You are thinking of Bismark that is not my bag baby…
Keep swinging TB…or should I say older nastier dumber version of TB?
@pushharder I see it as vetting the eventual Republican nominee and nothing more. I mean, he/she would be the one that many of us (at least I) would likely vote for. Doesn’t it make sense for us to push Trump harder than Clinton (who I wouldn’t vote for unless Stalin was resurrected as her opposition)?
Well, no, that wasn’t the point you were making with the Dresden example, you were saying there was a historical predicate for Trump’s anti-terror strategy.
But more importantly, you’re bothered by the fact that someone will complain about Trump but not Hillary - so what? No one is required to and it isn’t hypocritical or inconsistent to complain about one but not the other with the same amoumt of intensity…
…because if it were, you’d be guilty of the same sin. You vomit up diatribes for Clinton, but why your own rationale, shouldn’t you being doing the same against Trump?
In short, you’re not living up to the very standard you say is required of others.
Not to begin with. He only had some loose evidence and perhaps motive. He then painstakingly put it together piece by piece while the people in power at the time, who were all republicans, dodged and weaved and covered for each other until he finally got to the bottom of it.
As I said you can take Panetta’s word I am not and for good reason.
Oh, but it is, Zeb - surely you haven’t already forgotten your attempts to pass along misinformation about claims made by Obama re: Muslims that you learned from one of these sordid emails, but that you tried to pass off as information you yourself learned from reading Obama’s book?
So, was Judge Jeanine the author of those emails you plagiarized? Just curious, but should be an easy answer. Thanks in advance.
And no, Zeb, I’m the same old Thunderbolt (for better or worse) - I have just been a lot slower than others around here to discover your true colors.
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Your memory is no better than your debating skills as of late. You are referring to a quote that I gave full credit to!. What you didn’t like was the fact that it was from a questionable source. And if you actually recall correctly I agreed with you. The source misquoted the Obama book leaving out critical information. When I am wrong…SO UNLIKE YOU…I admit it.
And as long as we are talking PWI history there was an aftermath to that encounter.
Instead of answering me line by line as was our normal practice you tried to change the subject several times. Cherry picking certain items and neglecting to give a good retort to many others. And you did this because you had no answers. History TB!
You tried to restart that debate over and over again until it was to your liking. But I never gave you the opportunity to do so. In fact, I am surprised that you would even make a reference to that particular discussion…the one you began…the one you ran away from…the one where you had no answers…Yeah that one.
The main problem I have with Hillary’s e-mail being exposed, is not whether or not she sent classified e-mails (maybe she did)… but the sheer volume of her correspondence that foreign analysts could get at.
Think about it, China/Russia/ISIS psychiatrists, and other human analysts had ACCESS to our Secretary of State’s (and perhaps future president’s) inner thoughts and ruminations.
How priceless would that analysis be to them during tense negotiations.?
They probably know how her mind works at this point better than she does.
So you are slower than most is that what you are saying?
LOL
Seriously, you are pitiful TB a shadow of your former self seriously. Go back and look at some of your earlier posts a few years after you joined.
What the hell happened to you anyway?
Divorce? Alcohol?
Hey…I don’t know but something happened it was something not good.
Low fucking blow dude.
Keep that kind of shit out of this forum…no need for it here.
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You are spot on and that is only one sorry episode in her political life that should disqualify her to become POTUS.
No, my memory is fine, as is everyone else’s who remembers your shameful attempt. But seriously, was Judge Jeanine the author of the email, or no?
Also re: “normal practice” of going “line by line”: yes, until I’ve determined that it’d be a waste of my time. If I elect not go line by line, it’s not because I can’t, it’s because I’ve gotten bored and don’t think it’s worth it.
And that’s what happened with you - and happens with you, and not just by me. If you had any self-awareness, you’d pick up on this.
So, Judge Jeanine - author of the email? I’m genuinely curious.
Panetta was not vested in Obama’s re-election. He was only serving as SecDef for one term and said he would not be back. He has also been critical of Obama on many occasions. He had no reason to lie. Neither did Buck McKeon who agreed with Panetta that there was nothing more that could have been done.
He didn’t lie. He said we “may” have been able to help and we should have tried. That’s his professional opinion.SecDef has access to more information than a 1 star general. That isn’t a dig at Robert Lovell, it’s just a fact. As far as I know Lovell wasn’t even involved in the day’s events.
Like who?
There have been 21 committee over the course of three and a half years and zero proof has come out to the contrary of what Leon Panetta has stated.
It’s a monumental lack of judgement for sure. If the dems had even a half way decent field it would be enough to end her bid to be president. I still can’t believe Biden didn’t get in. I know he was mourning the death of his son, though.
I’d like to know why I should take her word over others about Benghazi as well.
Imagine if we had access to ten’s of thousands of Putin’s personal e-mails…classified or not, it would be a treasure trove of psychoanalytic info.
And yet, I have heard nobody bring this up…must not be sexy enough.
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Low fucking blow dude.
Keep that kind of shit out of this forum…no need for it here.
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Agreed, but it did not bother me personally. I got a chuckle out of it, frankly.
But let it shine as Exhibit A as to the poor and low character of Zeb, so finally clear in its display. This is why free speech is wonderful - it shows people for who they truly are.
Pitiful. And shameful. But predictable.
I think the fact that she had the unprotected server is enough to disqualify her in my book.