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That’s dancing between rain-drops. I am unconcerned about which individual is what. We know what is meant by “From the river to the sea” and chants of “Death to America” in America on these college campuses where they target and harass Jewish students, who have no apparent ties to Israel, this has nothing to do with justice for the Palestinians. If it were, there are concrete steps that have already been laid out for decades that would ensure the thriving of Gaza if they simply renounced violence and chose to live in peace with their neighbors. But they don’t.
10/7/23 was the red-line for Israel. Seriously what did anyone think was going to happen? Did anyone think that Israel would go through that and then say, “You know they have a point, we should just evacuate the country and let them have it.”
Not all Palestinians, but a good many have sown the wind and they shall reap the whirlwind.
Only the left would embrace actual terrorists and then project that on everybody but themselves as is their MO.
Which is look at the awful thing your doing and then just accuse the other side of it, instead of correcting the behavior.
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I agree with all of that.
You should know you’re agreeing with someone who is literally, not figuratively, brain damaged.
Self portrait about brain damage.
Since I’ve lived in Israel and Jordan, I think this is going to be a conuined clusterfuck until one side is eliminated. I dont care who wins, just find any resoultion and shut the fuck up.
Pat’s damage affected his cognitive abilities, which were low to begin with.
Even if Muslims were to wipe out Israel (which they would if they could) there still would be no peace in the Middle East. Shias would still be fighting the Sunnis, and we would most certainly have a power struggle between Iran an Saudi arabia. The US would back the Saudis, despite their funding of terrorists, Russia would back Iran, and we would all still have to deal with these fucking nutjobs who like to massacre ‘‘infidels’’.
There will be no peace as long as Islam exists.
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Pat’s an obsolete model of a human being so maybe we could nurse him back to health if we hit him in the head with a shoe.
That’s how my father fixed our old TV set that one time when it fell. Worked with our first computer too, the ZX Spectrum.
If it worked with a 48 kb computer, I’m sure it will work with Pat. Even if it doesn’t, there will be a positive effect, at least on the one who’s holding the shoe.
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Good thinking. I think it will work.
Unfortunately it doesn’t work all the times…
Still worth a shot.
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Peaceful they are…riiiiigggghhhhtttt
I think they have a different definition for compassion.
This is pretty impressive.
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If true, pretty much confirms, again, that you don’t want to fuck with mossad.
Makes you think what other traps the have set out there…
My friend group, my twin brother and I were almost beaten up by a group of exclusively Muslim kids at a bowling alley for the crime of my brother wearing a Kippur because he’s modern orthodox and wears a necklace with a star of David on it. We had to endure being harassed, sworn at (including racial epithets starting with a K… derogatory slang for jews) for hours until the management heart them talking about wanting to stomp out heads in… they were caught on footage waiting outside in a group for us… Police were called and they were apprehended. No option was made for us to press charges… no mention of them charged with attempting to commit hate crimes.
My brother was almost beaten up on a SECOND occasion. Civilians are free to rip down hostage posters. Put Pro Hamas and anti-Israel posters on university campus that are in violation of the universities code of conduct…. No go… Cornered by Muslim kids… threatened…. Close to assault but my soon to be lawyer brother’s friends saw what was going on and backed him. It’s always the Islamic kids or the socialists/communists doing this shit… never the neo nazis. Very few kids identify as neo nazi, it’s outlawed in my state now and you’d have to be unbelievably stupid to buy into holocaust revisionism today given the sheer amount of obvious data backing it’s true. Every single conspiracy theory promoted by disingenuous denialist fuckwits who have been offered to debate in good faith yet refused to do so every single time like Bradley Smith or David Irving can be easily debunked through a quick google search… to fall for this indicates you are unable to think critically and discern between fact and bullshit.
