You have got to listen to Coast to Coast am. They talk about this all the time.
One, or two guys have said the Illuminati are actually reptiles from another dimension who control others through mind control. The freemason rituals, and the rituals of other groups are supposed to stimulate the minds of the people who have specific reptile like DNA that causes them to succumb to the will of these reptiles.
JFK was supposed to have started exerting his own will and that is why he was killed.
Maybe I should mention I don’t believe any of this.
I have not doubt there are secret societies, but I don’t believe any really have power, but this is because I could start a secret society myself. Then again I do belong to a secret society (of magicians) and we can keep secrets.[/quote]
and then you get stuff like this which totally throws off people from reality. people take things too far sometimes, that’s the feableness of the human mind. laters pk
[quote]pkradgreek wrote:
the polygraph is a fallable test. it is based on electro response in the body based on a base level. it is pathetic that they still use it. you can fail a polygraph even if you are telling the truth and you can pass it if you are telling lies, you just need to know how to control yourself. The common criminal or person will easily fail under the circumstances that they put you in. It phychological bullshit. laters pk[/quote]
First, the polygraph is not a test, it’s a machine. Second, it is not only “electro response” (I presume you mean the galvanic skin response), it also monitors changes in breathing frequency and amplitude, changes in heart rate, and changes in blood pressure. Thirdly, it’s not psychological bullshit, it is science.
While I mentioned the CQT (the most common test used by north american plice departments) has a hit rate that is near chance (~45-55% for innocent, I think), it’s because the assumptions it is based on are faulty. If you take the guilty knowledge test (GKT; used almost exclusively in Israel), you see hit rates of +90% for innocent and ~65% for guilty. And the only reason the innocent hit rates are so low is because of poor test designs; a well designed GKT with 10 questions will have a false-positive rate of ~1 in 1,000,000. With the GKT, you can also perform statistical analysis, and easily detect if the suspect is trying to beat the test. You can also just monitor brain waves, and use the P300 instead of the polygraph, but that’s neither here nor there.
Before you call it psychological bullshit, consider that it is psychologists that are fighting to stop usage of the CQT by demonstrating that the accuracy rates police journals publsih are way off. This ties in to the current thread, since the hit rates are overestimated due to feedback only being given for hits, and almost never for misses.
[quote]sam747 wrote:
I had a summer internship w/ The Illuminati back when I was in college. No big whoop, they like to think of themselves as more important than they really are. They are also quite a bit behind The Tri-Lateral Commission in terms of industry leaders as far as secret societies go. Still, I will say that getting to work on a coup in a small African country was pretty interesting for a 20 year old college kid. [/quote]
pkradgreek: Do you even know what you are talking about? You make wild statements about conspiracies being “smack in your face”, but you offer no proof whatsoever that these conspiracies exist, just the lunatic ravings of everything being “smack in your face”. If you have first hand knowledge of masonic rituals, then tell us all, if not be quiet. You have not offered anything tangible to this conversation. You tell me to “read the damned book written by one of their leaders”. Which book? What leaders? Do you even know what you are talking about? We want specific proof, not blanket statements about “obvious” conspiracies that are “smack in your face”. By the way, in regards to my post about satanic messages in music, you may get A+ in classes about fairy tales but you have no grasp of the concept of sarcasm. Laters MM
[quote]mike marcon wrote:
Satan at the high level (not the the level of most Satan worshippers)really works sad to say. I will comment no further as it will do no good for me to do so.
