[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
LOL…“close up the Internet”
I’m not a Trump fan at all. In fact, I wish he would pack up his dog and pony show and go home.
But…
That’s not even close to what he actually said. [/quote]
“We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that internet up in some way.”
Donald Trump
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“THAT” internet in “SOME” way.[/quote]
It’s vague to be sure, but I don’t think what Paul said takes Donald’s words out of context. Paul just said Trump wants to shut the internet down and that that would interfere with the 1st. I think that’s a fair criticism. I know later Trump did say he mean’t in Syria and other places outside of the U.S., but there’s no way Paul or anyone could of know that is what he mean’t especially since he was talking about American’s joining ISIS basically because of their reach through the internet at the same time. The CNN link I posted shows the full clip and I think, like you said, the context is important. [/quote]
I don’t understand why people have such a difficult time understanding this, and other, Trump “atrocities.” I watched the debate live. I heard what Trump said and I understood it to mean what later clarification said it to mean. Why do so many other people struggle so much? [/quote]
Because I’m referring to what he said prior to the debate on December the 8th (it’s in the CNN link I posted earlier and that is what Paul was referring to I believe).
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Same goes with his “They’re rapists” and other comments.
And I’m not a Trump supporter. I don’t really like the guy; I’m a Southerner and he is the classic Yankee fat mouth that many Southerners viscerally despise.
Can’t folks figure out that he’s unscripted and belts out what initially seems to be hyperbole but later proves to be reasonable stuff?
His “shut down the internet” comment is exactly that. Why the fuck would we NOT shut down internet access, if we could, to an area wherein lie the bastards we are at war with? Can you imagine if we’d had the internet during WWII and folks started gnashing their teeth at the idea of us eliminating internet access to Nazi Germany? Can you imagine us NOT putting a temporary hold on German, Italian and Japanese immigrants?
The answer is our society is now such a sensitive bunch of pussies, collectively speaking, and political correctness has overwhelmed us to such a degree that some of the “reasonable” things Trump is saying now seem preposterously hyperbolic. Most everybody has such a hair trigger nowadays about being offended – it’s ridiculous and I ain’t buyin’ in to that nonsense.
And I’m not a Trump supporter.[/quote]
Well, I for one believe not only is about 80% of what Trump has proposed non-sense rhetoric that will never happen, but it’s down right dangerous to us. I can only go off what the man says. When he says we need to go after the families of terrorists, that’s dangerous. Collateral damage is one things, but he’s talking about specifically targeting the families of enemy combatants. Can you imagine the United States of America intentionally trying to kill the families of Japanese solders in WWII to dissuade them from being kamikazes? It’s unthinkable really. I hope we’re better than that. When he says we should explore ways to shut the internet down why would anyone infer he meant in Syria? If you watch his speech on the 8th you can see he was talking about ISIS using the internet to recruit Americans and that is what he wants to stop. He could of very easily meant shutting the internet down in San Bernadino for all we know. Yes, he later clarified, but I don’t put as much stock in after the fact clarifications as I do in original statements. I think there’s usually more truth in the former.
No, I’m with Paul on this one. These types of things are slippery slopes that lead to less freedom for the sake of temporary security and our rights have already been eroded to a great degree.
