The Never-Ending Fascination with Tiger

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[quote]biglifter wrote:
Seriously. Someone explain this to me, as I just don’t get it. I won’t even touch on moral failings, but what is the allure of someone who can walk up to a non-moving target and hit it pretty well? Do people wet their pants over him because they once played a drunk round of golf and feel they can now somehow relate? How does the word athlete end up alongside his name? How does a 3 under par performance draw millions of viewers and a bench/squat/deadlift manages to draw a few family members and curious onlookers? Someone shed some enlightenment here.[/quote]

I’m sorry you are a fucken moron my friend…You clearly have no idea about the game of golf, or any understanding of it. It is by FAR the hardest sport to master.

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no, it’s a motor sport

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[quote]ilr614 wrote:

[quote]biglifter wrote:
Seriously. Someone explain this to me, as I just don’t get it. I won’t even touch on moral failings, but what is the allure of someone who can walk up to a non-moving target and hit it pretty well? Do people wet their pants over him because they once played a drunk round of golf and feel they can now somehow relate? How does the word athlete end up alongside his name? How does a 3 under par performance draw millions of viewers and a bench/squat/deadlift manages to draw a few family members and curious onlookers? Someone shed some enlightenment here.[/quote]
I’m sorry you are a fucken moron my friend…You clearly have no idea about the game of golf, or any understanding of it. It is by FAR the hardest sport to master.[/quote]

No, actually you tip the fucking moron scale because you don’t know how to read a question. My question was about the ongoing fascination with Tiger Woods. Golf is amazingly simple to understand and I don’t dispute it’s hard to master due to the high level of skill needed. Try to figure out what I’m trying to say here douchebag. Everyone else who replied did.

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[quote]ilr614 wrote:

[quote]biglifter wrote:
Seriously. Someone explain this to me, as I just don’t get it. I won’t even touch on moral failings, but what is the allure of someone who can walk up to a non-moving target and hit it pretty well? Do people wet their pants over him because they once played a drunk round of golf and feel they can now somehow relate? How does the word athlete end up alongside his name? How does a 3 under par performance draw millions of viewers and a bench/squat/deadlift manages to draw a few family members and curious onlookers? Someone shed some enlightenment here.[/quote]
I’m sorry you are a fucken moron my friend…You clearly have no idea about the game of golf, or any understanding of it. It is by FAR the hardest sport to master.[/quote]

way to go retard.

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[quote]biglifter wrote:
Seriously. Someone explain this to me, as I just don’t get it. I won’t even touch on moral failings, but what is the allure of someone who can walk up to a non-moving target and hit it pretty well? Do people wet their pants over him because they once played a drunk round of golf and feel they can now somehow relate? How does the word athlete end up alongside his name? How does a 3 under par performance draw millions of viewers and a bench/squat/deadlift manages to draw a few family members and curious onlookers? Someone shed some enlightenment here.[/quote]

its just a sport that you happen to not appreciate, which is fine. i dont like golf either, but i know it’s hard as fuck and he’s the best. it just happens to be not-so-aerobic. you could argue that baseball isn’t that much more aerobic than golf, really, but at least there’s some running. (and i love baseball btw)

just like tony hawk is incredible, but lots of people don’t consider skateboarding a sport either. or kelly slater and surfing.

soccer is the number 1 watched sport in the world, but i know few americans who give 2 shits about it. and find me 1 american who follows cricket and i’ll give you a KFC Double Down.

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[quote]metal.head wrote:

[quote]biglifter wrote:
Seriously. Someone explain this to me, as I just don’t get it. I won’t even touch on moral failings, but what is the allure of someone who can walk up to a non-moving target and hit it pretty well? Do people wet their pants over him because they once played a drunk round of golf and feel they can now somehow relate? How does the word athlete end up alongside his name? How does a 3 under par performance draw millions of viewers and a bench/squat/deadlift manages to draw a few family members and curious onlookers? Someone shed some enlightenment here.[/quote]

its just a sport that you happen to not appreciate, which is fine. i dont like golf either, but i know it’s hard as fuck and he’s the best. it just happens to be not-so-aerobic. you could argue that baseball isn’t that much more aerobic than golf, really, but at least there’s some running. (and i love baseball btw)

just like tony hawk is incredible, but lots of people don’t consider skateboarding a sport either. or kelly slater and surfing.

soccer is the number 1 watched sport in the world, but i know few americans who give 2 shits about it. and find me 1 american who follows cricket and i’ll give you a KFC Double Down.
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Good post. For all intents and purposes, soccer is THE sport. But fuck soccer.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]metal.head wrote:

[quote]biglifter wrote:
Seriously. Someone explain this to me, as I just don’t get it. I won’t even touch on moral failings, but what is the allure of someone who can walk up to a non-moving target and hit it pretty well? Do people wet their pants over him because they once played a drunk round of golf and feel they can now somehow relate? How does the word athlete end up alongside his name? How does a 3 under par performance draw millions of viewers and a bench/squat/deadlift manages to draw a few family members and curious onlookers? Someone shed some enlightenment here.[/quote]

its just a sport that you happen to not appreciate, which is fine. i dont like golf either, but i know it’s hard as fuck and he’s the best. it just happens to be not-so-aerobic. you could argue that baseball isn’t that much more aerobic than golf, really, but at least there’s some running. (and i love baseball btw)

just like tony hawk is incredible, but lots of people don’t consider skateboarding a sport either. or kelly slater and surfing.

soccer is the number 1 watched sport in the world, but i know few americans who give 2 shits about it. and find me 1 american who follows cricket and i’ll give you a KFC Double Down.
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I’ve played golf and I’ve played baseball and there is no comparison when it comes the amount of athleticism required to be a good player. Now “skill” is a different word. It takes skill to do either well.[/quote]

yeah, i get it…but baseball aint no basketball, or soccer, or rugby in the way of being physically demanding.