cccp (Brandon): What do you mean with this statement? Do you have first hand knowledge of Satanism? If so, I seriously would like to hear about it. That is not a flame, I really mean it (thats not the type of thing that comes up in every day conversation). Or are you refering to the Church of Satan or the Temple of Set where Satan/Set is really a symbol for the idea that everyone can be their own god and create their own destiny? I know that you said “I will comment no further”, but really, how does that validate your point? I am down for a serious discussion of ideas.[/quote]
********* Many details are involved Suffice it to say that the typical “Satan” worshiper has no idea how Satan works. At the low level Satanists go thru all kinds of rituals that are pure bullshit! At the high level they do what the Devil spirits are allowed to do on this earth and that is appear as ectoplasmic form, posses people, and certain persons become “seed of the serpent” which is a form of “born again” spritually for them except it’s on the opposite side. This “born again” is of the mind only from what i understand and not thru and thru “inner” man like when a Christian gets born again.They run the world generally thru the “systems” of this world. One world goverment so that people can be controlled is the tip of the iceberg and the “Illuminati” is only part of it.
Brandon Green
That’s crazier than believing in the Illuminati. HA HA HA HA !!!
[quote]cccp21 wrote:
mike marcon wrote:
Satan at the high level (not the the level of most Satan worshippers)really works sad to say. I will comment no further as it will do no good for me to do so.
cccp (Brandon): What do you mean with this statement? Do you have first hand knowledge of Satanism? If so, I seriously would like to hear about it. That is not a flame, I really mean it (thats not the type of thing that comes up in every day conversation). Or are you refering to the Church of Satan or the Temple of Set where Satan/Set is really a symbol for the idea that everyone can be their own god and create their own destiny? I know that you said “I will comment no further”, but really, how does that validate your point? I am down for a serious discussion of ideas.
********* Many details are involved Suffice it to say that the typical “Satan” worshiper has no idea how Satan works. At the low level Satanists go thru all kinds of rituals that are pure bullshit! At the high level they do what the Devil spirits are allowed to do on this earth and that is appear as ectoplasmic form, posses people, and certain persons become “seed of the serpent” which is a form of “born again” spritually for them except it’s on the opposite side. This “born again” is of the mind only from what i understand and not thru and thru “inner” man like when a Christian gets born again.They run the world generally thru the “systems” of this world. One world goverment so that people can be controlled is the tip of the iceberg and the “Illuminati” is only part of it.
Brandon Green
[quote]doogie wrote:
That’s crazier than believing in the Illuminati. HA HA HA HA !!!
cccp21 wrote:
mike marcon wrote:
Satan at the high level (not the the level of most Satan worshippers)really works sad to say. I will comment no further as it will do no good for me to do so.
cccp (Brandon): What do you mean with this statement? Do you have first hand knowledge of Satanism? If so, I seriously would like to hear about it. That is not a flame, I really mean it (thats not the type of thing that comes up in every day conversation). Or are you refering to the Church of Satan or the Temple of Set where Satan/Set is really a symbol for the idea that everyone can be their own god and create their own destiny? I know that you said “I will comment no further”, but really, how does that validate your point? I am down for a serious discussion of ideas.
********* Many details are involved Suffice it to say that the typical “Satan” worshiper has no idea how Satan works. At the low level Satanists go thru all kinds of rituals that are pure bullshit! At the high level they do what the Devil spirits are allowed to do on this earth and that is appear as ectoplasmic form, posses people, and certain persons become “seed of the serpent” which is a form of “born again” spritually for them except it’s on the opposite side. This “born again” is of the mind only from what i understand and not thru and thru “inner” man like when a Christian gets born again.They run the world generally thru the “systems” of this world. One world goverment so that people can be controlled is the tip of the iceberg and the “Illuminati” is only part of it.
Brandon Green
************* Like i said i don’t like to reply with all the details because everyone’s interpetation of the bible,the evil spirit realm and secret organizations and who or whom Satan is is or might be are different. People without evidence to back themselves up just say crap like “That’s crazy”! So i don’t reply. Believe what you want.
Brandon Green
This is the most amusing thing I have read in a long time. I haven’t had a discussion with anyone in my life that covered the Illuminati, the left-hand path, and the one world order in such a haphazard manner.
Not to hijak the thread…eh what the hell…in regards to satanism…is it simply a viable option to the so called “right hand path?” As in pick A or B? Or is it evil in the eyes of the most here?
