[quote]forlife wrote:
Having a gay President with everyone talking about what the First Husband is going to wear at the inauguration would be cool ;)[/quote]
No, it wouldn’t. It would be just as boring as always.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Wait, was that the “funny” white supremacy joke?
MTV has to do with your constant moaning about skinny jeans, mtv, young people, skinny jeans, mtv, young people, skinny jeans… all connected in your posts across the boards.
And no, that wasn’t a funny white supremacy joke. It was your racist comment adapted to a “white” viewpoint.
I would have to google funny white supremacy jokes to know one.
Let it die old man. An american flag should be on the flag poles, people should dress how they want and the president, regardless of color, should lead the country based on the constitution. Nothing funny about it.
Skinny jeans aren’t the issue. Little clueless fuckers like you are…they just also happen to be part of the group who wears crap like that. They are the ones popping their colors and wearing neon polo shirts in stark contrast to how poorly illuminated their perspective of the world is.
Old man? Kid, I just hit my 30’s and have accomplished more than most of the people my age in the time I’ve been here. Can you say the same?
People like you cry about “political correctness” and then turn around and throw a tantrum because of “paint the white house black”…a phrase that has been in countless songs over the years and speaks on the fact that blacks considered that particular venue off limits for so long.
But people like you don’t get things like that. It has to be mapped out and explained because your concept of the world around you is about as in depth as Paris Hilton’s spiritual connection.
Yeah, I’m glad “old man” is what pops into your head if little boys like you are what you consider “normal”.[/quote]
People like me?
Who am I?
Please tell me. I think Beyonce is mediocre, I think it’s ok to have abs as long as they are on a strong body, I don’t like androgynous women and all of a sudden I’m a skinny jeans wearing, collar popping, MTV protege?
You make big assumptions.
I hate the politically correct movement. I also hate hypocrisy.
When have you ever seen me be politically correct, or even tactful?
For a guy who does bitch about race from time to time, you seem to be on a roll with your racist jokes.
Blacks have viewed themselves poorly the past few decades. Obama didn’t single handedly turn the tides of race in a matter of months.
Racism has been dead for a long time. This is the first time a black man has been in a qualified position to run for president effectively, more due to political games than race.
Maybe it is you blacks who have a poor understanding of the world around you. “Po pitiful me, I is black an’ the devil don’ like me. I guess I betta not try too hard, I ain’t goin’ get nowhere. I bes’ jus’ joining a gang and steal and sell drugs. A black man either gets dead or arrested no matta what he does.”
Maybe 50 years ago but not in yours or my lifetime. I’m glad Obama’s election wakes you up to the racial reality we have experienced the entire time either of us has been alive based on your age reference.
You are the jilted one homeboy. Now move forward.
And what is Paris Hilton’s spiritual connection?
Because I would bet she is not the image she sells to the public in real life. People do buy shit like her persona up and she is smart to capitalize off of it.
Please tell me who Paris Hilton and myself are. Because I know you know us both so well.
[quote]JamFly wrote:
So the most powerful nation on earth is confronting its worst economic crisis under the leadership of its most extremely liberal politician, who has virtually no experience of federal politics. That is not an opportunity but a catastrophe.
It is crucial to recall the reality that lies behind Obama’s rhetoric. Denouncing “those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents” comes from a man whose flagship legislation, the Freedom of Choice Act, will impose abortion, including partial-birth abortion, on every state in the Union. The era of Hope is to be inaugurated with a slaughter of the innocents.
Obama’s American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan is like one of those toxic packages traded by bankers: it camouflages many unaffordable gifts to his client state. With a federal deficit already at $1.2 trillion, Obama wants to squander $825 billion (which will undoubtedly mushroom to more than $1 trillion) on creating 600,000 more government jobs and a further 459,000 in “green energy” (useless wind turbines and other Heath-Robinson contraptions favoured by Beltway environmentalists).
We should be long past applauding politicians of any hue: they got us into this mess.
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This is supposed to be the Bend-Over-For-Barry thread and your mucking it up.
