The Inauguration

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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The main issue for Obama, or anyone who would have taken the oath today is the level of the bar. America is in terrible shape, and this is a bigger job than nearly any president has had to face. Obama raised the bar higher, with his promises and the expectations of his supporters.

Contrary to what people may think, he is not the next coming of our lord and savior.

His race to me matters none. I didn’t vote for him based on his policies, opinions and his record. Now that we have him I hope that he does what he said he would and proves to the world that he is capable of being a worthwhile president of the United States.

Personally I don’t see this happening.

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[quote]Black Greg wrote:
ITT: Butthurt Republifags[/quote]

You offend everything your ancestors struggled to earn. Guys like you are the reason things like this didn’t happen a long time ago.

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[quote]FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
I just hope we can bury the race hatchet as a population in general.
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racism is something forced on us through people like jesse jackson and the old fogies telling what are now ghost stories.
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[/quote]
Aawww man, you were so close to pulling that off, and then you goofed.

It wasn’t dumped in Bush’s lap, he created it.

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[quote]belligerent wrote:
And this is a historic day… a day of historic stupidity. [/quote]

Is that your avatar speaking?

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[quote]TrainerinDC wrote:

Contrary to what people may think, he is not the next coming of our lord and savior.
[/quote]

Who the fuck thinks this? Even if you see some old woman crying because of the moment, that doesn’t mean she thinks Obama is the key to getting into heaven. The man is in the most public position in the world. Every moment of his life for the next few years will be scrutinized at a level few humans could even cope with and maintain their sanity. I simply wish the man luck and hope he is as good a man at his core as he comes across.

Does this mean anyone thinks he is infallible? Of fucking course not. However, he handles himself calmly in situations that would have many of us saying things we would regret. I respect that about him but don’t envy what he has to face ahead of him.

Nearly every talking head throwing negative remarks at the man would come across as much less prepared if they themselves had to face the world today and not stutter.

This moment in time is special and goes beyond Obama himself and speaks on our country’s history, both good and bad, that led us here.

Putting yourself above all others makes you a prime target. My goal is to simply takes notes because if years from now we look back and applaud his performance, I will only hope I can be that much of an example.

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[quote]belligerent wrote:
Professor X wrote:
On a day described by many to be “historical”, it sure is quiet around here.

I guess there are some of us left who are not so utterly insane that we’re going to get behind a man who is leading a nation of blind idiots over the edge of cliff simply because he is black. Call me a foaming at the mouth racist if you want, but I’m not going over the cliff with you.[/quote]

You didn’t seem to mind when he was white.

And oh yeah, you’re a foaming at the mouth racist.

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[quote]TrainerinDC wrote:
Black Greg wrote:
ITT: Butthurt Republifags

You offend everything your ancestors struggled to earn. Guys like you are the reason things like this didn’t happen a long time ago.[/quote]

[quote]TrainerinDC wrote:
Black Greg wrote:
ITT: Butthurt Republifags

You offend everything your ancestors struggled to earn. Guys like you are the reason things like this didn’t happen a long time ago.[/quote]

Excuse me, Black Greg’s post might be inappropriate but are you saying that it is flippant remarks by African-Americans that prevented Blacks from rising to positions of power, instead of a system that for the longest time wouldn’t allow blacks in many parts of the country to vote, beat them when they tried to register, etcetera, etcetera?

Don’t tell me, don’t tell me. Some of your BEST FRIENDS are black.

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[quote]TrainerinDC wrote:
The main issue for Obama, or anyone who would have taken the oath today is the level of the bar. America is in terrible shape, and this is a bigger job than nearly any president has had to face. Obama raised the bar higher, with his promises and the expectations of his supporters.

Contrary to what people may think, he is not the next coming of our lord and savior.

His race to me matters none. I didn’t vote for him based on his policies, opinions and his record. Now that we have him I hope that he does what he said he would and proves to the world that he is capable of being a worthwhile president of the United States.

Personally I don’t see this happening. [/quote]

Well, we won’t be living in the promised land next week.

Nor next month.

Nor next year.

But I’m sure he will have a big impact over a longer period.

Imagine that McCain would have been in charge. That guy doesn’t have a clue about the economy. At least Obama has a plan.

And he’s off to a great start. He waved the Bush’s out, didn’t he? None of the other presidents waved out a bigger fool.

He can motivate people. I’m usually, and I know this is hard to believe, but I’m usually a pretty cynical guy. But this inauguration brought a tear to my eye.

He can motivate people, he can motivate other international politicians to work with him.

He probably can’t take credit for ending the fighting in the Gaza strip, but the Israeli wouldn’t have pulled out if McCain had been elected. (Perhaps they wouldn’t have gone in if McCain was elected either. They probably saw a window of opportunity closing on them.)

