The Next President of the United States: II

Here is a link to the WSJ article that usmccds423 posted above ^

http://www.wsj.com/articles/ceo-fiorina-fought-the-good-fight-1439939185

What are everyone’s thoughts on Ms. Fiorina as president of this American republic?

My take, she would be far better than any democrat [of my lifetime] but just because she was with HP, that is not a reason to support her as a leader of our country. That is not based on anything about the HP company. America is very different than a computer company, no matter what size. Unless someone shows me how I am mistaken ; )

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
As far as foreign policy disasters

the 3 biggest I can think of are

1 Jimmy Carter removing the Shaw

2 George Bush Removing Saddam

3 Obama removing Gaddafi [/quote]

  1. Obama handing Iran 150 billion dollars and not even getting our hostages back.

  2. Obama treating Israel like an enemy.

  3. Obama withdrawing troops from Iraq far too early which helped create Isis

  4. Obama allowing Putin to take the Ukraine without barely speaking a word.

Okay, I will have to stop there because I am late for an appointment. But, Obama has been the absolute worst foreign policy President in modern times. He has no equal!

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Se Zeb where you and I part ways is Israel and America are guilty of war crimes and the only reason we/Israel get away with it is America’s economic/political/military might.

As far as the Iran deal , I like what Ron Paul said “It is our best chance that America won’t attack Iran”

You want me to address 25 points , what the fuck you think I live behind this key board ?

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

How do you explain that the middle class has shrunk more under Obama than under Bush?
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Well when Bush was President the economy was heading into the great abyss. And Obama turned out to be as establishment as Bush was . You have to admit Bush took the rains from Clinton the economy was humming along , at the end of Bush’s run it was in a spiral
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Hold on Pitt, if you think the economy is any better now than when Bush was President I would advise that you stop smoking whatever it is you are smoking:

"The percentage of Americans that own homes is dropping rapidly. According to Gallup, the current level of homeownership in the United States is the lowest that Gallup has ever measured.

The average duration of unemployment in the United States is about three times as long as it was back in the year 2000.

Back in 2007, about 10 percent of all unemployed Americans had been out of work for 52 weeks or longer. Today, that number is above 30 percent.

In November 2008, 30.8 million Americans were on food stamps. Today, more than 46 million Americans are on food stamps.

The U.S. national debt has risen by more than 5 trillion dollars since the day that Barack Obama first took office. In a little more than 3 years Obama has added more to the national debt than the first 41 presidents combined.

Now throw in his multitude of foreign policy disasters and you have the worst President in US history!


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Pitt,

You will not address the above because you have no answer. I have found that those who really wish Obama delivered are in a state of denial.

You cannot attack the Bush economic record without at least tipping your hat to how very bad Obama is.

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Zeb post your point , if it is small enough for me to address I will do my best

this is why I like Trump

[quote]tedro wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
CEO Fiorina Fought the Good Fight
http://www.wsj.com/articles/ceo-fiorina-fought-the-good-fight-1439939185[/quote]

I don’t have a WSJ subscription so I can’t read the full article, but it seems like this must be all about her great “achievements” at HP.

Fiorina drove that company into the ground. If she wasn’t a woman, the HP/Compaq deal would rate almost as high as AOL/Time Warner as far as corporate mistakes go - but she gets a pass for being a woman CEO for a major company and still fails to accept her responsibility in the matter.

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I don’t have a subscription either. They must of locked it for some reason. It’s actually about why HP’s failures during her tenure make her a strong candidate. I’m not sure who’s giving her a pass?

She didn’t drive HP into the ground anyway. Capitalism did that.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
As far as foreign policy disasters

the 3 biggest I can think of are

1 Jimmy Carter removing the Shaw

2 George Bush Removing Saddam

3 Obama removing Gaddafi [/quote]

  1. Obama handing Iran 150 billion dollars and not even getting our hostages back.

  2. Obama treating Israel like an enemy.

  3. Obama withdrawing troops from Iraq far too early which helped create Isis

  4. Obama allowing Putin to take the Ukraine without barely speaking a word.

Okay, I will have to stop there because I am late for an appointment. But, Obama has been the absolute worst foreign policy President in modern times. He has no equal!

[/quote]

Se Zeb where you and I part ways is Israel and America are guilty of war crimes and the only reason we/Israel get away with it is America’s economic/political/military might.

As far as the Iran deal , I like what Ron Paul said “It is our best chance that America won’t attack Iran”

[/quote]

http://www.icc-cpi.int/en_menus/icc/about%20the%20court/frequently%20asked%20questions/Pages/13.aspx

What war crimes have the US and Israel committed?

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

How do you explain that the middle class has shrunk more under Obama than under Bush?
[/quote]

Well when Bush was President the economy was heading into the great abyss. And Obama turned out to be as establishment as Bush was . You have to admit Bush took the rains from Clinton the economy was humming along , at the end of Bush’s run it was in a spiral
[/quote]

Hold on Pitt, if you think the economy is any better now than when Bush was President I would advise that you stop smoking whatever it is you are smoking:

"The percentage of Americans that own homes is dropping rapidly. According to Gallup, the current level of homeownership in the United States is the lowest that Gallup has ever measured.

