The Next President of the United States: II

[quote]Mufasa wrote:

Hillary’s age and health is a legitimate concern.

Mufasa[/quote]

Her mental health?

I’m sure you guys have seen the wear that being president puts on someone. She couldn’t even handle being SoS, literally every single thing got fucked up, Libya, ISIS, Benghazi, almost the entire Middle East, Ukraine/Russia.
In Obama’s words she’s “on the wrong side of history

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Mufasa wrote:

Hillary’s age and health is a legitimate concern.

Mufasa[/quote]

Her mental health?[/quote]

She watched her husband cheat on her openly for 30+ years…that cannot be healthy on the ol’ head bean.

Just to be clear:

  1. While there is sure a lot of “momentum” for Hillary to run…she still may not. (Make all the snide comments you want).

  2. If she DOES run…she can be beat…and Jeb could be the one to do it.

Mufasa

She wants that presidency, she wants to be the first female, her ego needs it. If she does win, I think it will probably kill her, given her age, health, and the stress of the job. Look at any president before and after their term, they look much, much older.
I’d rather not have Jeb.

[quote]Mufasa wrote:
Just to be clear:

  1. While there is sure a lot of “momentum” for Hillary to run…she still may not. (Make all the snide comments you want).

  2. If she DOES run…she can be beat…and Jeb could be the one to do it.

Mufasa[/quote]

I have a feeling this election will be lower voter turnout and everyone is voting against the opposing party rather than for their candidate. I’ve seen a lot of liberals criticize Hillary and make it a point that they would never vote for her EXCEPT in the main election just so a democrat still wins.

You almost have to wonder about his patriotism given what he’s said on open borders immigration that he wrote with some radical libertarian. Hillary could paint herself as tougher on border security than Jeb. They come here for love! Good grief. Sickening. Illegal immigration is the big issue for voters and quite frankly, it’s an existential question for the republic itself. The country literally will not be recognisable if this thing isn’t turned around; none of our values; alien cultures; Balkanisation. People don’t want America to become like Brazil with seething crime ghettos. They don’t want hundreds of thousands of radical Somali Muslims suddenly dumped on them. The states are sick and tired of the federal agencies refusing to enforce the law. Tropical diseases eradicated in the country 50 years ago or never seen before are popping up all over the country wherever the Obama buses drop off the Honduran and El Salvadorian and Guatemalan strangers.

The GOP can win this maybe. As I’ve pointed out in the past and as someone has pointed out above the redistricting and changing demographics are making it increasingly hard for the GOP to swing certain states; Floria in particular. But if they have any chance at all they’ve got to pick a conservative candidate who will excite the base and appeal to Americans’ deep concerns about illegal immigration, the economy and Barack [i]Hussein[/i] Obama’s disastrous wreck of a foreign policy.

And the best candidate on immigration? Ted Cruz for sure. No one wants Bush 3.0 They Come Here For Love! No one will buy that shit no matter how much they try to sell it to the GOP. And just watch. As soon as the establishment mannequin wins the primary his “severe conservative” agenda goes out the window along with the will of the people who elected him and he starts trying to sell himself as a leftist to the increasingly small and marginalised left. Bush 3.0 would be an idiotic mistake for the GOP. It would be a third time loser fake conservative failing to sell himself as a leftist to the leftists. If there is any hope left for America to claw its way back from tyranny it has to get serious tea party candidates in the House and Senate and a Republican Presidential nominee must be someone prepared to play on the electorates legitimate fears about immigration.

[quote]MattyG35 wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:
This is exactly my opinion (except I’m too classy to call gay people fags). My social beliefs tend to be liberal but I vote conservative because our country needs a strong economy and to be a force no body will fuck with.

I disagree with JR about moral values progressing to a more enlightened nature. When radical Islam’s succeed in getting The Bomb and are able to sneak devices into every major US city and detonate them all at once, our enlightened western culture will be gone. Europe will fall like a house of cards when that happens. Then it will be down to the Chinese and the Muslims. Not much progression there.[/quote]

Hey onedge, you ever see this video,

While I’m not buying everything he says about China’s political system, i do think he brings to light some interesting points with respect to meritocracy and the political system.
Definitely worth checking out IMO[/quote]

LOL I found this interesting but are you trying to reassure me that when North America gets vaporized, moral progression will be in good hands with China?

[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Here’s number 7 and 8.
7. With her stroke (or whatever the hell it was) and age, she won’t be able to keep up in any debates, she’s going to keep using empty emotive language that will get old and she’ll have to dance around the questions, just like her and her supporters here

Here she lists nothing but bullshit

Young dummies can’t name shit

Psaki, in charge of WH pres can’t name any accomplishments

MSM can’t name her accomplishments, this will get played lots when the time comes, and people will laugh. No one wants to vote for a dud.

