Your example is a bit specific.
My wife (in her first maariage) adopted a child that easily fits the second child’s profile. The money, effort, and heartbreak expended, as compared to Jr taking the car out or once getting into the booze, is like saying a summer cold = brain cancer.
The latter, but since Clinton and Trump both fall into this category, isn’t it a push?
Trump just happens never to be have served in public office, so he’s never been FOIA’d, etc., in an effort to scrutinize his actions.
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There is no excuse for confusing those two planes. The 707 was the first jumbo jet for commercial use, has 4 engines on the wings and is vastly larger than the 727. It was a medium to long range jet. Further it was used as Air Force 1 and was a private charter for Led Zeppelin back in the early 70’s. A 727 would never have been commissioned for such duties as it was too damn small.
The 727 is a sardine can where you can barely stand up in and walk down the aisle. Has a 3 engine configuration all at the rear of the plane and used as a short to medium range jet.
As kids go I only have one and he’s a piece of cake. #1 all day, every day.
As political actors and candidates go- Also #1.
What #2 doesn’t realize and probably never will, is that no matter the sophistry employed or tightness of operational security to cover the lie, the truth always seems to surface one way or another. This makes the cover up a huge waste of time and effort, and also makes the person look like a slithering shit worm. Some next level shit worms will even employ others to lie by proxy, but ensure that they don’t know the truth, thus insuring that they can do so convincingly and with confidence.
For example-
Granted, that was pretty brazen, and actually earned him the respect of many for the sheer balls it took to make such a statement, but displays a really cavalier attitude towards trust.
I guess if I were to split hairs I would have to examine the motives of the liar. Are they lying to gain or maintain trust like #2, or is the lie driven by shame like #1? I consider shame a better motive for lying because it at least has the connotation of regret or remorse, but #2 is just straight up criminal behavior. That is just getting permission to either do it once or do it again (what ever “it” may be).
To break from the hypothetical, I’d say Trump is in camp #1. He’s done some stuff he isn’t proud of.
Hillary is in camp #2. She wants permission to do it again.
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Cover that thing up Mr President. Note the lack of offense taken by the female reporters.
LOL. We’re not talking about whether an enemy fighter pilot can identify them, we’re talking about a regular passenger. I flew to Hawaii for my wedding two months ago, took three flights to get back (Kauai - Honolulu, Honolulu - Chicago, and Chicago - Pittsburgh) and cannot tell you anything about the respective planes other than “Uh, the first one was small because it was just an inter-island flight.”
It’s not like they showed the chick a picture of the plane and asked “Was it this one or that one?”
You don’t really think this is common knowledge, do you? I’ve flown probably 50+ times and I’ve no clue what plane I was on… Hell, I worked in aviation in the Corps. and I can barely tell the difference between a hornet & a super hornet.
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The Press Buries Hillary Clinton’s Sins, WSJ by Kimberley Strassel, Oct 13th
If average voters turned on the TV for five minutes this week, chances are they know that Donald Trump made lewd remarks a decade ago and now stands accused of groping women.
But even if average voters had the TV on 24/7, they still probably haven’t heard the news about Hillary Clinton: That the nation now has proof of pretty much everything she has been accused of.
It comes from hacked emails dumped by WikiLeaks, documents released under the Freedom of Information Act, and accounts from FBI insiders. The media has almost uniformly ignored the flurry of bombshells, preferring to devote its front pages to the Trump story. So let’s review what amounts to a devastating case against a Clinton presidency.
Start with a June 2015 email to Clinton staffers from Erika Rottenberg, the former general counsel of LinkedIn. Ms. Rottenberg wrote that none of the attorneys in her circle of friends “can understand how it was viewed as ok/secure/appropriate to use a private server for secure documents AND why further Hillary took it upon herself to review them and delete documents.” She added: “It smacks of acting above the law and it smacks of the type of thing I’ve either gotten discovery sanctions for, fired people for, etc.”
A few months later, in a September 2015 email, a Clinton confidante fretted that Mrs. Clinton was too bullheaded to acknowledge she’d done wrong. “Everyone wants her to apologize,” wrote Neera Tanden, president of the liberal Center for American Progress. “And she should. Apologies are like her Achilles’ heel.”
Clinton staffers debated how to evade a congressional subpoena of Mrs. Clinton’s emails—three weeks before a technician deleted them. The campaign later employed a focus group to see if it could fool Americans into thinking the email scandal was part of the Benghazi investigation (they are separate) and lay it all off as a Republican plot.
A senior FBI official involved with the Clinton investigation told Fox News this week that the “vast majority” of career agents and prosecutors working the case “felt she should be prosecuted” and that giving her a pass was “a top-down decision.”
The Obama administration—the federal government, supported by tax dollars—was working as an extension of the Clinton campaign. The State Department coordinated with her staff in responding to the email scandal, and the Justice Department kept her team informed about developments in the court case.
Worse, Mrs. Clinton’s State Department, as documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act show, took special care of donors to the Clinton Foundation. In a series of 2010 emails, a senior aide to Mrs. Clinton asked a foundation official to let her know which groups offering assistance with the Haitian earthquake relief were “FOB” (Friends of Bill) or “WJC VIPs” (William Jefferson Clinton VIPs). Those who made the cut appear to have been teed up for contracts. Those who weren’t? Routed to a standard government website.
