[quote]John S. wrote:
Perhaps it is time we push back?[/quote]
…so do exactly what the critics of the Tea Party are accusing the movement of?
[quote]Spartiates wrote:
[quote]John S. wrote:
Perhaps it is time we push back?[/quote]
…so do exactly what the critics of the Tea Party are accusing the movement of?[/quote]
How is defending oneself wrong? Or is it ok for the left to assault the tea party but the tea party is not aloud to defend themselves? Logic fail.
The left needs to get rid of those who use oppresive force. See if a tea party member was to do something like that they would get rejected immediatly, where is the left rejecting these guys? They don’t they support there actions because they are tyrants.
It is the Liberals Constitutional right to bad mouth Conservatives with out hard proof, but when Conservatives bad mouth Liberals with hard proof is is considered a Hate Crime. Double Standard? I would say so.
[quote]John S. wrote:
How is defending oneself wrong? [/quote]
Because it’s racist. Are we all on the same page now?
I don’t see that anything has changed, let’s look at the situation…
Tea Party people were always accused of being racists, regardless of any truths to the accusations. Left wingers allegedly will infiltrate to make them look like racists. So, truth be told, they always have been, and always will be, accused of racism. As far as the violence is concerned, defend yourself at all times. Talking shit is one thing, but when someone lays hands on you, it’s ON.
[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
"Allee Bautsch, chief campaign fundraiser for Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, and her boyfriend Joe Brown, were savagely beaten Friday night in New Orleans after leaving a Republican party fundraising dinner by a group of thugs who reportedly targeted the couple because they were wearing Sarah Palin pins.
Bautch’s leg was broken and Brown incurred a broken jaw and nose as well as a concussion.
The Hayride reports that a source who visited Bautsch at the hospital the day after the attack says they were told the couple was attacked for wearing Palin buttons:
Two people at the Brennan’s event have now confirmed that the protest had largely broken up by the time it ended, but we also understand from someone who visited Allee Bautsch in the hospital Saturday morning that she and Brown were followed and attacked expressly because they had Palin pins on (she heard one of the attackers say “Let’s get them, they have Palin pins on” - so the attack WAS politically motivated as its victims understood it. It was not a mugging, it was not an argument gone wrong and it was not a bar fight.
The story of a Republican and her boyfriend being viciously attacked for wearing Palin buttons has yet to make national headlines, unlike say, unfounded rumors of nasty words being said by Tea Party protesters."[/quote]
Update from Michelle Malkin: No Palin pins involved.
What a completely unpredictable turn of events.
Again? Sorry, mein freunde, none of my accusations are baseless. There was a whole thread earlier where I posted, I think, three videos full of Tea Party racism, some veiled, and some naked. If you’re interested, look for it, but I’m not going to, because my comment was directed to John, not you.
[quote]thefederalist wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]thefederalist wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]thefederalist wrote:
All of America is racist. Big surprise. [/quote]
How many threads did YOU personally start making sure we all knew that the tea party was racist. You my friend are a fucking hypocryte.
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Me saying the tea party is racist is not the same thing as me saying the left is not racist. [/quote]
But you didn’t make a statement along the lines of what Drewh said. I agree with him, in that everyone has some degree of racism in them. You in another thread tried to point out the racism in the Tea Party People, but no one else.
You applied a universal label to only one group of people. You are just like Geithner, apparently he felt everyone should pay their taxes, except himself. [/quote]
I’ve never put anyone on the ignore list because I don’t like censorship and feel even a blind squirrel is going to have a good post once in a while. But I don’t know if I can take thefederalist anymore. His blatent leftist agenda knows no bounds. He is flat out dishonest, which I really find disturbing (but expected). I just don’t know if I can stomach him anymore. I mean when we take back control and in 50 years a conservative gameplan gets america back on track and things are vastly improved as far as the quality of life and amount of freedom each citizen has. Is he going to still be pushing for big governemtn or will he finally say, Ok Ok, you guys were right, this freedom thing and this small government thing really does help the little guy the MOST.
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I’m not pro-Big Gov’t, whatever the hell that means. You’re lumping my positions together with those of other people and some preconceived notion you have about liberals. I’m pro regulation of the financial services industry. My interests are in Econ and Finance. In many other ways I’m very much a libertarian and a believer in states’ rights.
But, I do have a general suspicion of fanaticism and hyperbole. I don’t like the tea party because they gobble up fox news garbage like it’s coco puffs (NB: I don’t watch MSNBC). When people say that they’re being educated by Fox News editorials, I’m questioning their baseline level of intelligence.
In short, the left and the right are ALWAYS wrong. The right answer is usually somewhere in the middle. You’re sick of me because you can’t tolerate that other people disagree with you in some narrow respect.
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But you don’t even show a baseline level of knowledge about fundamental economics.
[quote]anonfactor wrote:
[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
"Allee Bautsch, chief campaign fundraiser for Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, and her boyfriend Joe Brown, were savagely beaten Friday night in New Orleans after leaving a Republican party fundraising dinner by a group of thugs who reportedly targeted the couple because they were wearing Sarah Palin pins.
Bautch’s leg was broken and Brown incurred a broken jaw and nose as well as a concussion.
The Hayride reports that a source who visited Bautsch at the hospital the day after the attack says they were told the couple was attacked for wearing Palin buttons:
Two people at the Brennan’s event have now confirmed that the protest had largely broken up by the time it ended, but we also understand from someone who visited Allee Bautsch in the hospital Saturday morning that she and Brown were followed and attacked expressly because they had Palin pins on (she heard one of the attackers say “Let’s get them, they have Palin pins on” - so the attack WAS politically motivated as its victims understood it. It was not a mugging, it was not an argument gone wrong and it was not a bar fight.
