The Israel / Hamas Conflict

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There is an old movie called “The Message”, it does not show Muhammad (saw) at all, but since he did deeply touch many people, it worked off of that.

They showed from his perspective, first person camera view a few times

I think there’s a ton of space for dozens of series on the Companions of Muhammad (saw), but I’d recommend leaving him one degree removed and never show him

Thanks for your response.

My initial reaction is that labeling Jesus as merely a prophet is a red flag. If I know the person studies the Bible I don’t have that reaction, because that is exactly what the Bible says:

Acts 3:22, "For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.

23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people."

This New Testament statement was quoted by the Holy Spirit from Deuteronomy chapter 18:
15. “The Lord thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;”

18 "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him."

Jesus is not just a prophet, He is God who was manifested in the flesh. (1 Tim 3:16)

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Technically in Islam, nothing living is supposed to be depicted, and I’m not sure about painting trees and mountains and stuff

Depicting Muhammad (saw) would be the epitome of breaking that rule

Music is also considered sinful by many

Any wastefulness, vain talk etc.

It’s like Fight Club at least in that “is this about you and me?” - Muslims are to determine our own level of involvement

It might. For some, I’m sure it would - but not all, I’m pretty sure

I’ve probably written something about a mass execution in PWI before - which is probably the same incident you are referring to

I didn’t consider it to have been mass murder since it was justified

But maybe you know something that I don’t

I don’t think Umar ibn al Khattab made it that far

You probably mean the second empire or dynasty

I believe I could strongly defend anything Umar ibn al Khattab did or said. I’m not foolish enough to extend that out to every Muslim army or ruler, ever

And right there is the issue. The same people who say the mass killing of all the men and adolescent boys and the enslavement of the women and children of a people who had surrendered was justified, will say the Israeli response in Gaza is unjust. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Don’t be a crybaby about it when you get the sharp end.

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I am not aware of any. Yet I believe in the God of the Bible, and I’ve not commented on examining any other God. Thus far I’ve only said that insofar as Christians do examine the prophethood of Muhammad (saw), it ought to be done with the highest level of caution and precision as possible

I thought Muhammad (saw) was the only descendant of Abraham (as) to have claimed to have had a message from God that had been addressed to all of humanity

You may be aware of the claim that Muhammad (saw) is a descendant of Abraham (as) through Ismael (as)

If I remember correctly they were given the option of being judged according to their old laws or accept new ones

They chose the old ones, resulting in execution

Islam rejects Pauline theology as a corruption of Jesus’ teachings.

Muhammad had the choice to be merciful and he chose not to.

What about it?

No you did qualify your statement.

Maybe he should either read you more carefully, or write himself more clearly

I don’t study the Bible. I have a ton of respect for those that do make a deep study for the purpose of living it

To me, these all seem to be describing Muhammad (saw)

From the midst of thee (location of Jews in Medina), of thy brethren (Arabs descended from Abraham a.s.), like unto me (similar to Moses), and God will put His words in his mouth (the Bible means THE Book, Al Quran means THE Recitation, and Muhammad s.a.w. was illiterate as was the vast majority of his society)

I realize that Acts is not Pauline theology. But @squating_bear which of the 66 books of the Bible do you consider the Holy word of God?
(I acknowledge that the Catholics add the Apocrypha books to the Old Testament.)

So, can you list those books of the Bible that you believe are the written word of God?

My only question to squating_bear

How do you receive salvation and eternal life from Muhammed?

The bastard me wants to say “Through the hole on your neck where your head used to be.”.

But the better, kinder part of me that reaches for understanding of other cultures says “But also the ones in your ribcage from the fragments of a car bomb.”.

:rofl:

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That’s how you get a stable of virgins, silly

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Oh. I thought when they yelled “Kamala Snackbar” or what ever before they chop necks or blow everything up was for the salvation of the person or people they slaughter.

What a bunch of jagoffs.

And if you lived in a skyscraper you’d have a lifetime of windows to lick.

Good advise. Yet I detect animosity. All my questions are rhetorical except for the last paragraph

Have I been a crybaby zecarlo? Have I gotten the sharp end?
If I have, then would have I deserved it?

Have you been just to me zecarlo?

Am I a placeholder in your mind for all Muslims, forever?

Have I said the Israeli response in Gaza is unjust?

Thus far I have entered into a thread about incinerating babies in a concentration camp - I have let some people know that they should be more careful with words

Blshaw advised that I should just say my thing to which I responded with a few sentences sharing my view.

I have done little more or less than kindly share some words responding to people’s reactions of my sharing my view, imo

The closest thing to a lie I have told all along was right in the beginning.

I said “thank you for asking”, when I knew that I hadn’t been asked - instead I had been advised

So it would seem that you think the real issue is my hypocrisy. If you would say that, then wouldn’t your words cut both ways?

Was Muhammad (saw) not justified in your view? He executed the men for treason. Are you really willing to say that Israel today is better justified to incinerate babies than Muhammad (saw) was in executing traitors?