  1. Smart power, hahaha, considering her time as SoS was a complete failure, this will become a meme of being stupid.[/quote]

What did Obama accomplish before getting elected?

[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
I’m sure you guys have seen the wear that being president puts on someone. She couldn’t even handle being SoS, literally every single thing got fucked up, Libya, ISIS, Benghazi, almost the entire Middle East, Ukraine/Russia.
In Obama’s words she’s “on the wrong side of history”[/quote]

Matty, can you give the context of that statement? Did he say that when they were running against each other?

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
I’m sure you guys have seen the wear that being president puts on someone. She couldn’t even handle being SoS, literally every single thing got fucked up, Libya, ISIS, Benghazi, almost the entire Middle East, Ukraine/Russia.
In Obama’s words she’s “on the wrong side of history”[/quote]

Matty, can you give the context of that statement? Did he say that when they were running against each other?[/quote]

He didn’t actually say that, I was just mocking a quote of his that he made about Putin. Basically Hillary’s failures as SoS put her on “the wrong side of history” because she failed at her job, and is therefore, on the wrong side. Hope that makes sense.

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]MattyG35 wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:
This is exactly my opinion (except I’m too classy to call gay people fags). My social beliefs tend to be liberal but I vote conservative because our country needs a strong economy and to be a force no body will fuck with.

I disagree with JR about moral values progressing to a more enlightened nature. When radical Islam’s succeed in getting The Bomb and are able to sneak devices into every major US city and detonate them all at once, our enlightened western culture will be gone. Europe will fall like a house of cards when that happens. Then it will be down to the Chinese and the Muslims. Not much progression there.[/quote]

Hey onedge, you ever see this video,

While I’m not buying everything he says about China’s political system, i do think he brings to light some interesting points with respect to meritocracy and the political system.
Definitely worth checking out IMO[/quote]

LOL I found this interesting but are you trying to reassure me that when North America gets vaporized, moral progression will be in good hands with China?[/quote]

lol no no, the propaganda in the video is a bit much, I just thought the merit-based ascension of politicians is an interesting concept

[quote]on edge wrote:
What did Obama accomplish before getting elected?[/quote]

Not a whole helluva a lot. I assume you’re indicating that accomplishment isn’t necessarily a pre-requisite to a successful presidential bid?
If so, there is a key difference. Obama hadn’t failed as much as Hillary. Afaik, people were under the impression of Obama that he was a successful community organizer, not quite relevant in the big picture as far as accomplishments go, but also not a negative strike against him.
Hillary on the other hand has had the ME, and Ukraine/Russia blow up on her watch, with Americans dying from her lack of foresight.

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Illegal immigration is the big issue for voters and quite frankly, it’s an existential question for the republic itself. The country literally will not be recognisable if this thing isn’t turned around; none of our values; alien cultures; Balkanisation.

…a conservative candidate who will excite the base and appeal to Americans’ deep concerns about illegal immigration, the economy and Barack [i]Hussein[/i] Obama’s disastrous wreck of a foreign policy.

As soon as the establishment mannequin wins the primary his “severe conservative” agenda goes out the window along with the will of the people who elected him…[/quote]

Although I believe your point is legitimate; the cynic in me suspects that American politics hasn’t served the desires of the American people for some time now. Politics is economics by other means, and the interests that manage the economy are no longer restricted by borders and have no reason to focus on matters within them. Neither the GOP or the Dems will allow a candidate that is anything but a mannequin and both have created conditions that all but eliminate the possibility of a serious third party.

[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Illegal immigration is the big issue for voters and quite frankly, it’s an existential question for the republic itself. The country literally will not be recognisable if this thing isn’t turned around; none of our values; alien cultures; Balkanisation.

…a conservative candidate who will excite the base and appeal to Americans’ deep concerns about illegal immigration, the economy and Barack [i]Hussein[/i] Obama’s disastrous wreck of a foreign policy.

As soon as the establishment mannequin wins the primary his “severe conservative” agenda goes out the window along with the will of the people who elected him…[/quote]

Although I believe your point is legitimate; the cynic in me suspects that American politics hasn’t served the desires of the American people for some time now. Politics is economics by other means, and the interests that manage the economy are no longer restricted by borders and have no reason to focus on matters within them. Neither the GOP or the Dems will allow a candidate that is anything but a mannequin and both have created conditions that all but eliminate the possibility of a serious third party.
[/quote]

Seriously…if you have one more post with your avi of you on a beach while the rest of us freeze our balls off…lol

I’d love to see Mike Rowe get into Maryland politics.