Either way, that gives him some credit in the Middle East already.

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[quote]Wreckless wrote:
TrainerinDC wrote:
The main issue for Obama, or anyone who would have taken the oath today is the level of the bar. America is in terrible shape, and this is a bigger job than nearly any president has had to face. Obama raised the bar higher, with his promises and the expectations of his supporters.

Contrary to what people may think, he is not the next coming of our lord and savior.

His race to me matters none. I didn’t vote for him based on his policies, opinions and his record. Now that we have him I hope that he does what he said he would and proves to the world that he is capable of being a worthwhile president of the United States.

Personally I don’t see this happening.

Well, we won’t be living in the promised land next week.

Nor next month.

Nor next year.

But I’m sure he will have a big impact over a longer period.

Imagine that McCain would have been in charge. That guy doesn’t have a clue about the economy. At least Obama has a plan.

And he’s off to a great start. He waved the Bush’s out, didn’t he? None of the other presidents waved out a bigger fool.

He can motivate people. I’m usually, and I know this is hard to believe, but I’m usually a pretty cynical guy. But this inauguration brought a tear to my eye.

He can motivate people, he can motivate other international politicians to work with him.

He probably can’t take credit for ending the fighting in the Gaza strip, but the Israeli wouldn’t have pulled out if McCain had been elected. (Perhaps they wouldn’t have gone in if McCain was elected either. They probably saw a window of opportunity closing on them.)

Either way, that gives him some credit in the Middle East already.[/quote]

Obama has a clue about economics? since when?

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[quote]entheogens wrote:
Excuse me, Black Greg’s post might be inappropriate but are you saying that it is flippant remarks by African-Americans that prevented Blacks from rising to positions of power, instead of a system that for the longest time wouldn’t allow blacks in many parts of the country to vote, beat them when they tried to register, etcetera, etcetera?

Don’t tell me, don’t tell me. Some of your BEST FRIENDS are black.
[/quote]

A. His post was edited, so it currently does not say what it did.

B. That was not my point. My point was many black people suffered to earn those rights and to have what they have now. His comments about republican buttfags pissed off about a “N-word” president does not reflect well on what those brave souls struggled for. This does not help peoples opinions. Without those opinions this could have happened a long time ago.

C. Seems to me like you’re looking for a fight. Where did I say anything racist at all? He did. I took offense.

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[quote]entheogens wrote:
TrainerinDC wrote:
Black Greg wrote:
ITT: Butthurt Republifags

You offend everything your ancestors struggled to earn. Guys like you are the reason things like this didn’t happen a long time ago.

TrainerinDC wrote:
Black Greg wrote:
ITT: Butthurt Republifags

You offend everything your ancestors struggled to earn. Guys like you are the reason things like this didn’t happen a long time ago.

Excuse me, Black Greg’s post might be inappropriate but are you saying that it is flippant remarks by African-Americans that prevented Blacks from rising to positions of power, instead of a system that for the longest time wouldn’t allow blacks in many parts of the country to vote, beat them when they tried to register, etcetera, etcetera?

Don’t tell me, don’t tell me. Some of your BEST FRIENDS are black.

[/quote]

Are you getting offended on behalf of black people on this thread?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Who the fuck thinks this? [/quote]

Unfortunately, many do. I have heard it said time and time again. Some people do see him in the same light as the next coming of Jesus. Some people believe he is the solution to all their problems. I have heard people tell me that he will solve all of our problems in this four year term. I’m not making this stuff up, I’m going by things that I have personally heard with my own ears.

[quote]
This moment in time is special and goes beyond Obama himself and speaks on our country’s history, both good and bad, that led us here.

Putting yourself above all others makes you a prime target. My goal is to simply takes notes because if years from now we look back and applaud his performance, I will only hope I can be that much of an example.[/quote]

Of course when you are the number 1, you have all the eyes, and talking heads, and scrutiny upon you. He has done a great job rising above it all thus far and being a good example. However I don’t believe in him, or his ability to do the things he says he will do. However, I’m going to hold any further decision until 1/20/2013 when we have our next inauguration and I can rate his performance as a whole.

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[quote]masonator wrote:
Professor X wrote:
masonator wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
But mostly I wish it would be over already so I wouldn’t have to hear about it anymore.

x2

Yes, because the first Black president is such a minor issue that we want it to end as quickly as possible.

I understand that Obama being black is different than the past and that some people find that important. I don’t. Obviously I’m white, but I truly don’t think it should matter what color our president is. To me, the only thing that matters is policy. I disagree with nearly all of Obama’s policy, and am quite disappointed that some people, completely ignorant of his proposed policies voted for him simply because of his race.