The story of a Republican and her boyfriend being viciously attacked for wearing Palin buttons has yet to make national headlines, unlike say, unfounded rumors of nasty words being said by Tea Party protesters."[/quote]
Update from Michelle Malkin: No Palin pins involved.
What a completely unpredictable turn of events.
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They were coming out of a political event though - well, I suppose time will tell.
[quote]John S. wrote:
http://biggovernment.com/mcrowley/2010/04/10/voicemails-expose-lefts-racism/
Listen to these and find out who the true racists are.[/quote]
It can’t possibly be all those people who want to erect a huge razorwire barrier to keep the Mexicans out.
Well, let’s first take the first statement of this thread into account, The Left is Full of Racists.
‘The Left’ being the subject and ‘Full of Racists’ being the predicate and ‘is’ of course is the copula.
The Left is a pretty ambiguous term, so unless I am incorrect, correct me if I am wrong, Democrat is the correct term you are looking for, or ‘communist’ as it is now. Full is a particular proposition, and if it can be concluded that everyone has prejudice when it comes to race I would say the correct statement is:
All members of the Democrat (Communist) Party are racists.
All members of the Republican (Fascist/Protectionist) Party are racists.
This has been true in history. Democrats before the Civil War, were Pro-State’s rights, Freedom, Liberty, and Private Property they still held slaves. The Republicans bribed the boarder states to stay with the Union by letting them keep their slaves through the Eman. Proc. Lincoln wrote in letters that he would not let the day come that a colored person walked free in the streets of DC.
Lincoln was considered a mild racist back then, and some slave owners like Jefferson Davis, for example, did not want the slaves they inherited. It was a general mentality more than a party attribute.
Racism has mellowed out over the last decade, good riddance I say. However, there is a general mentality of ‘mild prejudice,’ that comes with lack of knowledge of people different than oneself. I presume that if one’s knowledge is that of negative knowledge of a certain group of people different of oneself, or a thereof lack of knowledge about a certain group of people different of oneself, there will be racist or prejudice tendencies.
The mild prejudice should not be ignored totally, but to assume and to use it as ‘ammo’ that one party over the other holds the crown of prejudice over the other is fallacious, and not conductive to debate.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Well, let’s first take the first statement of this thread into account, The Left is Full of Racists.
‘The Left’ being the subject and ‘Full of Racists’ being the predicate and ‘is’ of course is the copula.
The Left is a pretty ambiguous term, so unless I am incorrect, correct me if I am wrong, Democrat is the correct term you are looking for, or ‘communist’ as it is now. Full is a particular proposition, and if it can be concluded that everyone has prejudice when it comes to race I would say the correct statement is:
All members of the Democrat (Communist) Party are racists.
All members of the Republican (Fascist/Protectionist) Party are racists.
This has been true in history. Democrats before the Civil War, were Pro-State’s rights, Freedom, Liberty, and Private Property they still held slaves. The Republicans bribed the boarder states to stay with the Union by letting them keep their slaves through the Eman. Proc. Lincoln wrote in letters that he would not let the day come that a colored person walked free in the streets of DC.
Lincoln was considered a mild racist back then, and some slave owners like Jefferson Davis, for example, did not want the slaves they inherited. It was a general mentality more than a party attribute.
Racism has mellowed out over the last decade, good riddance I say. However, there is a general mentality of ‘mild prejudice,’ that comes with lack of knowledge of people different than oneself. I presume that if one’s knowledge is that of negative knowledge of a certain group of people different of oneself, or a thereof lack of knowledge about a certain group of people different of oneself, there will be racist or prejudice tendencies.
The mild prejudice should not be ignored totally, but to assume and to use it as ‘ammo’ that one party over the other holds the crown of prejudice over the other is fallacious, and not conductive to debate.
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Wow, this is a really good post.
[quote]John S. wrote:
How is defending oneself wrong? Or is it ok for the left to assault the tea party but the tea party is not aloud to defend themselves? Logic fail.
The left needs to get rid of those who use oppresive force. See if a tea party member was to do something like that they would get rejected immediatly, where is the left rejecting these guys? They don’t they support there actions because they are tyrants.[/quote]
Defending yourself is fine. But your movement is all about individualism, right? Defend yourself if your personally threatened, or someone is threatened in front of you.
When you take the attitude your talking about, that’s called looking for a fight. It takes legitimacy away from the movement when you have armed Bubbas showing up looking to throw-down. And the movement already has legitimacy problems.
The Left has already screwed up the chance of showing Tea Party people for being stupid, racist, etc. Now that they have publicly announced they plan to infiltrate and act foolish intentionally, any person at a Tea Party who behaves that way might be a plant or a real Tea Party member, but the media and public won’t know the difference. Way to go Left, you ruined your own cause.
[quote]skaz05 wrote:
Pretty much an eye opener there. Thanks for sharing that. I’m sure the liberals here will line up to defend those comments he was reading.
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How dare those Lefties protest and heckle the chosen one, nothing but a bunch of racists I tell you…
The voice over guy for Geico has been fired over those racist, leftist, mentally retarded comments regarding Tea Party activists…
http://www.freedomworks.org/hosted/MSG02713.WAV
Geico, where one stupid actor can cost you 15% or more on your car insurance business.
Stop. You seriously think the democrat party is analogous in any way to Communism? Seriously? I mean I know there’s hyperbole but do you actually believe that?
[quote]Bambi wrote:
Stop. You seriously think the democrat party is analogous in any way to Communism? Seriously? I mean I know there’s hyperbole but do you actually believe that?[/quote]
I like how you took major issue with that line while entirely omitting the following line.