The Impeachment Hearings

Does Nunes have a job waiting for him at “FOX” when he leaves Congress?

I don’t think most reasonable people are expecting them to remove trump even if the proof was concrete.

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He already has a job there.

It began a facetious tongue-in-cheek joke that Putin used to mock the Muller investigation. “It wasn’t us, it was the Ukrainians”, said with a wry smile.

Seeing that the Cult of Trump believed literally everything Russian propaganda would say, they took their mocking joke, added some semi-plausible details and started preparing documents for Solomon, Hannity and co.

This relates to the second thing I want to communicate. Based on questions and statements I have heard, some of you on this committee appear to believe that Russia and its security services did not conduct a campaign against our country—and that perhaps, somehow, for some reason, Ukraine did. This is a fictional narrative that has been perpetrated and propagated by the Russian security services themselves.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/471448-read-fiona-hill-opening-statement

Trump didn’t want an investigation, he wanted a public statement of CNN. Guilani and his made it clear to Yarmak and the rest of Zelenskyy’s team that they didn’t give a shit about investigations and only wanted public statements mentioning specific phrases like “Burisma”, “Biden” and “Clintons”.

So that it can be played endlessly on a loop on Fox and in conservative circles. Basically, a 2020 version of “lock her hup” , “Seth Rich” and “but her e-mails”

Even with this impeachment, Republicans will be chanting “Burisma” at Trump campaign rallies in the summer of 2020…

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To act like that’s actually possible given the current breakdown of Congress is kinda silly imo.

You have to worry about beating a real republican. Beating a crippled Trump should theoretically be easier now that he has political dirt on his face. Especially considering he couldn’t pull anywhere near a majority last time.

Plus they need the optics of DEFEATING Trump’s entire platform at the polling station to really make it all stick.

Nah that was just for Paul Ryan. But he had to tank the tax rate to earn it

No, it isn’t - and we know this because the ask was for a public announcement of the investigations, not for investigations.

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I never shot anybody as a policeman. You still mad ?Apology accepted, cocksucker. In fact, I’ve saved many minority lives. Have you ? Or are you just content being a non contributing douche on an internet forum ? You self loathers are truly a pathetic bunch.

Interesting:

More than one GOP Congressman has talked to witnesses about “being on the wrong side of history”.

I agree…and many of them better be careful about defending Trump.

It’s going to come back to bite them in the ass.

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Ahh, so you were a desk jockey. Is your last name Farva by any chance?

That’s not what the testimony indicates:
’ I then heard President Trump ask, ‘So, he’s gonna do the investigation?’ Ambassador Sondland replied that ‘he’s gonna do it,’ adding that President Zelensky will do ‘anything you ask him to,'” Holmes continued.

Anyone noticed that the Republicans are afraid to ask dr. Hill questions instead focusing on one-man performances for clips for conservative Twitter?

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Can you blame them? They have to be shitting all over the walls these past few days.

Imagine being a lifer Republican who now has to defend Trump at all costs for the sake of the party. What would you do?

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GOLDMAN: Giuliani and President Trump didn’t actually care if they did them, right?

SONDLAND: I never heard, Mr. Goldman, anyone say that the investigations had to start or be completed. The only thing I heard from Mr. Giuliani or otherwise was that they had to be announced. … President Trump presumably, communicated through Mr. Giuliani, wanted the Ukrainians on-record publicly that they were going to do those investigations.

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Presumably. There’s a whole lot of that in this whole thing. Trump’s own words, though, are about actually doing the investigation rather than just announcing it.

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Oh I know. Just wanted you to know the goal being the announcement of investigations is EXACTLY what the testimony indicates. It was stated explicitly

Are you looking for a smoking gun? 100% positive, gotchya evidence? Putting aside whether it can be proved, if you had to bet one side or the other, which sides story is closer to what actually happened?

What level of proof do you think there should be here? Commensurate with a civil trial? A criminal trial?

Occam’s razor says the story in which you have to assume the least is more likely to be correct. In that case, Trump looks pretty guilty.

Weak. Need I remind you you’re irrelevant ? You’d get your lunch eaten in Stl pee wee. You tried though.

I don’t know what these type of posts do other than waste space.

Why not use arguments to support your position? Ad hominem attacks really do nothing to convince others that you are right. If anything I tend to think those attacking others are usually wrong, and are attacking as their last resort.

Just my two cents.

Only thing that’s weak is you, Farva. Now go order a goddamn liter o’ cola and reminisce about the days when you did actually contribute to society.

Thoughts on why Trump has turned so many trusted friends and advisors into enemies?