I do… You’d be surprised as to how common PED use is amongst young men!
There has been a decline in use since the 90s although that may have reversed over the past five years
in the 1990s it was estimated 6.4% of teenagers had tried AAS (remember designer steroids were OTC for a while)… No reason not to believe him when there were reports of kids as young as like 12 taking them. Given how accessible everything is it’d be very easy to order domestically and take it without your parents being any wiser
esp considering how many parents nowadays do not supervise their children at all
Why? Just as bad in terms of the combo, I suppose the lower the dose the better…
It’s moreso the problem with excessive sympathomimetic effet
I’m sure you know AAS can cause cardiac enlargement over time, the heart is a muscle… the heart has androgen receptors… and whether the effect is reversible is hotly debated within the medical community when/if it is induced by AAS but AAS use often devolves into cardiac failure, myocardial infarction, stroke etc and there are numerous mechanisms behind how your blood could clot (high HCT, platelet aggregation etc). AAS induce a state of sympathetic dominance, they up-regulate adrenergic signalling.. clen does this through an even more direct mechanism by acting DIRECTLY on beta adrenergic receptors… it’s a beta 2 agonist… Beta blockers are given to people with heart failure for reference, clen is not good for you at all… this is another mechanism behind how cardiac enlargement over time can occur esp if you wind up with like a tachycardia induced cardiomyopathy from a clen + AAS combo
Do some hard cardio on cycle then track how long it takes for your RHR to reach baseline again, then do the same thing off cycle and you’ll be surprised by how big the differential can be. AAS induce cardiac autonomic dysfunction, as does clen… the combo is a 1+1=10 combo for your heart.
You can get leaner with diet unless you are like 6% and stage ready..
One of the potential mechanisms behind cardiac enlargement is elevated BP (also keep an eye on pulse pressure) as you probably know… The whole “you are going to wind up dependent on TRT” is fairly likely, but there’s more to AAS than gyno, acne, hair loss and dependence on TRT… the suffering people with CHF go through is unbearable… There’s also the long term neurodegenerative potential harboured through long term use of these drugs when dosed high.
What is your cycle? What kind of dose are you pushing? Are you using ultra suppressive long estered progestogenic drugs and are you taking HCG on cycle? Are you going to PCT afterwards or are you going to BnC?
I mean kids/teenagers… that 6.4% stat in the 90s referred to children/adolescents aged 13-19. Think about recreational drugs and what some kids take… It’s obviously not a good idea, but it happens
He is a troll. He isn’t doing anything. A kid over in Holland somehow decides to post here about PEDs and Jews, and I’m supposed to believe he isn’t a troll?
Im taking a 16 week cycle of test e, i started with 400mg weekly split 8am monday and 8pm thursday. My kickstart is 25mg anadrol morning and 25mg pre workout. I with titrate the dosage to 600mg at the end of the cycle if all goes well. My pct is clomid and im still thinking about if i want to use hcg, ive heard it is suppressive of the hpta axis. I am keeping aromasin on hand. And i started using it MWF due to estrogen sides
5mg. Im am taking liver supplements.
Am i missing anything else?
I’m not giving drug advice.. HCG mimics LH and therefore leads to anterior pituitary shutdown through a negative feedback loop but unlike AAS which also shuts you down (body says “I have enough Test/equivalent androgen load, shut off LH/FSH”) HCG stimulates the testis to produce intratesticular testosterone which is shut off on cycle.
Whether this actually allows someone to recover faster… not enough medical literature to go on…
Though I relied on Clenbuterol for contests, I never used it until my body fat dropped below 9% and only a short period of time as the body down regulates fairly quickly when using Clenbuterol.
IMO, the use of Clenbuterol for anything other than the stage is a poor risk::reward choice.
But it is your life. Feel free to make your own choices.
No it isn’t… not illegal to talk about jews in private anywhere even if you dislike them…
A lot of people post about PED’s to get validation on whether they should or shouldn’t take them… and YOU shouldn’t… but if you’re already taking what can anyone do about it
I don’t do drug advice, I’ve had quite a few people ask me to give them drug advice related to AAS and I’ve always refused… I don’t want to be responsible for someone encountering a rare side effect, that and you are below the age of 18…
I used it because i felt hyper on it.
It made me feel quick.
That is why i used it, but if it is as bad as you and others say. I defenitly will use it less often.