I would bet most posters here don’t know anything about Obama’s policies and didn’t even listen to his speech.
Can anyone think one line that drew thunderous applause? Had people standing on their seats and cheering?
Thought not.
It is a good day when America inaugurates its first black president.
It shows we have matured as a culture and a nation to overcome past ignorance. You listen to enough race-baiters, America is essentially irredeemably racist. Today proves that not to be true - we see, for the first time, a black man elected, only half a century or so after segregation.
To borrow from a writer today (I can’t remember who), you won’t see a person of color elected Prime Minister in the UK any time soon, nor will you see France elect a President from its ranks of North African immigrants or their children. It is a day to reognize the accomplishment.
It also helps up open a few fresh debates on race issues that have been tabled at the urging of the grievance industry. This will be good for policy and good for our nation. Now, at least, we can have the right conversation about it, and the race-hustlers will have to find a new line of work and won’t distract from the debate like they used to.
Of course, this sets much of the politics aside. An ascendant Russia doesn’t give a damn that Obama is black, nor does a teetering, unstable economy. After the sugar high of the inauguration fades, the business at hand has little to do with race.
But today, America should be proud of itself for the fact that it can elect a black man to the Presidency.
[quote]forlife wrote:
I like Obama, but the thing I’m most excited about is getting rid of Bush once and for all.
This is a historic day, very cool that I lived to see a black man become President of the U.S.[/quote]
Sad that I have to explain to my daughter that anyone gives a shit that he’s a black man.
mike
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Professor X wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
I think it’s as significant as any other presidency.
I think that much is clear…along with how wrong you are.
Making a statement for civil rights is good, and I think it’s about time, grant it I wish it’d have been more of an Allan Keys. I just don’t think it’s necessary to throw 110 million dollars of tax payer money at celebrating racial justice.[/quote]
Or better yet, Walter Williams.
mike
[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Just watching him speak, there have been few previous presidents who can give speeches like this over the last couple of decades.
He does have a silver tongue. I just can’t decide if that’s a good thing for a politician to posses.
This is the only part that I wanted to hear with my own ears:
“I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
Emphasis mine.
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Yut.
mike
[quote]FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
I just hope we can bury the race hatchet as a population in general.
Of course you still have racism on both sides (mostly in the older generations) but obviously not enough to affect our society in any real way.
I think a lot of people, myself included, realize that racism is a dead horse.
I was born in the early 80’s and most of my easily recalled memories come from the 90’s. I remember going to school with various races and it was no big deal.
We all sat in the same classrooms, drank from the same water fountains, played tag, football and monkey bars together on the playground etc etc.
Two of my closest friends, PJ and Kyle were black. I met PJ in elementary school. We were assigned partners on a 3rd grade science project growing bean plants. Ours was the tallest. We snuck more than the allowed amount of fertilizer for it every day. We stayed friends until he went off the deep end with hard drugs in high school.
Last I heard he was high on something and tried to stab his dad for kicking him out of the house. He was given the ultimatum of joining the army or going to jail by his dad. He joined the army and was kicked out. I don’t know where he is now.
Kyle and I are still friends. He graduated from SMU with a finance degree and we meet up a few times a year. He has a posh job in Dallas now.
I dated an Asian from Singapore from sophomore through senior year. She went to UCLA and I stayed in Texas for college.
The majority of my friends are white but there are indians, an egyptian, more asians etc etc and it isn’t an issue.
For me and I would wager most of my generation (and I live in the South), racism is something forced on us through people like jesse jackson and the old fogies telling what are now ghost stories.
The notion doesn’t exist until it is taught, even if the attempt is to teach it in a negative light.
Let sleeping dogs lie. We have a black man in the most powerful position in the country and world. He was voted in. The white majority obviously contributed. Had whites at large voted against him, he would not be in office.
The “change” happened over a period of decades. Obama merely symbolizes the change in attitude and belief. Put the nail in the racist coffin and let it die.
I just hope he is a good leader, skin color aside. I do tend to vote conservative because I feel more in tune with the conservative platform and I did vote McCain, but it had nothing to do with race.