The leaks show that the foundation was indeed the nexus of influence and money. The head of the Clinton Health Access Initiative, Ira Magaziner, suggested in a 2011 email that Bill Clinton call Sheikh Mohammed of Saudi Arabia to thank him for offering the use of a plane. In response, a top Clinton Foundation official wrote: “Unless Sheikh Mo has sent us a $6 million check, this sounds crazy to do.”
The entire progressive apparatus—the Clinton campaign and boosters at the Center for American Progress—appears to view voters as stupid and tiresome, segregated into groups that must either be cajoled into support or demeaned into silence. We read that Republicans are attracted to Catholicism’s “severely backwards gender relations” and only join the faith to “sound sophisticated”; that Democratic leaders such as Bill Richardson are “needy Latinos”; that Bernie Sanders supporters are “self-righteous”; that the only people who watch Miss America “are from the confederacy”; and that New York Mayor Bill de Blasio is “a terrorist.”
The leaks also show that the press is in Mrs. Clinton’s pocket. Donna Brazile, a former Clinton staffer and a TV pundit, sent the exact wording of a coming CNN town hall question to the campaign in advance of the event. Other media allowed the Clinton camp to veto which quotes they used from interviews, worked to maximize her press events and offered campaign advice.
Mrs. Clinton has been exposed to have no core, to be someone who constantly changes her position to maximize political gain. Leaked speeches prove that she has two positions (public and private) on banks; two positions on the wealthy; two positions on borders; two positions on energy. Her team had endless discussions about what positions she should adopt to appease “the Red Army”—i.e. “the base of the Democratic Party.”
Voters might not know any of this, because while both presidential candidates have plenty to answer for, the press has focused solely on taking out Mr. Trump. And the press is doing a diligent job of it.
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I agree with him entirely. I was trying to articulate my thoughts about religious intolerance yesterday and probably not doing very well. He gets to the heart of it.
It think this is open to the public, but please let me know if you hit a paywall.
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The LOL is all this was about. I was not commenting on the veracity of the ‘he said, she said’. Just talking about planes. Planes are pretty. And before 9/11, I used to love to fly.
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The reason the type of plane matters is because it would help to corroborate her story. She said that suddenly the arm rest “disappeared” and his hands were all over her. According to the type of plane that she would have taken at the time and place of the alleged incident, there did not exist an adjustable arm rest. How could an unadjustable arm rest suddenly disappear?
The other questions I have out this would be:
- Does Donald Trump even fly commercial? I thought he would be using a private jet
- She said something weird about how if he had kept his hands in her upper region she would have probably been okay with it. Is she saying her shakers were fair game but this twat’s twat was where the line was drawn? If so doesn’t that draw suspicision? Maybe she just felt slutty afterwards and complaining about sexual assault is her way of showing buyers remorse.
- How could no one possibly notice this going on? Even if people are fooling around consensually there are stewardesses walking up and down the aisle and other passengers in close proximity. You can’t just openly fool around like that.
- Do people really get bumped up to first class from economy? With the exorbitant prices of 1st class tickets vs economy I always thought that was more of a fabrication out of hollywood and never really happens.
- Didn’t she say she had no idea who Donald Trump was prior to the incident and a man just introduced himself as such? It’s not uncommon for men to lie about who they are in efforts to get laid. Perhaps a man with a passing resemblance to Trump just lied and made a move. If she recognized him from the outset, I wouldn’t feel this way.
Clearly, you’re impartial here…
Really? I always make it a point to know what kind of plane I am on. The DC9 is the worst plane currently used, it’s even smaller than the 727 there is so little room in it and of course they try to stick 5 more rows of seats than the plane can handle. The 777 is like a Cadillac. It’s a big, smooth technically sophisticated plane with plenty of room, usually. But nothing beats the 747. That’s just a supertanker of an aircraft. Take off is a hoot at take off because it sinks before it lifts. It gets my stomach every time.
I can tell most planes by looking at them, but differences between a 757 and 767 or an Airbus can sometimes be hard to tell apart if they are not right next to each other.
I always read the little plane packet that is in the seat pocket because each model of plane has different variations. I just like mechanical things I guess.
You don’t get it, and you’re wasting your time.
He’s on the record describing himself as having a grope first ask questions later approach, and then these reports (not just this particular one) come pouring in. Stick a fork in him, he’s done.
Honestly, this was all foreseeable from some of his statements in past interviews. Just his attitude and personality alone should have been a major red flag. “This guy is going to give her ammunition.” He was easily seen as the worst possible candidate to put against Hillary. The Hillary Clinton campaign dream opponent.
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Lol, ya. I’ve honestly never once thought about it.
almost forgot: The writer of this story has already been caught writing a hoax article against Trump relating to sexual misconduct. She did a story on his former gf rowanne brewer and lied and was caught
Is it a stretch to say the WSJ can include itself in this coverup?
I have no doubt that NYT, WaPo, Gannett and the several major networks would be forced to at least give mention to these things, if the most trusted across the board news source were asking ‘wth is with these thousands of email drops?’.
Trump is a silver spoon, lecherous, dense, egotistical blowhard. Great, we got the memo 24/7 for a year.
But if the press is this corrupt, they desire to pilloried right next to the evil object of their desire.
This country has sown a wind and will reap a whirlwind.
God have mercy on us.
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We’ll see. Ultimately if he loses I’m hoping he starts a new party. I honestly believe the GOP is done
I’m with usmcc. I have no idea what type of plane I fly on when I travel other than 747 (I think) having a second compartment because thats more obvious.
Wow, I even look to see whether the engines are GE or Rolls Royce. I prefer the latter, just because Rolls Royce is cooler than GE.