The Israel / Hamas Conflict

With a name like that, I couldn’t imagine why a Jew might call you a bad name. “Cattle” is an odd choice of insult though.

I think attacking a concert with an audience of citizens and decimating entire towns is pretty rude personally but still prefer American neutrality in any case, in this situation.

I agree regarding taxes, and not just to Jerusalem. I was highly supportive of Trumps initiative to create a level playing field among partners abroad, or cut relationships fwiw.

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Google “goyim”. It’s a rabbit hole.

We’re not talking about an individual situation like an axe murderer chaining people in his sex dungeon. The red cross was also allowed into German concentration camps.
For fu**s sake, Israel demanded the rather densely populated Gaza city to collectively pack their bags immediately. Which is already a crime. And yet they bombed them and the red coss nonetheless.
If you’re a zionist then I guess you’re just acting on tribal instincts. Just say so, otherwise you come across like a psycho.

Are we going to pretend this is just a modern clash and not an age old struggle of Islam against…… everybody else but especially Jews, and double especially in the “holy land”?

Just curious how we are framing things before the conversation turns in to a confusing mesh of off base assumptions.

Can’t I be both?

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Another one that keeps believing all the lies

Sure thing, bud

Sprechen sie Deutch?

You are so astonishingly dim that I have to assume you are AI.

There’s a reason The Third Reich committed their genocide in death camps that weren’t in Germany, but in the Greater Reich. Specifically, in Poland. There’s also a reason why they didn’t create propaganda films highlighting the medical experimentation, the industrialized murder, the slave labor and everything else that they did to the untermensch.

There’s also a reason why Hamas has proudly documented and bragged about their deeds in a way that no German in 1938 would ever tolerate.

Reichsritter, indeed.

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No, they never had their own nation. In fact, the region known as Palestine (the Palestinians named themselves after the region, the region was not named after them, and it wasn’t until the late 19th century that the term Palestinian was created.) was never a country. The land belonged to the Egyptians, Jews, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Macedonians, Romans, Arab Caliphates, Latins (Crusaders), Ottomans and finally the British who had the right to do whatever they pleased with it. Note that at no point in this history has the land ever belonged to Palestinians and they are never mentioned. They are simply the descendants of Arab colonizers who were bystanders as empires came and went.

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Imagine that, the people who promote Holocaust denial were friendly towards you.

As if we haven’t given money to the Palestinians, which means to Hamas.

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Brother you’ve got a way with words that just hits every single time.

Go on.

Thanks bro. Please pray or wish for good outcomes for one of the best men in our area. I’m pretty sure you know who I’m talking about. He’s had a recent setback, but if anyone’s equipped to overcome it, it is him.

While you’re at it, do the same for everyone, everywhere.

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Truth be told, I live under a rock. I’m usually late to the party when news is concerned, this being no exception. I do have some ideas based on previous conversations we’ve had, but couldn’t be certain.

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That’s okay. I’ve been pretty vague about the situation for a reason.

Just like Hamas has been pretty specific about the situation for a reason.

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That is an extremely myopic way of looking at it zecarlo. So are you saying that no group of Jews can ever have much in common with Nazis, because they are Jews - and no matter how much resemblance they have to Nazis in terms of anything - as long as they are not mistreating Jews specifically - there can be no resemblance?

That is horrible logic and you should just stop.

The Bolsheviks were pretty bad

I’ve been operating off of adrenaline a bit. I didn’t sleep last night, I just woke up from a 3-4 hour nap, and my heart is pounding right away. You probably deserved a kinder, more tactful response

The last person I remember talking to that was this preocupied with Zionists was Robert Bowers.

Not surprisingly, you sound just like him.

Control of sea access, control over airspace, control of most of the land borders, blockade, does equal real control over the internal, on the ground situation in Gaza.

It’s not complete control, it is considerable control. I don’t even know what complete control would mean. If someone surrounds me with goons and points a gun to my head, do they have control over my internal state? Regardless of how a particular person might think, feel, react, respond, it would be an extremely high (and low) standard to hold humanity to, in order to say that in that situation, the aggressor has never taken any real control.

I disagree. Israel has seized power around most of Gaza’s borders and enacted a blockade. There is an ancient American proverb that states:

With great power comes great responsibility

To the extent that Israel exercises control is the extent to which Israel has responsibility. And it is quite a bit.

Sure, Hamas does have some degree of power and control, so they have a degree of responsibility. Do not put all of the responsibility on those with the least power - that would be unjust. I don’t think you intend to be unjust - I think you have tried to be fair, but the mental machinery is calibrated to zero and infinity due to Nazi like propaganda. So here is some honest feedback

Limited access, decided by Israel if I understand correctly. Israel does not just limit to prevent weapons. As I understand, there is a calorie limit to keep the people at the correct level of hunger, like a concentration camp.

I doubt that. Are you sure?

Interesting question, there’s so many directions one could take it. It has a lot to do with Israel because Israel institutes a blockade controlling imports and exports. A level of control is exerted beyond just preventing weapons.

I have not said that Israel is responsible for making Gaza livable, Israel is responsible to the degree to which it makes Gaza less livable - which is considerable. Oh, all the people in Gaza want to do is kill Israelis??? Oh, that’s all they want? Not even Allah anything or never looking up at the sky? Those monsters. Well damn man, why didn’t you just say that in the beginning?

No, no, no - that is Nazi like propaganda spewing forth from your fingers. I ask you to recalibrate and reconsider.

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