But good luck to Obama. I really do hope he can aid the economic recovery dumped in Bush’s lap, as it is now in his own lap, with out turning us socialist.
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wow. not a bad post, i am pleasantly surprised.
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
It is a good day when America inaugurates its first black president.
It shows we have matured as a culture and a nation to overcome past ignorance. You listen to enough race-baiters, America is essentially irredeemably racist. Today proves that not to be true - we see, for the first time, a black man elected, only half a century or so after segregation.
To borrow from a writer today (I can’t remember who), you won’t see a person of color elected Prime Minister in the UK any time soon, nor will you see France elect a President from its ranks of North African immigrants or their children. It is a day to reognize the accomplishment.
It also helps up open a few fresh debates on race issues that have been tabled at the urging of the grievance industry. This will be good for policy and good for our nation. Now, at least, we can have the right conversation about it, and the race-hustlers will have to find a new line of work and won’t distract from the debate like they used to.
Of course, this sets much of the politics aside. An ascendant Russia doesn’t give a damn that Obama is black, nor does a teetering, unstable economy. After the sugar high of the inauguration fades, the business at hand has little to do with race.
But today, America should be proud of itself for the fact that it can elect a black man to the Presidency.
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Well said.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
So having recognized the momentousness of the day as the first “black president” I agree with those who say the worship needs to end. He is not a king. Not a messiah. He is a servant, an employee, of the people as EVERY other president before him was. He is not here to “rule”. He is here to govern and to protect and uphold the Constitution.
Which brings me to my next point. I dislike the “coronation” aspect to inaugurations that I have seen in my lifetime. I’m not picking on Obama’s inauguration in particular; I’ve seen it in several previous inaugurations including both Bushs’. I think we need to return to more of a signing in of a citizen President and away from anointing a king.[/quote]
Agree 100%. I missed the speech live, huge hangover, but when I flipped on the TV as Obama was leaving one of the commentators said something about the “sacred” office of the presidency. Nothing sacred about it at all, in fact it’s blasphemous to say that. The president is just a politician elected to run the executive branch of the federal government for four years. That’s it. We need to get back to thinking that way.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Putting yourself above all others makes you a prime target. My goal is to simply takes notes because if years from now we look back and applaud his performance, I will only hope I can be that much of an example.
That’s sad, in a cosmic kind of way.
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What’s sad is the utter lack of any responses to your unusually energetic trolling efforts today.
If you vote for or against a presidential candidate because of their race, this is a racist action. If you vote for their policy then you are an informed voter. Racism isn’t dead because this still has to be explained to people. This country is much better than it used to be, but we still have a long way to go.
[quote]Mikeyali wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
Professor X wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
I think it’s as significant as any other presidency.
I think that much is clear…along with how wrong you are.
Making a statement for civil rights is good, and I think it’s about time, grant it I wish it’d have been more of an Allan Keys. I just don’t think it’s necessary to throw 110 million dollars of tax payer money at celebrating racial justice.
Or better yet, Walter Williams.
mike[/quote]
Indeed, or Thomas Sowell. Here’s what Walter has to say about the race relations, this election, and the ‘plight’ of black America.
“But as I have argued, most of (black America’s) problems have little or nothing to do with racial discrimination. That’s not to say that every vestige of racial discrimination has been eliminated but as my colleague Dr. John McWhorter said in “End of Racism?” Forbes (11/5/08), “There are also rust and mosquitoes, and there always will be. Life goes on.” The fact that the nation elected a black president hopefully might turn our attention away from the false notion that discrimination explains the problems of a large segment of the black community to the real problems that have absolutely nothing to do with discrimination.”
[quote]pushharder wrote:
That “sacredness” deal can almost be perceived as scary. The executive branch has way too much power and it didn’t get it from the Constitution.
The reason I say “scary” is it hearkens me back to the “divine right of kings”. It greases the skids for people to accept a “ruler”. [/quote]
I agree with you here 100%. From my recollection of our government and its original set up, we were never supposed to have a “ruler” merely an elected leader, with checks and balances to limit any one groups power.
