I didn’t, you imbecile. I actually took the time to read the article and address BB’s point. All you do is rant about so-called “cyber-jihad”. Grow up already![/quote]
The will to be stupid is a very powerful force, but there are always alternatives.â¿¿Lois McMaster Bujold
T Nation has a section called Strong Words, outside of the political forum, you probably have never seen it.
You should try heeding them. All you did as twist but that’s what you are here for right? Too funny.
[quote]orion wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
orion wrote:
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My interesting reality makes more sense than being afraid of a country that has not attacked someone since 1757?
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To which country are you referring?
Iran aka Persia, alas, I have to dissent from the mainstream of dissenters:
My new date is, since Russio-Persian war 1826.[/quote]
Invasion of sovereign US soil in 1979, multiple attacks through proxies in Lebanon, Israel, Iraq, Saudi Arabia…
Iran really is not an issue, it’s not a threat. Lucky, because the US really doesn’t have any options (thanks mr. Bush for that) to deal with it. Iran could become a threat in perhaps a decade or longer.
For now, it’s only used by the Republicans for internal politics. If they want to have a shred of a chance at the upcoming elections, they need to keep some kind of threat on the US population.
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Iran really is not an issue, it’s not a threat. Lucky, because the US really doesn’t have any options (thanks mr. Bush for that) to deal with it. Iran could become a threat in perhaps a decade or longer.
For now, it’s only used by the Republicans for internal politics. If they want to have a shred of a chance at the upcoming elections, they need to keep some kind of threat on the US population.[/quote]
The Republican would have liked nothing better than to give tax cuts and worry about popular music as a threat. They don’t like nation building/war fighting any more than anyone else. They are doing it because they think it is right.
They would have been perfectly happy spending gobs of cash on a missile defense shield and not committing troops to battle in a far off land.
I think we all have learned one thing by now, have no nuclear weapon and you risk getting your ass kicked, have nuclear weapons and you are safe.
Safe, not from Iran, but from the US.
Don’t want your ass kicked? Don’t be fanatically Anti-American, power hungry, dangerously unstable, or any combination of the three. Not unreasonable.
Does Canada fear an ass kicking? Does South Africa? Australia? Brazil? Mexico? Argentina? Norway? Sweden? Austria? Switzerland?..
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But we still support countries like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Iranians are NOT anti-American. They are anti-the-US-dictating-to-the-rest-of-the-world. We are a bully nation.
I think we all have learned one thing by now, have no nuclear weapon and you risk getting your ass kicked, have nuclear weapons and you are safe.
Safe, not from Iran, but from the US.
Don’t want your ass kicked? Don’t be fanatically Anti-American, power hungry, dangerously unstable, or any combination of the three. Not unreasonable.
Does Canada fear an ass kicking? Does South Africa? Australia? Brazil? Mexico? Argentina? Norway? Sweden? Austria? Switzerland?..
But we still support countries like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Iranians are NOT anti-American. They are anti-the-US-dictating-to-the-rest-of-the-world. We are a bully nation. [/quote]
Let’s let Iran be the bully! That will solve it.
Actually we are the asskicking nation that the bullies fear. Saddam was a bully.
[quote]lucasa wrote:
Don’t want your ass kicked? Don’t be fanatically Anti-American, power hungry, dangerously unstable, or any combination of the three. Not unreasonable. [/quote]
From the forum here, it seems the US is more anti-Iranian than Iran is anti-American. As for the power hungry bit, well, Iran doesn’t have hundreds of military bases around the world, isn’t invading countries left and right, etc…
Yeah, the Iranian regime is bad for the people living under it and similarly as bad for the status-quo in the region (I’m assuming stability for you means Israel as the hegemon). Contrast with an American foreign policy that’s literally killing people all over the globe, fueling extremism (think Islamism, Bolivarianism, etc…), torturing innocents, etc…
Drop the “we are the good guys” line. Your country fucked up more countries post-WWII than Iran could ever dream of achieving in a thousand years.
Zap, Iran as a country has not done anything against the US unprovoked…EVER. Please don’t mistake the actions of individual crimminals as the actions of a government.
Just because our government declares them state sponsors of terrorism doesn’t make it true.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Zap, Iran as a country has not done anything against the US unprovoked…EVER. Please don’t mistake the actions of individual crimminals as the actions of a government.
Just because our government declares them state sponsors of terrorism doesn’t make it true.[/quote]
The invasion of our embassy was an act of war. If you want to claim it was students that did that then how do you explain the long hostage ordeal?
USS Samuel B. Roberts (FFG-58) is one of the final ships in the United States Navy’s Oliver Hazard Perry class of guided missile frigates (FFG). The ship was severely damaged by an Iranian mine in 1988, leading U.S. forces to respond with Operation Praying Mantis. Why was Iran laying mines and blockading the Straights?
Usually Iran is too cowardly to directly attack and does so through proxies. How many Americans were held hostage in Lebanon by Iranian directed organizations?
[quote]lixy wrote:
lucasa wrote:
Don’t want your ass kicked? Don’t be fanatically Anti-American, power hungry, dangerously unstable, or any combination of the three. Not unreasonable.
From the forum here, it seems the US is more anti-Iranian than Iran is anti-American. .[/quote]
Is that why they celebrated the 35th(?) anniversary of the US hostage situation by chanting death to America. Yeah, their not anti-American in any streach. Right…
Why not paste something from an Iranian chat room to prove this. (translated hopefully)
[quote]lixy wrote:
As for the power hungry bit, well, Iran doesn’t have hundreds of military bases around the world, isn’t invading countries left and right, etc…
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Iran has exported it’s Shia brand of Islamic Extremism without the benefit of bases all over the world. Hezbollah has bases in Lebanon and South America. If you want to attack us for setting up military bases, we should attack the Mosques in which anti-western hatred is preached day in and day out within our midst.
All we hear about is how many dictatorships the US supports. What about the dictatorships around the world supported by Russia and China. Sudan comes to mind.
The Russians have killed many Muslims in Chechnia. Does this also create terrorism? How many terrorists did the war in Afghanistan create? Yet, we never hear a word about this.
Is this because the Russians arm the terrorists against Israel and are helping Iran one day possibly create nuclear arms?