[quote]WormwoodTheory wrote:
you don’t have someone in bowling trying to block your shots. you don’t have to change tactics based on their actions. There is no offense and defense in bowling. So to me, bowling is not a sport.
does anybody here agree with me or am i really out of line? because none of this sounds crazy to me.[/quote]
What about ski racing? No defense involved. Seems pretty athletic to me.
I don’t think you need to play a sport to be an athlete. Further, how is darts different from being a pitcher or a batter. You’re just hitting a ball outta the air/throwing a ball. Once the ball is hit, the pitcher rarely does something. Tiger is an athlete since golf is an athletic event. you cant be uncoordinated and golf, though Charles Barkely shows you can be coordinated and not golf. So an athlete doesn’t have to play a sport
[quote]metamorphic wrote:
[quote]WormwoodTheory wrote:
you don’t have someone in bowling trying to block your shots. you don’t have to change tactics based on their actions. There is no offense and defense in bowling. So to me, bowling is not a sport.
does anybody here agree with me or am i really out of line? because none of this sounds crazy to me.[/quote]
What about ski racing? No defense involved. Seems pretty athletic to me.[/quote]
to play a sport you must be an athlete, but to be an athlete you don’t have to play a sport.
a square is a rectangle, but a rectangle is not a square.
[quote]Kanada wrote:
I don’t think you need to play a sport to be an athlete.
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I’ll have to take your word on that one. I think the debate is between endeavors of skill vs. physically demanding sports.
[quote]Kanada wrote:
how is darts different from being a pitcher or a batter. /quote]
the dart board is an inanimate object. it’s not a variable. a pitcher and a batter, two people from opposite teams, are competing. one wants the ball over the fence, the other once the ball in the catcher’s mitt. opposing factions, opposing agendas.
the dart board is the objective. you don’t play football against goal posts.
You need to define what is a game and what is a sport.
[quote]stockzy wrote:
You need to define what is a game and what is a sport.
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i did.
a game is against the game.
a sport is against others playing the sport.
golf is against the course, or the game. football is against your opponent.
edit: re-read posts… which made mine irrelevant.
[quote]WormwoodTheory wrote:
[quote]stockzy wrote:
You need to define what is a game and what is a sport.
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i did.
a game is against the game.
a sport is against others playing the sport.
golf is against the course, or the game. football is against your opponent.
regardless, that’s not the point of this thread, and I’ve derailed it for far too long. my apologies.[/quote]
Maybe we need to go the devil’s advocate route. Does anyone think Tiger IS an athlete (and may you burn for all eternity)?
[quote]biglifter wrote:
[quote]WormwoodTheory wrote:
[quote]stockzy wrote:
You need to define what is a game and what is a sport.
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i did.
a game is against the game.
a sport is against others playing the sport.
golf is against the course, or the game. football is against your opponent.
regardless, that’s not the point of this thread, and I’ve derailed it for far too long. my apologies.[/quote]
Maybe we need to go the devil’s advocate route. Does anyone think Tiger IS an athlete (and may you burn for all eternity)?
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I would call him an athlete, but as dominating as he’s been, I would take into account those who are much more athletic when determining who is the best overall.
WELL
I’d say an athlete is anyone with considerable skill and drive in a sport or game. So according to what i believe (which i’ve spent the last page and a half prattling on about)
…yes. he is an athlete. BUT he’s an athlete in a sport dominated by geriatrics. So it’s kind of like being the State Shuffleboard Champion. all in all not very impressive, although he is better at golf than me.
Kinda like that one kid who can stack cups in o.7 seconds. Okay, yeah, you’re better at that than me but who fucking cares? you’re stacking cups.
/\ Great point. Who you compete against makes a huge difference in the argument.
I still say his recent ‘trangressions’ required more athletic ability than what he does on the course, but I digress.
[quote]biglifter wrote:
I still say his recent ‘trangressions’ required more athletic ability than what he does on the course, but I digress.[/quote]
Bullshit, anyone can piss on strippers!
[quote]biglifter wrote:
I still say his recent ‘trangressions’ required more athletic ability than what he does on the course, but I digress.[/quote]
lol agreed.
[quote]PaddyM wrote:
/\ Great point. Who you compete against makes a huge difference in the argument.[/quote]
Bull shit. If you’re such a stud young buck, go show them fogeys how to golf.
So, the best we can do is say a bunch of old white guys are the reason he is popular? Someone throw in a damn conspiracy theory or something…
[quote]msd0060 wrote:
[quote]PaddyM wrote:
/\ Great point. Who you compete against makes a huge difference in the argument.[/quote]
Bull shit. If you’re such a stud young buck, go show them fogeys how to golf.[/quote]
I was speaking in terms of athleticism, not skill.
The most popular sports are more about wearing the clothes and the social status than true passion. Although usually the top athletes are passionate about it, the fanbase follows this pattern.
sport
Function: noun
Date: 15th century
1 a : a source of diversion : recreation b : sexual play c (1) : physical activity engaged in for pleasure (2) : a particular activity (as an athletic game) so engaged in
According to Merriam-Webster, golf is a sport. It is a physical activity and/or sexual play in Tiger’s case.
What we think of as sport is different according to each person’s view. I don’t think that driving a car around a track 500 times is much of a sport, but those guys have to be in amazing shape to endure that kind of punishment.