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He’s an ANOMALY.

Not only does he dominate in a way no one has in the game before, he is young and black (you know what i mean) in a sport for old white guys.

Look at the attention Kwame Nkrumah Acheampong got at the winter Olympics just recently. He was rubbish at skiing. But people are like “A skier from Ghana…oooooooooh”

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Trying to stay as objective as possible, Tiger, is for all intents and purposes, considered an athlete because unlike his counterparts, he actually puts in the work of an athlete to do what he does. He trains his body and mind for his SPORT. He actually trains to hit the ball as hard as he does. He trains so as not to throw his back or knees out during the swing motion.

He is the reason a lot of people pay attention to golf nowadays. This is the exact reason why his personal and professional life is under a microscope. He brought popularity to a sport that previously was seen as something non-athletic white guys and retirees did for pleasure.

As far as defining a sport from a game, some go hand and hand. Soccer is a game/sport. Football is a game/sport. They just happen to involve offense and defense. Pch2 made the statement that playing/competing against an environment does not make a sport. Tell that to Lance Armstrong. Tell that those who participate in marathons, or triathlons, or cross-country running/skiing. Just some food for thought.

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It is a sport that people can play at an old age, same for tennis. That is why tennis is so popular.

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[quote]WormwoodTheory wrote:

[quote]stockzy wrote:
You need to define what is a game and what is a sport.
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i did.

a game is against the game.

a sport is against others playing the sport.

golf is against the course, or the game. football is against your opponent.[/quote]

Does this definition make chess a sport? I personally have no problem with the wording - the fact is that a great level of exertion (mental, physical, whatever) is required.

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[quote]metal.head wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]metal.head wrote:

[quote]biglifter wrote:
Seriously. Someone explain this to me, as I just don’t get it. I won’t even touch on moral failings, but what is the allure of someone who can walk up to a non-moving target and hit it pretty well? Do people wet their pants over him because they once played a drunk round of golf and feel they can now somehow relate? How does the word athlete end up alongside his name? How does a 3 under par performance draw millions of viewers and a bench/squat/deadlift manages to draw a few family members and curious onlookers? Someone shed some enlightenment here.[/quote]

its just a sport that you happen to not appreciate, which is fine. i dont like golf either, but i know it’s hard as fuck and he’s the best. it just happens to be not-so-aerobic. you could argue that baseball isn’t that much more aerobic than golf, really, but at least there’s some running. (and i love baseball btw)

just like tony hawk is incredible, but lots of people don’t consider skateboarding a sport either. or kelly slater and surfing.

soccer is the number 1 watched sport in the world, but i know few americans who give 2 shits about it. and find me 1 american who follows cricket and i’ll give you a KFC Double Down.
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I’ve played golf and I’ve played baseball and there is no comparison when it comes the amount of athleticism required to be a good player. Now “skill” is a different word. It takes skill to do either well.[/quote]

yeah, i get it…but baseball aint no basketball, or soccer, or rugby in the way of being physically demanding.
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Try flinging pitches all day long and maintain your accuracy and speed. And your shoulder will give you a definition of demanding. Sure, it might not be as demanding as those other sports listed but if you do it right, it can take the piss out of your body.

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The man keeping another Asian man down.

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[quote]Beast27195 wrote:
Trying to stay as objective as possible, Tiger, is for all intents and purposes, considered an athlete because unlike his counterparts, he actually puts in the work of an athlete to do what he does. He trains his body and mind for his SPORT. He actually trains to hit the ball as hard as he does. He trains so as not to throw his back or knees out during the swing motion. He is the reason a lot of people pay attention to golf nowadays. This is the exact reason why his personal and professional life is under a microscope. He brought popularity to a sport that previously was seen as something non-athletic white guys and retirees did for pleasure.

As far as defining a sport from a game, some go hand and hand. Soccer is a game/sport. Football is a game/sport. They just happen to involve offense and defense. Pch2 made the statement that playing/competing against an environment does not make a sport. Tell that to Lance Armstrong. Tell that those who participate in marathons, or triathlons, or cross-country running/skiing. Just some food for thought.[/quote]

This is a very good post/explanation.

Top-level competitors in any field are there because of a) talent and b) hard work. People who seem to think that playing golf is somehow easy (in in many cases, not taxing on the body) think this because they aren’t required to smack that ball repeatedly over 100s of yards. I reckon that if you played it as regularly as a professional, it’d be a matter of time before you were in bed with a pulled back or a busted knee, and then you’d be wondering how “easy” it really was to play golf.

