be too “city” and be a packer fan. it’s simply not possible.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Just so we’re all clear-- ‘folksy’ is a mainstream media euphemism for ‘hickish’ or ‘porch honky’.
Frankly, it’s pejoritive.
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Apparently I’ve been using it incorrectly all these years. I didn’t mean offend anyone.
And I’ve never even heard of a “porch honky”
unfortunately i couldnt watch it on tv but i really HATE palin just for being such a conservative bitch (yeah a bitch) and a religious fanatic (e.g. claims that war in iraq was gods will), her teenage daughter is pregnant and she plays it all down,
But i wonder what she would say if obama hat a pregnant teenage daughter (probably something like how can he control america if he cant control his daughter…)
this may sound a bit rough, but thats my opinion, conservatives just want to keep the status quo (like oil supply - war in iraq) instead of improving things for the general public and the rest of the world.
the US as a big powerful nation should really show more responsibility than just raiding countries for cheap ressources
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Just so we’re all clear-- ‘folksy’ is a mainstream media euphemism for ‘hickish’ or ‘porch honky’.
Frankly, it’s pejorative.
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I don’t have a problem with hick. i don’t think I would like to be called a porch honky. redneck is better than that. Here would be my preferense in order:
Hick
redneck
Wood tick - you have to be from way up nort’
hillbilly
Brown toother
Porch honkey
Packer Fan
[quote]dhickey wrote:
You can’t be too “city” and be a packer fan. it’s simply not possible.
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Lol. Then I don’t know what I am. I’m confused – just like Obama.
[quote]dhickey wrote:
SteelyD wrote:
Just so we’re all clear-- ‘folksy’ is a mainstream media euphemism for ‘hickish’ or ‘porch honky’.
Frankly, it’s pejorative.
I don’t have a problem with hick. i don’t think I would like to be called a porch honky. redneck is better than that. Here would be my preferense in order:
Hick
redneck
Wood tick - you have to be from way up nort’
hillbilly
Brown toother
Porch honkey
Packer Fan [/quote]
Cedar Chopper
[quote]malonetd wrote:
dhickey wrote:
You can’t be too “city” and be a packer fan. it’s simply not possible.
Lol. Then I don’t know what I am. I’m confused – just like Obama.[/quote]
You’re half black? You were born a Muslim? You don’t know who your daddy is?
I had no idea.
[quote]
Hick
redneck
Wood tick - you have to be from way up nort’
hillbilly
Brown toother
Porch honkey
Packer Fan
Cedar Chopper[/quote]
I’ve obviously heard of hick and hillbilly but have never used them. I have used redneck in the past. Packers Fan is a compliment and the rest I never heard of.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
malonetd wrote:
dhickey wrote:
You can’t be too “city” and be a packer fan. it’s simply not possible.
Lol. Then I don’t know what I am. I’m confused – just like Obama.
You’re half black? You were born a Muslim? You don’t know who your daddy is?
I had no idea. [/quote]
1 out of 3.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Just so we’re all clear-- ‘folksy’ is a mainstream media and social elite euphemism for ‘hickish’ or ‘porch honky’.
Frankly, it’s pejorative.
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Did you just make porch honky up?
I think that I am going to have to use that.
I think you’re pushing it if you think that calling someone ‘folksy’ is pejorative.