[quote]Drew1411 wrote:
I’m not sure where I should be going to get exposed to anti-gay people,[/quote]
So… Being wrong about gay people now means your anti-gay?
Does being wrong about economics mean you’re anti education?
Is Hilary Anti-gay? Or because she’s towing the polling line is she now pro-gay?
Do you consider the left and their anti-wealth and success as anti-success and hate hyping?
How is being wrong about whether something a choice automatically hate?
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Drew1411 wrote:
I’m not sure where I should be going to get exposed to anti-gay people,[/quote]
So… Being wrong about gay people now means your anti-gay?
Does being wrong about economics mean you’re anti education?
Is Hilary Anti-gay? Or because she’s towing the polling line is she now pro-gay?
Do you consider the left and their anti-wealth and success as anti-success and hate hyping?
How is being wrong about whether something a choice automatically hate?
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If you are stating that being gay is a choice, with no evidence to support that claim, I read that as anti-gay. Maybe there are some people who are anti-gay and don’t hate gay people, but I have not seen that. In that case, no, they are not equal. I’m not tying wrong choice = hate. Sorry for the derail.
And yes, I do think the left hypes going after the rich as a solution to their problems. Speaking in generalities, they believe the rich got that way off by exploiting the poor.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Drew1411 wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Drew1411 wrote:
I’m saying that I’m baffled that he is getting so much support on the Republican side with that view.
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You need to get out more. I’m not being insulting, I’m just saying I don’t think you understand that a large portion of Republican voters don’t share your views about the subject.
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I’m not sure where I should be going to get exposed to anti-gay people, and frankly, I don’t want to be associated with hate hyping right wingers. I think a large portion of republicans are against gay marriage, but I think thats different than saying being gay is a choice.[/quote]
Why are you insisting that someone who questions “gay choice,” especially with the dearth of scientific evidence, automatically hates gays?[/quote]
Someone who hates gays views being gay as a choice. I concede the point that viewing being gay as a choice does not automatically mean you hate gays, but it is a possible indicator.
To get back on track after my point that Carson/Trum say ridiculous things…
Biden is NOT going into the race. Seems to lock up the dem side for Clinton.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Biden will not jump in the race, he just announced from the White House.
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I can imagine the immense amount of behind the scenes wrangling that must’ve taken place.[/quote]
How fantastical would it be if Hillary now got indicted ? I would shit out a pink unicorn. [/quote]
I think the fact that he didn’t jump in points to her NOT getting indicted
He would have the inside scoop on what the DOJ is thinking … I take his decision as he would have to be fighting her for the nomination, and it won’t just be handed to him (with her absent)
I think she should be tho …
[quote]Drew1411 wrote:
To get back on track after my point that Carson/Trum say ridiculous things…
Biden is NOT going into the race. Seems to lock up the dem side for Clinton.[/quote]
Yes and this puts Obama in an interesting position. He hates Hillary, but at the same time has to support the Democratic candidate. Hillary also needs his base, but could face trouble if she tries to distance herself from his failed policies.
I see Hillary now moving to right a bit, trying to win moderates. I wonder if Liberals will now cry about their candidate who is an old white war-mongering multi-millionaire.
[quote]Velvet Elvis wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Biden will not jump in the race, he just announced from the White House.
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I can imagine the immense amount of behind the scenes wrangling that must’ve taken place.[/quote]
How fantastical would it be if Hillary now got indicted ? I would shit out a pink unicorn. [/quote]
I think the fact that he didn’t jump in points to her NOT getting indicted
He would have the inside scoop on what the DOJ is thinking … I take his decision as he would have to be fighting her for the nomination, and it won’t just be handed to him (with her absent)
I think she should be tho …
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Of course, but the longer the FBI investigates and keeps it as front line news, the longer it stays in the minds of independent voters.
Carson did not say the victims in the Oregon shooting should of fought back. He said, if he were in that situation, he would not have cooperated. He didn’t blame the victims. This is a media driven non-controversy.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
This is a media driven non-controversy.[/quote]
GASP!
No, the media would NEVER do that to a Republican… would they?
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
This is a media driven non-controversy.[/quote]
GASP!
No, the media would NEVER do that to a Republican… would they?[/quote]
Lol, I know right.
[quote]Drew1411 wrote:
To get back on track after my point that Carson/Trum say ridiculous things…
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Drew, there is one thing that you are either not aware of or have forgotten. Both Trump and Carson along with the other republican candidates are fighting for the nomination. Who votes in the republican primaries? The far right. Just like Hillary is constantly moving to the left because the fare left determines who gets the democrats nomination. Hillary claiming now that she is a progressive, talking down the Canadian pipeline, talking up planed parenthood even after they sold baby parts! Are you disgusted with all of that as you are Carson’s comments? Maybe not because you lean center left, or perhaps you are just confusing reality with politics.
Each is trying to lure the far ends of the party to nominate them. Also, if they are successful each will move back to the center.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Drew1411 wrote:
To get back on track after my point that Carson/Trum say ridiculous things…
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Drew, there is one thing that you are either not aware of or have forgotten. Both Trump and Carson along with the other republican candidates are fighting for the nomination. Who votes in the republican primaries? The far right. Just like Hillary is constantly moving to the left because the fare left determines who gets the democrats nomination. Hillary claiming now that she is a progressive, talking down the Canadian pipeline, talking up planed parenthood even after they sold baby parts! Are you disgusted with all of that as you are Carson’s comments? Maybe not because you lean center left, or perhaps you are just confusing reality with politics.
Each is trying to lure the far ends of the party to nominate them. Also, if they are successful each will move back to the center.
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Zeb, I’ll lean left on social issues, but not even close on fiscal. You keep harping against Hillary, I have never said one good thing about her. I have said all democratic candidates are far left, I have talked about Hillary being a liar, that the best way to defund planned parenthood is to get a republican in the white house, and any of the free college nonsense the democratic candidates are talking about does not add up. Please don’t put words in my mouth just because I don’t think Carson and Trump are good candidates. I have not forgotten who votes in primaries, I’m well aware. I’m stating that I don’t like the extremist politics when there are much better candidates who don’t give ammo to the democrats by saying stupid things.
You can argue against my comment that Carson/Trump say stupid things, but just because Hillary is a terrible candidate doesn’t make them good ones.
Watching some of the Hillary/Benghazi hearing, I cannot understand how this woman can just sit there quietly while someone accused her of being directly responsible for the death of 4 Americans. If she was truly innocent, she would not just sit there, but would show some degree of anger and not just sit there and dither. I know I would get after Gowdy to the point where he asked me permission to go to the bathroom. This woman is monstrous in her apathy, pretty scary if you ask me.
I know it has turned in to a left bashing thread as they all do but back to The Next Prez
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I know it has turned in to a left bashing thread as they all do but back to The Next Prez
Yes, back to the next president.
[quote]Drew1411 wrote:
I’m stating that I don’t like the extremist politics when there are much better candidates who don’t give ammo to the democrats by saying stupid things.[/quote]
And I am trying to explain to you that they are saying those things to attract the far right whether they believe them or not. Just like any candidate of either party does.
Okay, take care.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Watching some of the Hillary/Benghazi hearing, I cannot understand how this woman can just sit there quietly while someone accused her of being directly responsible for the death of 4 Americans. If she was truly innocent, she would not just sit there, but would show some degree of anger and not just sit there and dither. I know I would get after Gowdy to the point where he asked me permission to go to the bathroom. This woman is monstrous in her apathy, pretty scary if you ask me. [/quote]
She’s been very well coached and knows if she gets past this and the FBI gives her a pass she could still win.
Just a power hungry woman.