When she got to someone that actually seemed interested in giving her his motivation, she interupted him and then walked away.[/quote]
What happened at that point? (about 2:20)? It seemed like there was some pushing going on and then the guy says, “Can you stop this sir” and she walked away from that part.
She was definitely unprofessional. There were some serious tensions before the clip started it seemed. When the clip ended the crowd was shouting something at her and someone was putting a flag of some sort in her face (while another protester moved it to get his poster on camera).
VERY poor showing on her part. She should have told headquarters that she was unable to go live at that point. Her temper was flared and she came off worse than the crowd did.
Pretty much agree with that GL, except that I didn’t really notice anything more than simple crowd noisiness until she started shouting down the guy with the kid. After that point I think everyone around her got very angry and started in on her (“can you stop this sir” might be the camera man trying to keep someone away).
Personally I would have an extremely hard time keeping my temper if showed that kind of blatant disrespect for my views on national television, so I don’t view any of the crowd reaction as “excessive”. In fact I’m rather glad they stood up for him, even if they weren’t very articulate or were rather angry.
[quote]dhickey wrote:
PB-Crawl wrote:
dhickey wrote:
Fergy wrote:
“Why is he a fascist?”
“Because he is”
“No, ‘why’ is he a fascist?”
“He just is.”
LOL, smrt people.
Must be a converted liberal. Probably didn’t know what a fascist was when he thought bush was one.
most likely the case. ron paul did pull a lot of “radical” bandwaggoners into the movement from liberal organizations, i suspect a lot of these protesters are those exact people. Small governement code pink ect.
yep. Plenty of idiots following Ron Paul. I would dare to say a good portion of them don’t even have the capacity to understand his book or message. They just like the anti-war part. At any rate, it’s better to have to idiots voting for the better candidate and supporting the better policy. Even if they don’t really know what they are voting for or supporting.
This is why it’s very important to come up with tangible props or examples they can identify with. Something along the lines of what the libs rhetoric entails. Very shallow and not requiring much thought.
Do you want to pay your neighbors mortgage?
Do you want to pay for free cell phones for criminals?
Do you want to pay for lobster mating reseach?
Do you want your childeren to have to pay trillions of dollar in debt?
None of these questions gets to the heart of the issue, but this is all most have the ability, or more likely the desire, to comprehend. Conservatives (not Republicans) need to dumb it down a bit.
The tea party was probably started by those that know exactly what we are fighting against, but chances are most that attend only see the outer most layers.
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
Yeah, the protesters didn’t sound the brightest, but I’d bet you she didn’t look for the most intelligent looking. Plus it’s tougher when you’re put on the spot. But that hardly excuses the behavior now does it?
mike
I’m sure she wasn’t looking for the brightest people and the whole thing was really a dig at Fox however if I cared enough about something to go out and protest, you can be damn sure that I could give you the elevator pitch of why I was protesting.
I think to some degree you are underestimating the “surprise” factor that comes with being picked at random out of a crowd and asked questions – or more accurately in this case shouted down. It makes many normally articulate, well spoken people into bumbling idiots. I’ve been that guy once before. As soon as the microphone left I smacked myself in the forehead and thought of a million and one different analogies and examples of what it was I wanted to say. Nada while on camera. No, this wasn’t recent and no this wasn’t related to politics.
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Fair comment however if I was at a protest, I would be pushing in front of the reporter and delivering my agenda. That is why you are there surely. Most people who I have seen attending protests seem to be there more for the day out.
I think this one should go with are the Republicans stupid, oh I meant crazy. If some one disagrees with your average Republican, he is unpatriotic, a liberal or socialist. There is no possibility that the person could have a valid point if it does not fit in with the Republican Dogma
IMO, this is the correspondent’s fault. If she really wanted to know the reasons why the guy thought BO was a fascist, she should’ve rephrased the question, not just asked it again. Good reporters are always interviewing people and asking better questions to draw out more answers. Questions like ‘Can you elaborate on that?’ or ‘By fascist do you mean…(corporatist, anti-capitalist, nationalist, social interventionist, social darwinist,etc.)?’.
But to be fair, I’m not a professional CNN journalist, I’m just some guy off the street who only took one semester of journalism in college.
Thanks for that post jawara…let’s see how long that one lasts…hopefully CNN can’t take that one down.
I’ve got to say this was pretty shocking. That crowd was not happy, but it’s the CNN reporter’s job to have some sort of crowd management skills. Had she simply taken some time beforehand to ask for the crowds help to get their message out, then the crowd themselves would have protected her from the more radical elements… or if they were unable she could have shown that and been more authentic. Poor showing.
I remember years ago there was some sort of Iraqi war protest going on in downtown Milwaukee. I was on my way to work and stopped to watch and read some of their signs. Some news reporter mistook me for a protester (although I’ve no idea how) and got in my face with a camera and some rapid fire questions. My only response at the time was to tell her how unprofessional she was being and suggest she should ask before pointing a camera at someone… That was some local station though, CNN SHOULD be better (even though they’re not). This time they looked as bad as MSNBC or FOX.
[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
Aragorn wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
Yeah, the protesters didn’t sound the brightest, but I’d bet you she didn’t look for the most intelligent looking. Plus it’s tougher when you’re put on the spot. But that hardly excuses the behavior now does it?
mike
I’m sure she wasn’t looking for the brightest people and the whole thing was really a dig at Fox however if I cared enough about something to go out and protest, you can be damn sure that I could give you the elevator pitch of why I was protesting.
I think to some degree you are underestimating the “surprise” factor that comes with being picked at random out of a crowd and asked questions – or more accurately in this case shouted down. It makes many normally articulate, well spoken people into bumbling idiots. I’ve been that guy once before. As soon as the microphone left I smacked myself in the forehead and thought of a million and one different analogies and examples of what it was I wanted to say. Nada while on camera. No, this wasn’t recent and no this wasn’t related to politics.
Exactly right - especially with a camera in your face, unless you’re REALLY used to it; even then it’s hard. Look at BO himself for God’s sake. Any of you who have been through PR/media training know - it’s a LOT harder than it looks.
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I too have had enough public speaking experience to grasp how difficult it is to do it well. I’ve seen recordings of myself looking like a bumbling idiot while talking about subjects that I understood very well.
A person needs to be either very experienced or very naturally gifted to come across as suave and sophisticated when a camera and mic are shoved without warning into his face. It’s taken me a lot of work to become “forgettable” as a public speaker, and that’s no joke. Many public “speakers” are memorable for all the wrong the reasons.
To be disappointed at a regular Joe for looking stupid during an impromptu interview is like being disappointed at a pro baseball player when he fails to hit the ball seven times out of ten.
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
The Daily Show had a pretty funny take on it:
Around min 6:30 is the video.
“OMG, So CNN becomes an even more dickish FOX!”[/quote]
so true. cnn and fox have done an about face on the coverage of this.
relating one president to hitler? unpatriotic and disgusting, fox couldn’t be more upset, two months later all the sudden its more American than apple pie and they’re the champion of social unrest.
just another detail on the long list of why major media is a pile of poo