[quote]beebuddy wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Putting yourself above all others makes you a prime target. My goal is to simply takes notes because if years from now we look back and applaud his performance, I will only hope I can be that much of an example.
That’s sad, in a cosmic kind of way.
What’s sad is the utter lack of any responses to your unusually energetic trolling efforts today.
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You noticed that too, huh.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
JamFly wrote:
So the most powerful nation on earth is confronting its worst economic crisis under the leadership of its most extremely liberal politician, who has virtually no experience of federal politics. That is not an opportunity but a catastrophe.
It is crucial to recall the reality that lies behind Obama’s rhetoric. Denouncing “those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents” comes from a man whose flagship legislation, the Freedom of Choice Act, will impose abortion, including partial-birth abortion, on every state in the Union. The era of Hope is to be inaugurated with a slaughter of the innocents.
Obama’s American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan is like one of those toxic packages traded by bankers: it camouflages many unaffordable gifts to his client state. With a federal deficit already at $1.2 trillion, Obama wants to squander $825 billion (which will undoubtedly mushroom to more than $1 trillion) on creating 600,000 more government jobs and a further 459,000 in “green energy” (useless wind turbines and other Heath-Robinson contraptions favoured by Beltway environmentalists).
We should be long past applauding politicians of any hue: they got us into this mess.
This is supposed to be the Bend-Over-For-Barry thread and your mucking it up.
I would bet most posters here don’t know anything about Obama’s policies and didn’t even listen to his speech.
Can anyone think one line that drew thunderous applause? Had people standing on their seats and cheering?
Thought not.
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It’s symptomatic of the Obama hysteria… people are so caught up in the moment, the soundbites, the buzz… what about reality?
[quote]FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
And what is Paris Hilton’s spiritual connection?
Because I would bet she is not the image she sells to the public in real life. People do buy shit like her persona up and she is smart to capitalize off of it.
Please tell me who Paris Hilton and myself are. Because I know you know us both so well.
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LOL
“But it’s not who you are underneath, it’s what you do that defines you.” -Rachel Dawes
bam! that line single-handedly made Batman Begins one of my all-time favorite movies. Words to live by.
Only one other politician has ever made me cry. I never bought into the Obama hype; the U.S. and the world are in much more trouble than most people will admit, but this truly was a historic day. I even feel a little bit a hope for the first time since I can remember.
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
It is a good day when America inaugurates its first black president.
It shows we have matured as a culture and a nation to overcome past ignorance. You listen to enough race-baiters, America is essentially irredeemably racist. Today proves that not to be true - we see, for the first time, a black man elected, only half a century or so after segregation.
To borrow from a writer today (I can’t remember who), you won’t see a person of color elected Prime Minister in the UK any time soon, nor will you see France elect a President from its ranks of North African immigrants or their children. It is a day to reognize the accomplishment.
It also helps up open a few fresh debates on race issues that have been tabled at the urging of the grievance industry. This will be good for policy and good for our nation. Now, at least, we can have the right conversation about it, and the race-hustlers will have to find a new line of work and won’t distract from the debate like they used to.
Of course, this sets much of the politics aside. An ascendant Russia doesn’t give a damn that Obama is black, nor does a teetering, unstable economy. After the sugar high of the inauguration fades, the business at hand has little to do with race.
But today, America should be proud of itself for the fact that it can elect a black man to the Presidency.
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This is the first time I can remember reading anything in this forum you’ve said that I do not enthusiastically agree with.
I could not possibly disagree more with just about every syllable of this post.
The “grievance industry” now has a federal marketing arm in the executive branch to go along with it’s long standing chapters in the legislative.
Far from illustrating our maturity it portends just how little time we have left as the greatest nation on Earth.
I don’t have to tell you I couldn’t care less what color he is or isn’t. He is an ideological affront to everything that made this country great.
This is one of the most tragic days in this nations history, certainly in my lifetime.
I’ve been sick to my stomach all day.