The Israel War Thread

Would turinabol be a better option for me, since i aromatize alot?
From all the others

I have no experience with turinabolm.

From what i read, i wouldnt need a test base on dbol. Is that what you did

That is true. Dianabol was the primary AAS during the 1970’s. Most people took it alone. A testosterone base didn’t become common until the very late 1970’s.

Is that alright to do nowadays, or wouls it be smarter to add a test base?

I only took pharmaceutical AAS. I had complete faith that Dianabol was Dianabol. I used it when CIBA still held the patent on Dianabol most of the years.

Are you injecting test prop?

A small/mild abscess from unsterile gear could only pop up and go away after 3-5 days. I’ve had two accesses (believe it or not from TRT prescription)

Otherwise if you have a solvent/allergic reaction from the gear you can wind up with injection site irritation. I used to take sustanon (prescription) and I have tried testosterone propionate a long time ago, both led to me developing red welts post injection secondary to massive irritation at the site of injection.

If the gear appears to be unsterile dump it… you do NOT want to wind up with significant myocarditis/endocarditis!

What mg/ml do you have? High mg/ml UGL preparations like T400 often cause significant injection site irritation.

I liked anavar and primo the most. Aside from virtually zero good cholesterol (terrible for you long term, but dbol does the same thing to lipids and many aren’t aware of this…) Primo was also bad on lipids, but not QUITE as bad as an equipotent dose of mast.

Problem is anavar gave me heartburn, had anavar not given me heartburn I’d have called it the perfect drug. I like having some extra muscle mass… more muscle mass stabilizes my genetic condition (complicated, but one of the best preventative measures to halt deterioration is increasing muscle mass and strength)

And I have no interest in say being able to deadlift 500lbs etc again… it’s just “an extra 10lbs goes a LONG way”… I don’t take AAS anymore, but I seem to have benefited long term from the few cycles I ran

I have thought about using again, but it’d be in the same way I used to use… so like 100mg test and maybe 200mg of an anabolic or 100mg + a small amount of an oral (like 20mg anavar) which everyone seems to think is a waste of time but I know from experience it’s still worthwhile.

Its a 250mg/10ml vial of testosterone enanthate. The company that makes them is known in europe and i did get it checked on the dutch forum to see if it was real.
It isnt a allergic reaction, because i have good injections, but 2 of them went wrong.
I always wash my hands,clean the area with medical alchol including the vial. The syringes are unopend. So everything is sterile. I can add some photos of the product if that helps

What do you mean went wrong? Don’t send me photos of the product… if the bad injection site isn’t your glute send a photo of that without anything that could allow someone to tell where you are/what you look like.

They are not visible, the redness goes away. But it stays warm to the touch and i feel a small lump that becomes smaller. But it is painful to move around for a few days.
The injections are exactly what i see done on youtube. Everything is done perfectly.

Dianabol seems like a next small step.
I will read about it more and see if its smart to do as my next cycle

Then there’s likely something in the gear that is causing irritation and/or an allergic reaction

It could be a solvent your body doesn’t agree with (or concentration of solvent is too high), it could be unsterile as UGL gear can vary even batch to batch. I remember in Aus there was one lab that was super reputable, then they held a huge sale and some of the gear gave people infections, abscesses etc…

They pulled an exit scam shortly after… I’m sure you are aware of the questionable nature of drug dealers, the same applies to people selling you steroids (whether you get online or in person).

I don’t know how much disposable income you have… but I’d dump it… I’ve taken gear like this once and actually had slightly raised CRP on bloods secondary to constant low grade inflammation from injection sites. That’s not good for you long term (oxidative stress will lead to endothelial dysfunction and damage to the lining of your arteries that predisposes you to plaque build up, and on TOP of that you are dealing with dyslipidemia from the AAS and a state of increased oxidative stress even without the abnormal injection site inflammation)

The thing is AAS are awful for you long term… How significant the major long term impact will be largely depends on your genetic makeup (some people have resilient bodies, others fall apart after one cycle… MOST people are in the middle).

If you are going to take them against all advice then it’s best to live as clean of a lifestyle as humanely possible… Also make sure to get lipids checked on cycle and off cycle… if you are one of the Dutch people who has FH ( much more common in the Dutch, FH = abnormally high cholesterol from genetic mutation) you’ll need to be SO careful esp with orals as heterozygous FH + AAS without pharmacological intervention can easily lead to a heart attack in your 30s.

I dont think its a allergic reaction since i had other injections that went well.
The vial has 20% benzyl benzoate and 2% benzyl alchol.
I did get my blood tested before this cycle, and all is at a normal level.
I suspect i may be injecting into a vein on accident, and that caused the inflammation.
Where do you inject? My next injection is thursday, it would be smart to see if im just injecting wrong, change the location.
And should i start taking some aspirin to prevent any blood clots or thick blood

Troll.

Fuck this thread is so far off topic

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I’ll take some of the blame for that

Shall we go back to the chosen people

Why not let this thread ramble around or just let it die. Everyone has had their say, and when everything is said and done, far more has been said than done. So, there is that.

What no one has done is ask God what He has to say about the question. The condition of the Jew and their continuous struggle to get along can be summed up in Matthew 27:24-25, “When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.
Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.”

Simply put, they are receiving what they asked to receive.

Now a good Bible believing Christian loves the Jews.

Romans 12:17-19, “Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.
If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.”

The Christian is dwelling in the Kingdom of God, which is a spiritual kingdom. The Jew has been promised a land grant in the form of the Kingdom of Heaven, which must be taken by force, and will be completed at the second advent of Christ, when He comes as King. The Jews simply missed the first advent of Christ when He came a Saviour. The Christian awaits the coming of the Kingdom of Heaven. The Jew is still struggling to attain the Kingdom of Heaven.

Are we back on track now?
Or maybe we should just close this thread, because ultimately what is going on is out of our influence.

Troll

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