Re Gaza. Australians are letting in Gazans… The ENTIRE middle east won’t take them in… wonder what they know that the western world doesn’t. Remember polling indicates over 80% of Gazans support Hamas. If we were to combine support for Hamas, Hezbollah and Houthis support would be over 90% for at least one…
Here’s quotation directly taken from the charter of Hamas "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews. When the Jew will hide behind stones and trees, the stones and trees will say, “O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews.”
Let’s bring these views into Australia! It’s obviously our responsibility. I’m sure there is ZERO chance any members of Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad nor any radical islamists in a population where over 80% are radicalised will enter Australia!
Stats for Muslims in the UK. 52% believe homosexuality should be illegal, 25% believe homosexuality should be punished by the death penalty, 3% STILL support ISIS, 45% support Hamas, only 25% believe Hamas killed or raped ANYONE during oct 7. 40% of UK Muslims support Shariah law. In Australia only 34% of Muslims are employed
What ethnic or religious demographic immigrates from an extremely oppressive theocratic dictatorship (sometimes under shariah law) that brought on extensive suffering only to then form extremely bunched up, communities that are ethnic and cultural monocultures, refuse to get jobs, drain welfare and social services then threaten to make life more difficult for westerners if westerners don’t conform to the views of the governments and inhabitants present from the autocracy they came from… that and now the West needs to impose Shariah law/become strict Islam because the west is evil and corrupt… it’s absurd. No other religion or culture in modern history would do something like this.
I’ve anecdotally found even second-generation Muslim immigrants here tend to decisively prioritise the views of their homeland… WHY DID YOU COME HERE IF YOU ARE SO INVESTED WITH WHAT YOU HAD BACK HOME? One Islamic woman who is my age I know goes on and on and on about how great Lebanon is but if she were to go back members of her family would forcibly marry her off to a man who is likely going to be at least 2.5x older than her
what a wonderful place! Lebanon… the place with 300,000 rockets pointed towards Israel by Hezbollah… and don’t worrry! Hezbollah, Hamas AND the Houthis are actually “freedom fighters”!
“Nothing bad about them!”
- Every muslim I’ve ever met in Australia
the west is shockingly ignorant when it comes to Islam. With a particular emphasis on how ignorant they are when it comes to the views/beliefs of Palestinians who the entire middle east refuses to take in
Last time Egypt let in Palestinians the Palestinian assassinated their prime minister. Last time Lebanon let in a large influx of Palestinian refugees they tried to overthrow the government and started a civil war lasting fifteen years that destroyed the country’s economy… displaced MANY… and in both Egypt and Jordan they perpetuated terrorist attack after terrorist attack including attacks against Israel and on domestic soil. Out of the Lebanese civil war came Hezbollah… No Middle Eastern country in the Muslim worlds thinks the sacrifice is worth it… why on earth is the west starting to open their doors?
Mark my words we will see at least a few otherwise entirely preventable terrorist attacks from this and/or even larger networks of educational institutions pushing Islamic radicalism and historical revisionism
It’s beyond my comprehension why any nation would allow in immigrants who are fundamentally opposed to that nation’s core values.
In large part, middle eastern countries are not known for their tolerance or concern for human rights/welfare (unless it’s denouncing a rival for PR purposes). It’s a very tribal culture, and while they may publicly support Palestine, it’s really an “enemy of my enemy is my friend” type situation. Not to mention that the socioeconomics of most/all middle eastern countries make it difficult to absorb large amounts of refugees.
Western countries (the people themselves) on the other hand, are much more concerned with human rights from an altruistic perspective. They do have robust enough socioeconomics to absorb large amounts of refugees, and so they do.
Another thing to remember is that many/most western countries are at below replacement levels of birth, so immigration is what is needed to keep the economies going.
I do wish there were better naturalization programs put into place for refugees, to ease the transition and culture shock. And I also think that spreading refugees out across the country (instead of putting them in a couple major metros) would help encourage assimilation and avoid cloistered separated communities.
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I’m uncertain if this works as well in practice and it does in theory.
