The Next President of the United States: III

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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I was referring to the Westborough BC analogy (population 42)…people ALWAYS go there and say SEE CHRISTIANS ARE TEH EVILZ TOO…look I get that 1.4 of the 1.6 BILLION muslims are probably good peeps.

But that leaves 200 MILLION jihad johnny’s who want to see christianity/judaism/buddhism burn.

200 million vs. 42

That was my point

And let us not forget that simply because all muslims are not strapping the road flares to their chests, does NOT mean that they do not approve of those that do. The polls of Muslim countries shows that overwhelmingly they support the actions of these freak shows.

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See my response to USMMC above, 200 million vs. 42

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[quote=“anon50325502, post:3148, topic:212571, full:true”]

So? That’s got nothing to do with what I wrote. [/quote]

It clearly has everything to do with what you wrote. You can clearly identify the people committing these crimes.

[quote=“anon50325502, post:3148, topic:212571, full:true”]
Manteen was AMERICAN. He was born IN AMERICA. Letting Muslim’s into the country and Mateen’s actions are not correlated at all.[/quote]

HIS PARENTS WERE MUSLIMS LET INTO THIS COUNTRY. That’s the point

[quote=“anon50325502, post:3148, topic:212571, full:true”]
Leviticus 20:1-2
Then the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, "You shall also say to the sons of Israel: 'Any man from the sons of Israel or from the aliens sojourning in Israel who gives any of his offspring to Molech, shall surely be put to death; the people of the land shall stone him with stones.

Leviticus 24:13-14
Then the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, "Bring the one who has cursed outside the camp, and let all who heard him lay their hands on his head; then let all the congregation stone him.

Deuteronomy 13:6-10
"If your brother, your mother’s son, or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul, entice you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods’ (whom neither you nor your fathers have known, of the gods of the peoples who are around you, near you or far from you, from one end of the earth to the other end), you shall not yield to him or listen to him; and your eye shall not pity him, nor shall you spare or conceal him.

Deuteronomy 17
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.[/quote]

Let one of Christians reading this thread clarify this for you but I was told followers of Christ are supposed to ignore the Levitical Law of the Old Testament because it deals with local, time sensitive issues that were specific to the nation of Israel.

At the end of the day Christians are not committing mass genocide, they are not strapping bombs to their retarded children in an attempt to blow up their enemies.

This is not the case in Islam.

[quote=“anon50325502, post:3148, topic:212571, full:true”]

You don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. [/quote]

Great argument . Wonderful economic discussion.

[quote=“anon50325502, post:3148, topic:212571, full:true”]
I’m against giving the government carte blanche authority to shut freedom of speech down because their scared of their own shadow. [/quote]

Shutting down terror cells modes of communication. Again great hyperbole.

[quote=“anon50325502, post:3148, topic:212571, full:true”]

You don’t know what you’re talking about. [/quote]

Great argument again

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Muslims provide absolutely NO Value to America for this reason I do not want their population to increase.

Again a reminder of what happens when a muslim population grows

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Can someone please answer me what specific value Muslims bring to America?

Edit: 100,000 middle eastern immigrants come to the US EVERY YEAR

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This is not the argument that needs making…immigrants bring a lot to their new countries.

Legal immigration needs to be emphasised and enforced. Check those whom we would allow into our country.

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I don’t know that I can agree with this, but the rest of your post was really good

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I’m talking from a tactical, self-interested politician approach rather than from a policy perspective. I don’t know that I agree that Ryan thinks Trump will actually be better policy wise, but I’m not talking about poliicy in that post–I was talking about what Ryan sees in it for him.

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Would like to add a couple points:

  1. Trump has revised his muslim ban to saying it would apply “only to travelers from regions connected to terrorism” - This is a classic Trump/negotiator tactic where you start with an incredibly high ask then negotiate down.

  2. The “Omar Mateen was AMERICAN!” all cultures are equal should know that 1st and 2nd generation immigrants are MORE prone to radicalization than 0 generation immigrants.

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And what value do you provide as an immigrant? Why shouldn’t we send your ass back to wherever you came from and fill your job with an unemployed American?

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Your grasp of business, accounting, and economics is very limited from what I’ve read. Why would should I spend my time putting forth the argument, again? You won’t listen and you certainly won’t take the time to think about it.

You’ve bought Trumps bullshit as hard as any Bernie supporters has bought his.

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Understand, I thought you were agreeing that there was no difference amongst Muslims.

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If the government asked me to leave I would. Unlike illegals and visa overstays I understand that as a non-citizen I am but a guest in America.

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I hold a degree in Econ and finance…

Putting the credential posturing aside isn’t that what happens when a tariff is imposed on imported goods?

Say as an example Mexico imports Chicken breasts into America and Trump slaps an import tariff on this item.

The demand for Mexican chicken breasts would drop and people would substitute with a cheaper substitute good like say domestic chicken thighs. The importation of Mexican chicken breasts wouldn’t completely stop but it would be limited.

The risk here is that Mexico could do the same thing to American goods that are imported into Mexico . But since there is a huge trade imbalance into the country it would still work in the US’s favour

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Well, you should ask for your money back then because if you understond anything about macro economics you’d understand the implications of placing tariffs on 4+ major importers while being a net importer.

Might want to dust your books off…

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Didn’t Reagan put a huge tariff on Japanese motorcycles to protect Harley Davidson?

How did that work out?

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How in the world would Trump, as president, “open up” the scope of libel laws?

Dead serious question looking for an answer from Trump apologists.

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http://studygig.com/uploads/materials/tariffs

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A Republican with some fucking balls, wow…

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