I naturally tend to categorise between “disciplines” and “sports” even though this distinction isn’t necessary. Disciplines such as track, field, cycling, rowing, lifting which rely less on responding to the opponent are ones where you tend to push the body further in terms of exertion.

Ball sports generally require a different skill-set. Yet there are quite a few which also put a great burden on the body. Changing direction quickly ie american football, and real football (yes it is!) means that you’re always a millisecond away from tearing your fucking knees out.

Respect to any and all to take part in any of these sports/disciplines because in each case, a different mix of bodily control and strength is required.

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Golf is a sport, just like track and field is a sport. Golf is the number 1 sport PLAYED in the world. More poeple play golf than any other sport hands down, it’s not even remotely close. This rich old white guy myth is retarded. Since golf is the number 1 played sport, it also has the deepest depth of talent.

I mean if you look at football for a second. Football is only played in the US predominantly. You have some pop warner and pee wee leagues, then you have junior high and high school. People get cut from teams usually at that level, so at the high school level, not everyone who can play does. Go to the next level, college, and even less people have an opportunity to play. Now go up another notch and you have the pros. The nuber of people playing football in a given year would be the equivalent of the number of people playing golf in myrtle beach for a month.

Tiger being better than everyone at golf more impressive because of how many people play golf and never reach even the tour level let alone the level of dominating on the tour. And even out of the people who have dominated on the tour, he is the best.

A few things about golf and athleticism. It is possible to play golf with little athleticism, but it helps a WHOLE lot if you have good athleticism. Two guys at my local course who you would look at and say “not athletes” are big overweight guys. The thing is when they were younger, they were local baseball and football stars, so even though they are out of shape they still have tremendous power balance and hand eye coordination. It’s also no surprise these guys are both very good golfers. One of them is scratch.

I’m going to make an assumption and it may or may not be true. Anyone who bags on golf, has either never played or they have played a time or two and sucked miserably at it. I can understand the frustration, but just because you can’t break 100 for 9 holes doesn’t mean it’s a stupid game. It’s awsome, it really is. I mean as far as i’m concerned, my saturdays with our group of 20-30 guys playing all day scrambles is the best it gets. I mean you are out in nice weather, drinking some beers, busting balls, watching some great shots, making some of your own. It’s just awsome, and if any of you think you can’t have a great time playing golf, I beg you to contact me, come in for a weekend and play golf with me and my friends on saturday, you will leave with a newfound respect and possibly love for the game and what it can do.

V

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[quote]Vegita wrote:
Golf is a sport, just like track and field is a sport. Golf is the number 1 sport PLAYED in the world. More poeple play golf than any other sport hands down, it’s not even remotely close. This rich old white guy myth is retarded. Since golf is the number 1 played sport, it also has the deepest depth of talent.

I mean if you look at football for a second. Football is only played in the US predominantly. You have some pop warner and pee wee leagues, then you have junior high and high school. People get cut from teams usually at that level, so at the high school level, not everyone who can play does. Go to the next level, college, and even less people have an opportunity to play. Now go up another notch and you have the pros. The nuber of people playing football in a given year would be the equivalent of the number of people playing golf in myrtle beach for a month.

Tiger being better than everyone at golf more impressive because of how many people play golf and never reach even the tour level let alone the level of dominating on the tour. And even out of the people who have dominated on the tour, he is the best.

A few things about golf and athleticism. It is possible to play golf with little athleticism, but it helps a WHOLE lot if you have good athleticism. Two guys at my local course who you would look at and say “not athletes” are big overweight guys. The thing is when they were younger, they were local baseball and football stars, so even though they are out of shape they still have tremendous power balance and hand eye coordination. It’s also no surprise these guys are both very good golfers. One of them is scratch.

I’m going to make an assumption and it may or may not be true. Anyone who bags on golf, has either never played or they have played a time or two and sucked miserably at it. I can understand the frustration, but just because you can’t break 100 for 9 holes doesn’t mean it’s a stupid game. It’s awsome, it really is. I mean as far as i’m concerned, my saturdays with our group of 20-30 guys playing all day scrambles is the best it gets. I mean you are out in nice weather, drinking some beers, busting balls, watching some great shots, making some of your own. It’s just awsome, and if any of you think you can’t have a great time playing golf, I beg you to contact me, come in for a weekend and play golf with me and my friends on saturday, you will leave with a newfound respect and possibly love for the game and what it can do.

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Exactly! All of that! Also, the time it takes getting through a course is often too much for many “athletes” and they give up. Absolutely not an easy game. And definitely a sport. Athleticism helps a great deal as well as co-ordination.

Most of all, I think you’re right about the “depth of talent.” And this is why his dominance is even more incredible. He has simply fought off many more opponents to get to where he is.

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I’d like to make a correction, Golf it seems is not the most played sport, at 50-60 million, players. Soccer is estimated to be at 700-800 million. With that being said, golf is still growing very rapidly. It is very new to china and they are building coarses over there in the order of hundreds per month.

V