It’s the new conservatism.
New Conservativism Mission Statement:
It’s totally cool to grow the government because Pats Suit is worse.
He’ll get the money from “eliminating unemployment insurance fraud”
Lol, right…
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I think that is distinctly possible, but I wouldn’t trust anyone saying that–I remember all the scare tactics about Brexit crashing their economy forever and the same was said about Reagan. The Tangerine Tornado is no statesman–or mature adult–whatsoever, not even fit to hold "old Reagan"s adult diapers. But I don’t know that a 10% contraction is realistic whatsoever.
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I agree these are generally success of his. No doubt about that, but there’s really no way for us to quantify how successful he’s been with this information and isn’t that where the debate lies? How successful is Donald Trump really? Remember, this is only really an issue because Trump and his supporters are consistently pointing to how successful he’s been (I’m worth billions… 12 Billion. I hugely successful, etc…) as a qualifier for him being President. [/quote]
Why do you need an exact figure to validate his level of success? Why isn’t his wealth and the success of his company enough?
There’s this belief that anyone who starts with a pile of money will naturally be successful. As I’ve mentioned before plenty of people have started with money and completely fail. 60% of NBA and NFL players declare bankruptcy only a few years after retiring and to date I don’t know of any examples of lottery winners turning their millions into billions. There are however examples of lottery winners who eventually went broke.
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This is often stated in terms of how well he’ll handle the economy, grow jobs, etc…, but we’ve seen his thoughts on a number of economic topics, such as tariffs that should give anyone with a general understanding of international economics (something that isn’t going anywhere anytime soon) pause. [/quote]
You’re referencing that Moody’s analytics paper again? You know the head of that report Mark Zandi advised Barack Obama and endorsed the TPP?
Also I have yet to see one of these anti-Trump’s economic policy even mention the benefits of tariffs to an economy. They do offset other taxes like say income tax which Trump is suggesting a decrease. They do increase domestic unemployment as domestic firms move in to fill the gap left by foreign firms (yes prices increase but welfare payouts decrease).
Edit: Didn’t it also say the US would hurt it’s reputation as being an “open friendly nation” if it deported illegal immigrants? That was a major red flag for bias right there.
So this belief that Trump economic policy will crash the US is nothing but a canard.
Gonna stop here this is the same discussion we had a couple months back
What do you mean? Trump has been branded as the next hitler who will crash the economy. With hyperbole like this you can’t have an honest discussion about these smaller policy decisions
I agree that 10% is unrealistic. Congress isn’t going to just roll over and let him have his way. I think stagnation is a very real possibility.
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Old purity cult conservatism: invite the world, invade the world and betray your constituents by practically implementing every democrat policy
No reasonable person has said he’s the next Hitler nor has anyone said he’ll “crash” the economic.
Talk about hyperbole.
Not true I’ve seen it in this thread
Completely absurd, lol anyway.
Where? This should be good.
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Hitler is mentioned 9 times in this thread. 4 were today by me and you.
It all depends on how much tribute Yego Imperatorskoye Velichestvo Tsar Putin of AfroEurasia is demanding at that point. I’m sure President Trump will have gotten us a relatively good deal. That’s kind of his thing.
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Not sure why you are calling this absurd when it is the Neocon playbook. Or as several members on here say endlessly, it is real conservatism.
At the same time, the isolationism and societal structure encouraged by Protestantism of Christian moraity, thrift, hard work that defined the US until post WW2 ( & going into overdrive with Reagan/Bush onward) are derided as “Alt-Right”.
Not everyone in US is hyper Hamilton/Wilsonian (hat tip to smh for term), particularly fly over, practicing Protestants, or blue collar.
More likely Jacksonian - you do your thing, I’ll do mine, don’t jack with me or I’ll finish what you started.
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One was max talking about hitler being beaten, “Something you won’t find in a history book, after Hitler was beaten, Italians cheered as American tanks roamed through the streets of Rome with soldiers throwing Hershey chocolate bars to the crowds of cheering locals. One of those kids was my dad.”
Next is you quoting him.
Next is treco saying essential the same as Raj, Trump is being branded as Hitler, “If he says I will take the ultimate stance of removing immigrants and walling them out - he is Hitler or Stalin heartless fucking psycho idiot ruining the GOP
If he walks it back a notch - he is panderer, not a Conservative, can’t win who has ruined the GOP”
Next two are you and me quoting Treco.
That’s the other 5 times he’s mentioned.
The only way to explain it is Raj is creating a straw man that he can actually argue with because he can’t actually articulate the point correctly (most likely), or he actually perceives people as saying things that he wants them to say so he believes he is right. Raj, which is it?
Speaking of Brexit, there is no effect on jobs or the economy as of yet. It may still be too early to tell, but the sun is still rising on the land of bad teeth.
["The unemployment rate was 4.9%, down from 5.5% a year ago and little changed from last month’s rate, Office for National Statistics (ONS) data shows.
Nearly three quarters of people who can work have jobs, a record high rate.
Employment was “resilient” before and after the EU vote, despite predictions of an economic shock, analysts said.
Kallum Pickering, an economist at Berenberg, said: “Although it is still early days, the UK labour market is yet to show any Brexit effect for the period immediately before and after the June 23 vote.”
His analysis of the ONS data showed that unemployment fell to 4.7% in July, the first month since the vote."]
[“Far from being hampered by the uncertainty surrounding the vote, the British economy accelerated in the three months through June, driven by strong consumer spending, a big improvement in industrial production, and business investment. And the picture has remained positive, albeit not as rosy, since then, with preliminary data showing manufacturing and services holding up well, and retail sales stronger than expected.”]
Powell also seemed to say in 2015 that he believes there “is something to” concerns about Clinton’s health.
According to emails highlighted by Intercept reporter Lee Fang, back in March 2015, Democratic donor Jeffrey Leeds emailed Powell and said Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) recalled a joint event in which, according to Leeds’s recounting of Whitehouse’s comments, “[Clinton] could barely climb the podium steps.”
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See here…
Endless invasions and betraying constituents is conservatism…?
That is sad yet at the same time she apparently doesn’t care about the country knowing she is in poor heath.