The Next President of the United States: IV

Do you read the things you post?

“Migrants from Muslim-Majority Countries” /=/ “Muslims”

If 1 million Americans migrated to Canada, that wouldn’t mean Canada had imported 1 million white Christians.

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It’s amazing how that such a small % population can cause so many deaths isn’t it?

I don’t know how many or how they got here, but there are way more around now than 5 years ago. I never used to see them around just a few years ago, but now I see one every time I go somewhere. This is not a positive or negative statement, just an observation.

As an aside, my wife works with a Muslim woman who is married to a Jew. Talk about a contradiction! I have heard of such things of course, but I never thought I would ever see something like that personally.
I mean, I think that’s a good thing, but that has to be an interesting family dynamic. Clearly not a devote to sharia…

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Most of those countries are 90%+ Muslim.

It has literally everything to do with the point made. It is the entire point. You contend that we are “importing” Muslims. And even if we are…

What is your position on the U.S. Constitution, raj?

Specifically the part where it says Congress shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion.

That’s literally one of the highest principles espoused by the Founding Fathers.

It’s so important that they put it in the First Amendment.

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That’s assuming that the 1 million are white and Christian.

They don’t “cause so many deaths” in the United States…

With respect to terror attacks

If space were tighter in the US, diverse ethnic groups would probably be more “monolithic,” and There would probably be lots of conflict.

Like in prison.

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Yes. And that given time, they will blend in with natives and previous immigrants, unless they absolutely flood entire regions with the explicit design to erase the previous population. I’m perfectly willing to acknowledge that this is what is happening in Europe, and do not like it.

But the dribs and drabs that Raj is referring to in the US is not the same as a full on attempt at colonization.

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I’m not saying there has been no increase. I believe that there has been, just as the data show.

What I take issue with is raj’s (just like Trump’s) desire to pump up out-of-context statistics to make his message seem stronger. It’s a lot scarier to say that “Obama has imported a million Muslims” than it is to accurately report the statistics with appropriate context. Even the supposed explosion in Muslim immigration that’s coming will take the Muslim population in the U.S. by 2050 from 1 percent all the way to…2 percent.

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The president can ban people from certain countries legally (as Trump puts it countries with a history of terrorism). Right now Obama has actually banned Venezuelan immigrants

Are you sure she just maybe actually likes trump on her own? Contrary to popular belief a lot of women actually like trump.

How many deaths have occurred in terror attacks on US soil perpetrated by a Muslim counted as a part of said 1%?

You didn’t answer the question: what is your position on the First Amendment’s protection of the right to practice freedom of religion?

This seems especially relevant because a large part of your concern seems to be not only the volume of Muslim immigrants, but what they do when they’re here: “the building of mosques is an example of their effect on culture in America.”

Which is why I ask again: what is your position on the First Amendment, and the protection it offers to freedom of religion?

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Yeah. Or the mining patch that my father grew up in. They were separated block by block by ethnicity- Blacks, Scotts/ Irish, Italian, Czech etc.

They eventually mixed. Pretty quickly, actually. Probably after the first couple of beers were poured.

I assumed “gf” had to mean “grandfather,” for exactly this reason.

Well I haven’t looked at the statistics nor the policies that has increased the muslim population in this country so I cannot speak on it intelligently. I can speak out of conjecture and observation, though.
I can say that we need to be careful who we are letting in from that part of the world, meaning the Middle East and Northern Africa. Not all muslims are violent jihadists, but all violent jihadists are muslims. It may not seem fair to consider Christians or Yazidis or Kurds first, but it spits in the face of logic and reason not to vet this type of profiling. None of those other groups have a considerable number within them dedicated to violence, jihad and an exportation of their laws across the expanse of the globe. Though the percentages regarding the varying degrees of extremism amongst muslims seem small, the actual number that translates into is frightfully large. And it’s their own people who suffer the most from their dangerous behavior. Further, it takes a frighteningly small number of ‘bad eggs’ to reak unspeakable disaster.

20 people brought the U.S.A. to it’s knees on 9/11. One man killed 49 people in a nightclub. Some of the Paris attackers were smuggled in as refugees. One man killed 84 people in Nice.
I can say that where there has been a significant increase in the muslim population in Europe, the crime rates have risen and safety and overall well being of the population has significantly declined.

So at this juncture, I can say that I would take care to keep that population emigrating to the U.S. rather small. And by ‘that population’ I mean Middle Eastern/ North African muslims who come from regions known for war and terror, to a minimum, at least for the time being.
If that makes me a bigot, so be it. I am not going to pretend things are not what they are for the sake of being PC.

UMD puts total fatalities between 1995-2014 at 3,264.

Let’s just assume every murder was perpetrated by a US citizen Muslim. In the worst year, 2001, when the worst terror attack in the history of the US occurred .001% of the population was killed in a terror attack.

In 2001, 2,416,425 people died, whic right off the bat is less than 1% of the population (.848%). Less than 1% (.124%) of those 2M were killed in acts of terrorism. More people died from HIV that year (14,113 = .584%). Do you fear sex because “so many deaths” are caused by HIV?

I said months ago and I’ll say it again, this is fear mongering and nothing more.

I’m for it…!!!