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In Australia, 30% of Muslims are employed. In Britain the employment rate for Muslims is far below that of the Westernised population in the country. I can go on… refugees from countries with dynamically opposing values who are dumped in clustered communities tend to put strain on welfare, social services etc at a level that is unsustainable particularly considering high birth rates within these communities with high unemployment rates
Mass migration is always touted as being good for the economy but results have indicated anything but this to actually be the case
Refugees in the US can’t retain employment for long: study says – The Hill
Mass migration from countries with similar cultural outlooks is effective… Mass migration from countries where the immigrants come in and can’t find gainful employment? Not so much…
Increasing birth rates through mass immigration using immigrants from countries with culturally opposing values to that of the country an immigrant is moving to mediates a loss of cultural identity from within that country
If muslims in Belgium reach half the population which is projected to happen by 2050 Belgium is at risk of becoming an autocratic theocracy… specifically as the decades pass through
Unless Islam itself moderates the western world in my opinion should look to reduce islamic immigration as much as possible and/or instate EXTREMELY strict vetting protocols.
Only 8000 Gazans have applied for asylum in Australia
of that over 3000 have had their visas approved but only around 1800 have come to Australia. That means 8000 have applied for asylum, over half have had their visas denied (gee… I wonder why?)
and less than half of those with approved vias have actually been granted proper entry into Australia… of those who have been let into Austarlia. Over 80% of Gazans support Hamas, it’s just too risky… They’re radical even when looking at the muslim world as a whole
Palestinians are portrayed as moderates and liberal/left wing centred media outlets are flagging down “racism” as the reason many politicians in Australia don’t want Gazans OR Palestinians coming to live in Australia. They cited widespread support for the Oct 7 terrorist attack where the intent was to go all the way up to Jerusalem and kill as many civilians as possible, they cited polling indicating over 80% support Hamas… The opposition to the current government in power specified they don’t want terrorist supporters coming to Australia
They were hit back with “that’s racist… not all of them are terrorist supporters. Calling Gazans terrorist supporters is ‘grossly inaccurate’”
Polling doesn’t seem to think it’s grossly inaccurate… I’ve been to Palestine… I’ve been to Israel… I’ve been so close to a terrorist attack unfolding I’ve heard the gunshots popping off (against Israeli civillians). I KNOW how Palestinian people TEND to think. Even the schoolchildren (long story as to how I got to experience this) I spoke to were Hamas supporters and this was before this current war.
If Hamas is a terrorist organisation, which they are… then Palestinians are terrorist supporters. Before Hamas they supported the PLO… another terrorist organisation. Palestinians have been terrorist supporters since the founding of Palestine in 1988… even before then there was widespread support.
Militant Islamism is also a growing problem within Africa. Support for jihadism and militant Islamism is also a growing problem in the West. Particularly considering the narrative academic institutions have taken on
Western universities are receiving funding large amounts of funding from the Muslim world… Qatar has donated over 5 billion to American universities in the past 20 years… keep in mind countries that generally dislike America/the West are donating large sums of money to Western universities
Now classes on Middle Eastern studies and Israel tend to completely gloss over the MANY negative aspects of Islamic culture and these classes teach a version of history so riddled with revisionism/denial it rivals holocaust denialism.
I’ve gotten into arguements with students who attend these classes. They are taught bullshit like “Palestinians were NEVER offered statehood”
Yes they were… in 1948… and PLENTY of times with Israeli peace deals including one that offered to remove 96% of settlements and provide Palestine with even more land relative to what was offered by the UN in 1948. Palestine refused all offers… didn’t exist until 1988… and these students are going on about how Israel has been Palestinian homeland for hundreds, if not thousands of years
I believe there is archaeological evidence suggesting Jews were present in Israel before the first Muslim stepped foot in Israel… This idea that the land is native to Muslims but not Jews is in alignment with historical revisionism.