So yes, I am tired of hearing about it because it does nothing but make me LOSE hope for our country, since so many of it’s citizens are sheep.[/quote]

Bingo.

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[quote]Wreckless wrote:
I think the speech kicked off the new millenium.[/quote]

…and it should have been kicked off the television. Notice the small and polite applause, the audience being shocked that their Messiah couldn’t give a decent speech, one with an actual theme, instead of rambling bits the guy thought up while taking a hot bath or taking a shit.

Most important speech of the guy’s life, and he rambles around with a pieced together piece of crap like that!

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
TrainerinDC wrote:

Contrary to what people may think, he is not the next coming of our lord and savior.

Who the fuck thinks this? Even if you see some old woman crying because of the moment, that doesn’t mean she thinks Obama is the key to getting into heaven. The man is in the most public position in the world. Every moment of his life for the next few years will be scrutinized at a level few humans could even cope with and maintain their sanity. I simply wish the man luck and hope he is as good a man at his core as he comes across.

Does this mean anyone thinks he is infallible? Of fucking course not. However, he handles himself calmly in situations that would have many of us saying things we would regret. I respect that about him but don’t envy what he has to face ahead of him.

Nearly every talking head throwing negative remarks at the man would come across as much less prepared if they themselves had to face the world today and not stutter.

This moment in time is special and goes beyond Obama himself and speaks on our country’s history, both good and bad, that led us here.

Putting yourself above all others makes you a prime target. My goal is to simply takes notes because if years from now we look back and applaud his performance, I will only hope I can be that much of an example.[/quote]

Thanks, Prof…and I’m right with you.

The only expectations I have of President Obama are to a) work hard and b) do his best.

That’s it.

And I think that he will do them both.

Mufasa

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
tedro wrote:
EmilyQ wrote:
Exactly. Rosa Parks did her thing in 1955 and MLK gave his “I Have a Dream” speech in 1963. People posting on T-Nation (none of whom are ancient to the best of my knowledge) were alive then. Only a fool would deny that today is a momentous day. Seeing the elderly people in that crowd crying openly…how could anyone not be moved??

Because many of us have a hard time believing that the emotions would have been the same if it was a black conservative taking the Oath.

Maybe you’re right. Although as I recall Colin Powell generated quite a bit of excitement, too, didn’t he?

Obama’s very easy on the eye, which generates emotion as well. But does it really matter?
[/quote]

Colin Powell isn’t very conservative. It’s because he’s liberal that this is a big deal.If my brother in law was elected president,and believe it or not he’s more qualified than this guy, there wouldn’t be such a party.

He wouldn’t be considered "black"by various Al Sharpton types. IE,not black and liberal.

By the way,my brother in law has actual executive experience, is a USNA grad,was a top gun aviator, a history professor after he got his Harvard PhD,was then an admiral’s aid,then took an executive postion at Bell / Textron helicopter.

After that he was under secretary of Veteran’s affairs, (2nd in command of the VA),then took a job as a CFO in a major corporation.

But he’s not a liberal,so it wouldn’t be the same.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

Putting yourself above all others makes you a prime target. My goal is to simply takes notes because if years from now we look back and applaud his performance, I will only hope I can be that much of an example.[/quote]

That’s sad, in a cosmic kind of way.

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[quote]Wreckless wrote:
belligerent wrote:
Professor X wrote:
On a day described by many to be “historical”, it sure is quiet around here.

I guess there are some of us left who are not so utterly insane that we’re going to get behind a man who is leading a nation of blind idiots over the edge of cliff simply because he is black. Call me a foaming at the mouth racist if you want, but I’m not going over the cliff with you.

You didn’t seem to mind when he was white.

And oh yeah, you’re a foaming at the mouth racist.[/quote]

He’s one of the very few here who actually listened to the guy’s speech.

I’ve heard better speeches from vacuum cleaner salesmen.

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So the most powerful nation on earth is confronting its worst economic crisis under the leadership of its most extremely liberal politician, who has virtually no experience of federal politics. That is not an opportunity but a catastrophe.

It is crucial to recall the reality that lies behind Obama’s rhetoric. Denouncing “those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents” comes from a man whose flagship legislation, the Freedom of Choice Act, will impose abortion, including partial-birth abortion, on every state in the Union. The era of Hope is to be inaugurated with a slaughter of the innocents.

Obama’s American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan is like one of those toxic packages traded by bankers: it camouflages many unaffordable gifts to his client state. With a federal deficit already at $1.2 trillion, Obama wants to squander $825 billion (which will undoubtedly mushroom to more than $1 trillion) on creating 600,000 more government jobs and a further 459,000 in “green energy” (useless wind turbines and other Heath-Robinson contraptions favoured by Beltway environmentalists).

We should be long past applauding politicians of any hue: they got us into this mess.