I mean you need the dark to have the light. So don’t Satanists kind of serve a purpose? not everyone can be wonderful loving people who go around sacrificing themselves for others. Somebody has to be around to be “saved.”
Interested to hear the opinions on this. Is the other side of the coin bad or simply different?
[quote]cap’nsalty wrote:
Keep this thread going, it gets weirder and weirder as it goes on.
BTW, Elvis is still alive, abducted by aliens. True story.[/quote]
All right…I’m callin bs on this one. I know for a fact that Elvis is chillin with the unknown civilization of the Yeti. The aliens didn’t abduct him, they just gave him a ride!
Seriously though, I remember going to a friends house when he playing some D&D. There was a guy there in a cloak to lend realism to his “mage personality”. Well, it turns out that the cloak and the personality were not for show and they did not stop that night. I saw him two days later in a bookstore still in the cape, and he still thought he had some sort of magical powers. Why did I bring this up? I figured the complete wack-job community couldn’t be too big so I was wondering if some of the previous posters had met with him to play magician?
Holifila…I have heard of people like that. Here, in the Tampa area there was a vampire cult that started out as part of a an offshoot of drama club that liked the whole vampire aesthetic. Turned out that a lot of them started to think that they really were vampires with all the special vampire powers.
but would anyone care to comment on my original post?
And I don’t think that harmless speculation has anything to do with pink shirts, soy-eaters, or NAMBLA.
[quote]doogie wrote:
If you have the evidence, lay it out.[/quote]
**************** There’s so much that i don’t have time for it and gets into details about how the bible is interpeted(greek,aramaic and literature that was written at the time for the meaning of various words and phrases) and this is not a religous web site anyway. Plus i don’t want to bother offending anyone and their ignorant belief systems(my opinion). The Illumnati is in my opinion(to the best of my knowledge)as secret and clandestine as can be maintained. I believe that secret organizations don’t last long or can maintain secrecy knowing the nature of people. The one world government thing is as old as mankind and has been a dream of Satan and whomever he can work with or in as far as back as antiquity. In a nutshell Satan is real(at the high level anyway) and is not to be messed with and has real power but the people involved often pay a terrible price for it either in this life or the one to come!
Brandon Green
p.s- I hated Elvis!
And I don’t think that harmless speculation has anything to do with pink shirts, soy-eaters, or NAMBLA.[/quote]
Don’t you see? That’s what they want you to think.
Of course, I’m a semi-governmental/corporation-conspiracist type person. I’ve always wondered if there was a connection between certain major market decisions and conflicts in third world countries.
I just found this thread, and I MUST say that it is quite the entertainment. We have a couple of schizophrenics who post here… that’s pretty damn cool.
Shame on some of you for taking comedic advantage of the mentally ill.
Well, I guess I want to thank the serious posters on this thread. Remember: just because you have a fractured concept of reality and people shake their heads in amazement whenever you open your mouth, it doesn’t mean you can’t make a useful contribution to society.
Notice how the people who believe in these theories tend to be the same ones who believe that ‘4th-dimentional malevolent aliens’ (sic.) exist, that satan is real, that US military vaccines are actually designed to kill their soldiers, that anyone who thinks they are full of shit must be a programmed slave of the New World Order, that this supposed New world would allow the 150,000,000 sites exposing its ‘secrets’ to exist…
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
Notice how the people who believe in these theories tend to be the same ones who believe that ‘4th-dimentional malevolent aliens’ (sic.) exist, that satan is real, that US military vaccines are actually designed to kill their soldiers, that anyone who thinks they are full of shit must be a programmed slave of the New World Order, that this supposed New world would allow the 150,000,000 sites exposing its ‘secrets’ to exist…
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
*****Abuse the privilege? such as yourself right? There are no conspiracies right? Never have been i guess. No evidence of any power outside the five senses and/or this planet. You know it all please forgive me.
Brandon Green