The average duration of unemployment in the United States is about three times as long as it was back in the year 2000.

Back in 2007, about 10 percent of all unemployed Americans had been out of work for 52 weeks or longer. Today, that number is above 30 percent.

In November 2008, 30.8 million Americans were on food stamps. Today, more than 46 million Americans are on food stamps.

The U.S. national debt has risen by more than 5 trillion dollars since the day that Barack Obama first took office. In a little more than 3 years Obama has added more to the national debt than the first 41 presidents combined.

Now throw in his multitude of foreign policy disasters and you have the worst President in US history!


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Pitt,

You will not address the above because you have no answer. I have found that those who really wish Obama delivered are in a state of denial.

You cannot attack the Bush economic record without at least tipping your hat to how very bad Obama is.

[/quote]

Zeb post your point , if it is small enough for me to address I will do my best[/quote]

My point is simple. Obama has the worst foreign policy record of any President. So, next time you want to make a list of what Presidents should not have done make sure you include his many failures.

Clear?

Deez Nutz is making quite a showing in North Carolina.

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
As far as foreign policy disasters

the 3 biggest I can think of are

1 Jimmy Carter removing the Shaw

2 George Bush Removing Saddam

3 Obama removing Gaddafi [/quote]

  1. Obama handing Iran 150 billion dollars and not even getting our hostages back.

  2. Obama treating Israel like an enemy.

  3. Obama withdrawing troops from Iraq far too early which helped create Isis

  4. Obama allowing Putin to take the Ukraine without barely speaking a word.

Okay, I will have to stop there because I am late for an appointment. But, Obama has been the absolute worst foreign policy President in modern times. He has no equal!

[/quote]

Se Zeb where you and I part ways is Israel and America are guilty of war crimes and the only reason we/Israel get away with it is America’s economic/political/military might.

As far as the Iran deal , I like what Ron Paul said “It is our best chance that America won’t attack Iran”

[/quote]

http://www.icc-cpi.int/en_menus/icc/about%20the%20court/frequently%20asked%20questions/Pages/13.aspx

What war crimes have the US and Israel committed?[/quote]

America’s torturing prisoners while it may not be illegal I believe it is so much more cowardly to use drones than to suicide bomb

Israel 51 day war , the whole Gaza West Bank situation

I know it is not a GOP approved sight

8,500,000,000,000 / 318,000,000 = $ 26729 is what that star spangle prick costs every man women and child years 2000-2012

Wait til we invade Iran and Russia and what the fuck North Korea:)

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I know it is not a GOP approved sight

8,500,000,000,000 / 318,000,000 = $ 26729 is what that star spangle prick costs every man women and child years 2000-2012

Wait til we invade Iran and Russia and what the fuck North Korea:)[/quote]

I think this is why Trump and Bernie Sanders are resonating so well with people right now. People seem to be REALLY sick and tired of the same old song and dance. People also see that Dems and Repubs are more alike than they portray. Personally, I would love to see one huge flush of our government. Just a massive bowel-busting purge of all these fucks.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I know it is not a GOP approved sight

8,500,000,000,000 / 318,000,000 = $ 26729 is what that star spangle prick costs every man women and child years 2000-2012

Wait til we invade Iran and Russia and what the fuck North Korea:)[/quote]

I think this is why Trump and Bernie Sanders are resonating so well with people right now. People seem to be REALLY sick and tired of the same old song and dance. People also see that Dems and Repubs are more alike than they portray. Personally, I would love to see one huge flush of our government. Just a massive bowel-busting purge of all these fucks.
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Word:)

http://www.bernieforprezz.com/republicans-for-bernie/why-a-republican-is-voting-for-bernie-video/

It is worth watching

Trump throws out Univision anchor Jorge Ramos from press conference. This is good lol.

[quote]OldOgre wrote:
Deez Nutz is making quite a showing in North Carolina.[/quote]

El Rushbo talking about Deez Nutz poll numbers was one of the funniest ten minutes in radio.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Newt nails it. The things being said now about Trump are almost verbatim what was being said about O’ Hickory in the 1820s and 30s.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/trump-andrew-jackson-president-2016/2015/08/27/id/672260/[/quote]

At this point I would not be completely shocked by a Trump v. Biden choice this election cycle. Trump might fall out of favor, but right now he’s kicking everyone’s ass on the GOP side of the fence. And Hillary appears more vulnerable as every day passes.

“When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.”

–Hunter S. Thompson, “Fear and Loathing at the Super Bowl” (Rolling Stone #155).

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
At this point I would not be completely shocked by a Trump v. Biden choice this election cycle. Trump might fall out of favor, but right now he’s kicking everyone’s ass on the GOP side of the fence. And Hillary appears more vulnerable as every day passes.
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Assuming Biden runs, there is no reason to think it won’t be Trump vs Biden at this point. Trump doesn’t seem to be changing much in polls and typical stuff that makes people lose votes he does on a daily basis so it will take something big to move him. Given that Hillary keeps going down in numbers and this article indicates Biden is getting near top contender status.